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 Post subject: Re: Movies you've just watched
PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:53 am 


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"So much tragedy in your life."

I definitely saw parallels between Dickie giving Tony the rationalization to take the hot speakers and Tony pushing Chris off the wagon.


True to Chase's usual downplaying of mafia lore in favour of schlubby consumerist reality, this was Tony's doom forecast. The movie's most signal image of him was also that of the trailer, blissfully lazing about with his goods. The classic motif of greedy, reckless young guys getting something for what they disastrously convince themselves is "nothing."

(cut to Tony Egg socking Kim in the teeth, no doubt tormented by the same spectres of Mr. and Mrs. Mike Smith that Tony invoked to Carm, after his narrowly defeating Boyz II Men)

There's some notion of filial "honour" at the very end, at casket-side, but where'd that ever lead Tony and co, really? Just more unearned comfort grasped at from an express elevator to the grave or the can. MSON is Tony with one foot in the door... the promotional materials, even if they were 100% genuine and not just marketing dept. cajoling - how much is there to say really? I'd enjoy a sequel in this mode, for sure, but I can fill in the blanks re: Tony and Johnny Boy, Jackie, Pussy et al happily enough. Fuck was Tony gonna do with a semester and a half at Seton Hall? Sell patio furniture?
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The diner Tony is waiting to meet Dickie at in the end is Holsten's.
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No Time To Die: **1/2

I've never been a huge fan of Roger Craig as James Bond (I tend to be more a fan of the cheesy Roger Moore ones) but I thought this one was better than Spectre. Plot-wise it's a pretty formulaic Bond film (villain tries to take over and/or destroy the world with some sort of high-tech gobbledygook) and Rami Malek is a pretty average Bond villain. Overall I'd put it in the middle of the 5 Daniel Craig films (my order would probably go Casino Royale, Skyfall, No Time To Die, Spectre, Quantum of Solace.) It's hard to talk about much more than that without spoilers, so...

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Apparently if you make the movie long enough, James Bond does, in fact, have time to die. I'm sure there were reasons for taking this approach (most likely it had something to do with Daniel Craig wanting to make sure they wouldn't try to bring him back for another James Bond film) but much like most of the "twist" endings in the Daniel Craig Bond films it feels extraneous and tacked on at the last minute, especially given the fact that MI6's reaction to the loss of James Bond was basically that Jeremy Clarkson "Oh no! Anyway..." meme floating around, which leads me to believe that James Bond is about as dead as Sherlock Holmes was after his encounter with Moriarty at Reichenbach Falls (which happened for similar reasons as Arthur Conan Doyle was tired of writing Sherlock Holmes stories but was eventually forced to bring him back after he found out that nobody had much interest in anything he wrote besides Sherlock Holmes.) In pretty much any other circumstance James Bond would have found a way to survive, but apparently someone wanted him dead, and that someone was probably Daniel Craig.

After seeing Spectre I felt that they completely wasted Ernest Blofeld in this version, and this film does little to change that perception. The shadowy organization that was secretly (or not so secretly) behind the evil plots of the last four films was basically thrown under the bus for the sake of a minor plot point early in the film, and eventually Blofeld meets the same fate after putting in a brief cameo. I wasn't a fan of Christoph Waltz's rendition of Blofeld, but the whole thing just felt dumb.

Nomi, the "new" 007 in this movie, seems like a decent addition to the film, although I have a hard time believing she would become the new James Bond (and/or Jane Bond, as the case may be.) Every time another 00 agent appears in a Bond film they always seem to end up either a traitor or dead, so it's interesting to see what happens when there's more than one and they actually stay on the same side. Since Nomi eventually gives the 007 designation back to James it's uncertain if she would get it back after the demise of James Bond, but it would definitely be interesting to see her in another film, even if in a supporting role.
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Halloween Kills. Certainly felt like the "Empire Strikes Back" of the Halloween movies. The battle may be over, but the war with Michael Myers is only just beginning.
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A somewhat interesting concept (An NPC in a GTA style game becomes self-aware and starts breaking the game) ruined completely by saddling it with a rather stupid out-of-game plot and one of the most annoying characters I've ever seen in a film (Taika Waititi as the villain Antwan who comes across as basically an even more annoying and over-the-top version of Mugatu from the Zoolander movies.) It has a few good moments in it, but not enough that you'd want to see it more than once.
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I saw Dune in IMAX a few weeks ago in Germany. Was nice getting a jump on my US and Japan based friends. My friend who booked the tickets really fucked up... or should I saw was fucked by German intuition. We got 7th row (of 7) far right. Small theater, so we were like, okay, back row ain't bad. Then walked in and realized they count backwards! Why the fuck not?! So, front left corner. :|

So on that note, I kind of owe Japan an apology as I've always lambasted their website skills for so long. They still suck, really bad from what little J-surfing I still do, but the Germans and Dutch have shown me that it's not unique to Japan. America fucks almost everything up, but in terms of intuitive website design we win.
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Dude, how was Dune? I'm chomping at the bit to see it but prob wont be able to go for another week or so. Even though I have a pretty beefy sound system I refuse to watch it at home with HBO,

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So on that note, I kind of owe Japan an apology as I've always lambasted their website skills for so long. They still suck, really bad from what little J-surfing I still do, but the Germans and Dutch have shown me that it's not unique to Japan. America fucks almost everything up, but in terms of intuitive website design we win.


