[1327.46] <sikraiken> bsidwell: I don't really think you "1cc"ed a game if you only do the first loop
[1327.56] <sikraiken> DDP is alright I guess since it can actually end after the first loop
[1328.06] <Twiddle-0> whereas in OF the secrets are easy to guess (segmented enemies worth much more by bombing, enemies that give you free reign to point blank them in periods, etc)
[1328.19] <sikraiken> otherwise, 1ccing the first loop, I compare that to saying I 1cced the first three levels
[1328.21] <Twiddle-0> really? i count that as more of a failure than anything
[1328.32] <sikraiken> hush
[1328.33] <Twiddle-0> like in RFJ, you don't loop if you get the worst/creditfeeder path
[1328.58] <bsidwell> That's probably too extreme a view for a lot of people.
[1329.12] <bsidwell> Since 1CCing a 2-loop game is fucking hard.
[1329.39] <Twiddle-0> that's why I differentiate between 1CC and ALL, even though the latter is more or less a subset
[1329.52] <Twiddle-0> ALL = all available loops completed
[1330.12] <Twiddle-0> 1CC = loop completed
[1330.28] <Twiddle-0> with that logic you can't really 1cc infinitely looping games
[1330.55] <sikraiken> you can't
[1331.12] <sikraiken> you cannot 1CC galaga. you cannot 1CC raiden.
[1331.20] <sikraiken> they do not have an end
[1331.24] <Twiddle-0> you can 10m raiden and you can counter roll galaga
[1331.37] <sikraiken> that's not clearing a game
[1331.42] <sikraiken> you can keep going
[1331.48] <sikraiken> 1 CREDIT CLEAR
[1331.54] <sikraiken> not 1 HEY I ROLLED THE COUNTER
[1332.09] <Twiddle-0> you can however 1cc the PSX port of raiden dx since it doesn't loop unless you do training course
[1332.32] <Dandy_J> 1HIRTC
[1332.59] <sikraiken> Twiddle-0: yeah, that's 1cc then
[1333.16] <bsidwell> 1CCS?
[1333.22] <Dandy_J> but does the psx version take credits?
[1333.27] <Twiddle-0> it's free play
[1333.33] <Dandy_J> how can it be a 1CC if theres no credit
[1333.39] <Twiddle-0> oh i c
[1333.48] <Twiddle-0> yeah, how can you 1cc it doesn't take quarters
[1333.54] <Dandy_J> cleary you guys have more thinking to do
[1334.22] * sikraiken changes topic to 'Welcome to #shmups . No one has a brain here!'
[1334.56] <Twiddle-0> while we're on that
[1335.02] <Twiddle-0> how can you 1cc anything in MAME
[1335.07] <Twiddle-0> it's not like you're paying any credit
[1335.26] <sikraiken> you insert a credit
[1335.27] <Dandy_J> well youd have to get the coin machine thing
[1335.33] <Twiddle-0> oh yeah
[1335.40] <Twiddle-0> but most people don't use that
[1335.53] <Twiddle-0> pressing 5 != inserting a credit
[1336.03] <Dandy_J> 15KC
[1336.07] <Dandy_J> one 5 key clear
[1336.10] <Twiddle-0> ya
[1336.28] <Twiddle-0> let's call them 1 5 key clears now
[1336.39] <bsidwell> It's the Select button for me.
[1336.45] <Dandy_J> i know i would if i could 15KC anything!
[1336.45] <Twiddle-0> 1SBC
[1336.51] <Twiddle-0> one select button clear
[1336.53] <Dandy_J> oh it is for me too!
[1337.22] <sikraiken> sounds good
[1337.36] * Twiddle-0 changes topic to '#shmups - a long list of one 5 key clears'
[1338.27] <Twiddle-0> i totally one 5 key cleared this line
[1338.45] <Twiddle-0> 55555 5 key fed this line
[1338.52] <Dandy_J> lmao
[1338.56] <Dandy_J> 5 key feeders
[1340.31] <Twiddle-0> we should kickban everyone who uses more than 5 key in their irc line
[1340.36] <Twiddle-0> one 5 key
