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 Post subject: Re: Go see The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:01 pm 


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I just merged in the posts above (starting here) from another King of Kong thread that was starting to feel pretty similar (and it was getting pretty interesting - best to have it all in one place. You all know I'm completely new to modding here. I've followed protocol, but I'll also be checking with my fellow mods that I got this correct.

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So you shouldn't see this as a reliable documentary.


Good point. It does seem to demonise Mitchell. It's clearly a biased documentary, but that in itself is a reasonable model to follow for a documentary maker. But it would be good to see an entirely neutral, observational version of this story.

My wife's done a bit of documentary work, and while she loved KoK, to her it was immediately obvious the editing was implemented to present things out of context.

Argueably though, perhaps Mitchell made the accusations of fed lines only in responce to seeing how he came across. I guess we'll never know.

If nothing else, it's a great bit of entertainment, and if it captures anything accurately and without bias, it's the character, colour and enthusiasm that exists in such abundence in the arcade scene.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:29 pm 


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On the topic of video game documentaries, is there a good street fighter film? Certainly with all the tourneys going on right now, if there isn't a documentary there should be one soon.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:49 pm 


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There's one on Justin Wong, called King of Chinatown. Dunno if there's a way to see the whole thing yet, or if it's any good.

Also, http://igotnextmovie.com/


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:21 pm 


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some trailer clips of bang the machine which looks awesome. i've never seen it because it's never been officially released due to problems with the music rights, but watching these clips of america's SF scene from 10 years ago just looks gold. alec told me there's one guy in it who's a rapper & he says at one point "i'll school you in the arcade, and then i'll school you on the beat" :lol: if you're into SF they sometimes air the whole thing at the Evo championships in vegas
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:56 pm 


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Some interesting links.

I Got Next and Bang The Machine in particular look like they might be very interesting arcade documentaries.

Thanks guys (and good to see you're around a bit more again jpj.)
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My wife's done a bit of documentary work, and while she loved KoK, to her it was immediately obvious the editing was implemented to present things out of context.

I am so immature.
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:lol: (Fnarr fnarr, chortle chortle etc.)

I can't believe I didn't spot that! Maybe I'm just such a natural at gross innuendo I don't even have to think about it.

Points go to you though Taylor - it's rare anybody beats Gaijin Punch to spotting a nob gag!
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This movie is awesome. It may be biased in some ways and what not, but it had a really satisfying ending. Also reinforced why I love the games I love and how much effort and practice they take to succeed at.

Fuck modern gaming for destroying awesomeness.


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There's one on Justin Wong, called King of Chinatown.

The King of Chinatown trailer shows you just how big the Fighting game scene is and how niche & tiny the shoot'em up scene is.
I met Justin Wong when he came over to the BOD Comp a couple of Summer's ago. Gave him a lift back to his Hotel. The guy is a FIEND for the women :shock: ! A but surprising but there ya go. Triforce also came over with his Glove. Daigo also came over before that for the comp at London's Trocadero arcade.

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This movie is awesome. It may be biased in some ways and what not, but it had a really satisfying ending. Also reinforced why I love the games I love and how much effort and practice they take to succeed at.

I don't think its awesome in any way. Its a pretty good doc about the TG Fraternity.
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Taylor wrote:
spadgy wrote:
My wife's done a bit of documentary work, and while she loved KoK, to her it was immediately obvious the editing was implemented to present things out of context.

I am so immature.


LOL! :lol:

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The guy is a FIEND for the women :shock: ! A but surprising but there ya go. Triforce also came over with his Glove. Daigo also came over before that for the comp at London's Trocadero arcade.


I have heard this before several times, although I didn't notice anything particular on the day (at BOD). He seemed a little happy to have so much attention (in that peeps from the UK fighting scene actually knew who he was) but I didn't see him leching out.
Care to share what happened on your hotel journey mate, was he calling to gals off the sidewalk with the window rolled down? :)

Also, are we going to see you for Christmas DEL?
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Care to share what happened on your hotel journey mate, was he calling to gals off the sidewalk with the window rolled down?

Also, are we going to see you for Christmas DEL?

Ah yes, you were at BOD also 8)
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Ha ha, bet they didn't know what had hit them. The full gaming masculinity of Justin Wong!

Hope to see you in the new year then mate, I'll make a beeline for Casino when you're down. :wink:
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Seems like they're gonna need to revise the ending a bit, kekeke


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Todd's #1 high score for Fathom: 1,110,500

How scoring works in Fathom: It's a bit like how life works in Gauntlet. It counts down, and picking up one thingy gives 10 points. Run out of points, game over. Complete the game, and you have a score. Picking up the hundreds of thousands of thingies it would take to get that score while combating the point entropy would take months.

#2 score for Fathom: 142

There were dozens of other ones more impossible than that.

Why was scrutiny of his Dragster score, of all things, the thing to finally bring him down?

It's also really sad he's still professing his innocence. This takes compulsive lying to the max - how desperate is this guy for attention and affection?


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i hope mr awesome can find a way to prove the missile command score was fake too .. he seemed pretty sure of it

i thought it was a billy mitchell score but turns out it was a guy called temple
watching videos it seems to be a dispute over trackball size on 2 different types of cabinets
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Anyone want to recap what happened?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vuVYo4TXns
http://donkeykongforum.com/index.php?topic=2055
https://twitter.com/wescopeland_/status ... 3457894400

Edit: Replaced the Toddzilla video with a better one.


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For the record, the Donkey Kong RNG is entirely based on vacant cycles after each frame, so even the slightest variation in input can affect events drastically, and it would be very easy to reload a savestate until you get the RNG you need


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For the record, the Donkey Kong RNG is entirely based on vacant cycles after each frame, so even the slightest variation in input can affect events drastically, and it would be very easy to reload a savestate until you get the RNG you need


Yeah, he says it's evidence of splicing in the next tweet. https://twitter.com/wescopeland_/status ... 0998910976


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It's not exactly evidence as such, but paired with the actual unquestionable evidence of the recording being MAME, despite claims of it being PCB, it definitely results in a situation that smells fishy.


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Free entertainment incoming. Looks like this could go on for awhile .. better grab your popcorn. :mrgreen:

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This is indeed looking to be something special. Image Even if it comes to nothing, the mere threat of litigation is fucking amazing. :lol:

"SURELY THIS WILL RESTORE OUR CREDIBILITY"

Falsificare taken to a dangerous new extreme!
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Silly Billy's already proven to be trigger happy with the lawlsuits after he tried to sue that cartoon for using his likeness or whatever (and lost, lol).


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We are less than ten days away from the decision. (Man this has already been way too long)

I'm nervous about this one. Jace Hall has the OG tapes and has been "analizing" them. What if he has malicious intent and decides to falsificate them or something? Hope he does the right thing... as there is 100% irrefutable proof that MAME was used.
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Could end up that the VHS tape doesn't show the kind of evidence the direct feed did. Which is why relying on VHS tapes is pretty stupid.

I think I should also point out that even if his score is legit, it'd still barely be in the top 10 anymore.


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Which is why relying on VHS tapes is pretty stupid.

exactly
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i do believe it's over the 14th spot :lol: video games is serious business
next threadholder who places me wrong in teh scoar forum getting sued :twisted:
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Great wrap-up of the investigation so far :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEKYlZb ... e=youtu.be



A juicy comment under that video. Billy looks like a genuine good guy Image

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The hit piece she mentions at the end is indeed a straight up slander job against Appollo Legend
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