Reminds me of my last job where I had to use several intergovernmental websites such as ASEAN and so on. In my limited experience the European Commission's website was one of the worst. Tons of circular and broken links.


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I saw Dune in IMAX a few weeks ago in Germany. Was nice getting a jump on my US and Japan based friends. My friend who booked the tickets really fucked up... or should I saw was fucked by German intuition. We got 7th row (of 7) far right. Small theater, so we were like, okay, back row ain't bad. Then walked in and realized they count backwards! Why the fuck not?! So, front left corner. :|

So on that note, I kind of owe Japan an apology as I've always lambasted their website skills for so long. They still suck, really bad from what little J-surfing I still do, but the Germans and Dutch have shown me that it's not unique to Japan. America fucks almost everything up, but in terms of intuitive website design we win.


At least you managed to dodge the German dubbed version. :)
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Reserved tickets in movie theaters seem to be a relatively recent thing, mostly coinciding with the rise of the "recliner seat" theaters. A lot of the ticket buying apps (stuff like Atom, Fandango and the various theater chains own apps) tend to have confusing interfaces for selecting seats, but at the very least there is some indication of where the screen is located.
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Dude, how was Dune? I'm chomping at the bit to see it but prob wont be able to go for another week or so. Even though I have a pretty beefy sound system I refuse to watch it at home with HBO,


It was dope! And I applaud you for going to the theater -- has to be done. Streaming? WTF.


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Not exactly... the interface to pick seats was so bad, we had originally planned to see it on one night but realized there was only 1 seat left after clicking EVERY FUCKING SEAT on the map. Such a bad design. Then, I cracked it! Got us two seats! Yeah! Then realized I did for the German dub. I was so defeated by the website I refused to figure out if I even could get a refund and just wrote the 40 Euros off and went clubbing.

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Reserved tickets in movie theaters seem to be a relatively recent thing, mostly coinciding with the rise of the "recliner seat" theaters. A lot of the ticket buying apps (stuff like Atom, Fandango and the various theater chains own apps) tend to have confusing interfaces for selecting seats, but at the very least there is some indication of where the screen is located.


They are NOTHING compared to this one. At least I thought so. Try for yourself.
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Yes, that's pretty confusing, especially having two different colors of seats for no apparent reason. Since I knew what to look for (and can read at least some German) I could probably muddle through, but there's much better ways to do that.
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Halloween Kills. Seems like this one is getting a lot of hate. Not that bad really. I enjoyed it.


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Just saw the new Dune movie. Bring on Part 2.
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Jungle Cruise

***/*****

I don't like the rock/Dwayne Johnson. It came highly recommended.

The journey was so so, the end was so so. It was better than Indiana Jones 4 though and it borrowed a few tidbits from the Indiana Jones franchise and had a Pirates of the Jungle Cruise theme about it.

I wouldn't highly recommend it. But its ok.


I hope the Eternals is better, but i've heard bad things already :x
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Dune 2021 was much better than I expected based on the trailers, but I openly wonder how much people who haven't read the books are gonna be able to follow, so much gets glossed over so fast.

I've only seen trailers for Jodorowsky's Dune, but I recognized several designs.

I expect there'll be an extended cut when the movie comes out on disk.
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Really? Given it's 2.5 hours and covers the portion which I didn't feel was horribly rushed and hacked up in Lynch's Dune, I was expecting this to be overly dragged out if anything. What are they skipping over too quickly?


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Dune 2021 was much better than I expected based on the trailers, but I openly wonder how much people who haven't read the books are gonna be able to follow, so much gets glossed over so fast.

I've only seen trailers for Jodorowsky's Dune, but I recognized several designs.

I expect there'll be an extended cut when the movie comes out on disk. I already know how I am going to modify the movie so that my gf likes it.

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Really? Given it's 2.5 hours and covers the portion which I didn't feel was horribly rushed and hacked up in Lynch's Dune, I was expecting this to be overly dragged out if anything. What are they skipping over too quickly?


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They leave out the explanation that Duke Leto's kindness to the people serves a military purpose: to attract the galaxy's best fighters, who in turn manage to train his armies within a hair as good as The Sardaukar; which is the Emperor's motivation for setting up the Duke's downfall in the first place. Leto knows he's stepping into a trap because his plan is to marry Atreides martial training with the toughness of the Fremen who arguably live in an environment tougher and more violent than the Sardaukar's home planet. (Warhammer 40k steals A LOT from this book).

They leave out the otherwise whip-smart Atreides staff knowing there's a traitor in their midst but dismissing Dr. Yueh out of hand because the "Imperial Conditioning" against doing harm, denoted by his forehead tattoo, was supposedly impossible to break.

Along those lines, you get no indication of the twisted intelligence of the Harkonens, like the fact that David Dastmalchian's "Piter DeVries" character was a mad genius who figured out how to break imperial conditioning. Nor do you even see Baron Harkonen's chosen heir Feyd Rautha or hear his plan to make Rautha an Atreides-tier beloved hero to the people of Arrakis by first oppressing them under the boot of Piter DeVries for several years, then letting Feyd Rautha "rescue" the populace.



On the flipside I DO like that, unlike the Lynch version, this movie makes very clear that the religious prophecy that Paul and Jessica use for their own protection was intentionally seeded in the population of Dune by Bene Gesserit imperialists.

And I like that Paul clearly has his "terrible purpose" foreshadowed.


Edit: Also a thing that threw off a friend of mine was they never explained that if a lasgun intersects with a shield, it causes a low-grade nuclear explosion killing both attacker and defender, which is why most fighting is done with blades.
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The explanation of the Atreides army I can do without, it was glossed over in Lynch's adaptation too - and I think there it was Dr. Kynes that introduced the concept of allying with the Fremen? As long as it plays out fairly consistently within itself it's not bad - but does raise the question of why not do this when you've got 2 hours to do the setup. At least it expands on the prophecy, that mostly came out of nowhere in Lynch's film and you just kind of had to run with it

Shame it skips important bits around Dr. Yueh and Piter because again, it seems harder to leave it out and have it make sense than just include it. Having not read the book (yeah I know, I know), Feyd was completely nonsensical in Lynch's adaptation. His setup is literally "Sting in nothing but metal underpants" for the baron to get all weird incest pervy over, then he shows up to fight Paul at the end for no reason. I saw he wasn't cast in this one so assumed he'd be shunted into part 2... but maybe he's just been axed entirely?

Hopefully Duncan doesn't go down like a chump in this version? The shield was cool and literally all he did was bowl over some dudes and get shot in the head.


Still, fingers crossed it's still showing when I get a window later in the month because I've got a handful of free cinema tickets to use and my local cinema has been doing 1030 showings of this - which would hopefully be sparse on the people AND the covid. Part 2 is pretty much nailed on now, right?


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I am going to watch Dune with a group of students who asked me to act as their SF mentor of sorts, for the occasion (context: I work at a big uni in Wuhan, China).
SF is generally getting very popular, the book was (re-)translated relatively recently, and big, epic stuff usually sells well, here.
I might re-read the book, as I remember very little at this point (read the first 4 books at 16, in 1996...).

The 40k mention did stir some teenager memories, though: I played a lot of it (=the miniatures and dice version) during those years, and the....conceptual lifts were ubiquitous (The first edition of WarHammer had a list of authors from whom the game designers admitted lifting stuff, eh!).

At some point or another, I should watch this with my father and stream on-line the inevitable post-movie rant marathon in which the man would complain about the adaptation being too imprecise (he is one of those guys, and the rants are generally hilariously pedantic).
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The movie studio that recently released the 2021 Dune film (that clocks in at 155 minutes in overall duration) has officially "greenlit" the upcoming Dune Part II film that's slated for an October 2023 theatrical release indeed. We'll only have to wait a mere two years to find out what happens next.

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Once Upon a Crime: **

1992 Whodunnit starring John Candy and Jim Belushi where three dysfunctional couples get mixed up in the investigation into the murder of a wealthy woman in Monte Carlo (or at least the Hollywood sound stage version thereof) by somehow managing to act as suspiciously as they possibly can in every single instance. It's a remake of a 1960 Italian film, and oddly enough it got remade again a few years later as an Indian film. Lots of scenery chewing going on here, especially from Candy and Belushi. Ultimately it bombed in the theaters (not even grossing half its $18m production cost) and has the dubious distinctions of a 0% ratting on Rotten Tomatoes and a Razzie nomination.
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Black Widow: **1/2

While it's good to see Scarlett Johansson get her own movie, it's pretty average for a Marvel movie. Set after Civil War but before Infinity War, it has to add a bunch of extra characters and then somehow make them all completely disappear by the time Thanos shows up, so ultimately nothing in this film is of any consequence to anything else in the MCU. A few decent action scenes, but not much more of substance.

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Dune Part 1 (2021) Deftly done, thoroughly enjoyed. 2.5hrs could never contain the novel's exquisitely unhurried richness - it's impossible not to wish this had been a televised series - but it elides its essence more than gracefully, couched in satisfyingly heavy, dusty techno-medieval.

Oscar Isaac is a bit too young, and just a few asides would've largely patched the book-dependant narrative gaps MM pointed out. Still, very decent work overall; looking forward to Part 2.

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I hope so, it could genuinely benefit from a little added material. Not expecting a radically different film, just a sensibly filled-out one, to play better for viewers unfamiliar with the source. As-is, it feels like a film for existing fans of the novel - no complaints from me there, but it'd be nice to see a theatrical adaptation really stand on its own.
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Last week I saw 4 movies in the theater.

1. Possession (Andrzej Żuławski 1981)

Fukken slaps. Best psych-horror movie I've seen in a long time and in the rankings for best ever. Without ruining it for anyone, there are so many various interpretations to so many different parts of the movie that I am still thinking about exactly what happened and the timeline of events.. The creature effects were super cool and the direction of the movie was incredibly cohesive for the subject matter. The only weak link in the movie to me was Sam Neill who was sometimes just too hammy for the moment (an issue I am assured becomes less distracting upon subsequent viewings). This is a movie I am definitely going to watch again at least once and hopefully in the theater again

2. Poltergeist (S.S. 1982)

Meh. This was my first time watching it for some reason. It's boring and prosaic 80's family fair that I would have appreciated in the 80s as a kid. Maybe it's more interesting to a younger audience as a culture artifact but I didn't care. The creature effects are the only thing that redeemed the movie to me at all, but the direction and sequencing are a mess.
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Never going to watch it on purpose again.

3. Dune. Pt. 1

Yeah. This was a beautiful movie. I enjoyed it from the beginning to the end, in spite of being able to recognize some flaws along the way. I agree with BIL that the protagonist was too green for the role, and way too soft IMO. I thought that the
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Another major issue for me is that I don't think they cut off the movie very well. I found myself very distracted by the last 30 minutes, always looking for the plot to be wrapped up and not feeling like they did a good job of encapsulating Part 1 in it's own clothes. "...Is this where they are going to end it?" was out front in my mind a lot.


4. Velvet Underground ( Todd Haynes 2021)

It was just okay. I liked the Velvet Underground 30 years ago and still think they were an important band, but this movie told me very little new and didn't really give me an experience that I felt moved by. It focuses on Lou Reed more than anything, and the story of how he alienated and forced other talents out of the band through his insecurity. That's the real story of the band, but it's not an especially entertaining one.

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Adam Sandler is strange, he just constantly doles out shit film after shit film with steadily declining enthusiasm like a factory conveyor belt, and then once in a blue moon he puts out a great performance in a nuanced role and everyone thinks he's turned a new leaf and we're about to see dynamic actor Adam Sander... then back to the recycled shit.
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I just watched DUNE at the cinema in Berlin.

It was not too bad at all. Sticks for the most part to part of the first book.
A more subdued and gluttonous Baron, Rabban is not depicted as a half-wit like in the last film, violence is not over stated.
They managed to include the arabic references and I felt pulled off the implication that the military aspect may be all well and good but it served move-over as a 'reminder' and the real power was in the politics and the economics - like in the book.

Definitely not a vaccum-headed Hollywood tripe dump and not too bad at all.
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Really? Given it's 2.5 hours and covers the portion which I didn't feel was horribly rushed and hacked up in Lynch's Dune, I was expecting this to be overly dragged out if anything. What are they skipping over too quickly?

I agree: it does not gloss over much but has the policy of 'showing' instead of over-explaining every single last tiny, whiny, incey-whincey last detail for people who lack a brain.

It was fine pacing wise, and we have to consider that it's based on the Novel so we can assume that it will follow the plot and sequence of events - and in fact, I recall both the first Novel and the last film as I watched and in a way it was a bit too linear for my liking, but if you've read the books then it may have this effect, if you haven't then it gives enough on an impression to pass enough across.

They'd didn't really focus much on what the actual Spice/Melange actually is and nowhere to be seen were any Tradesguild Navigators - more in the next film perhaps.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:27 pm 


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I shall not comment on your hidden text as we will be here forever discussing it ;)

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Edit: Also a thing that threw off a friend of mine was they never explained that if a lasgun intersects with a shield, it causes a low-grade nuclear explosion killing both attacker and defender, which is why most fighting is done with blades.


Yes, and to be honest, I thought at the point at which Duncan sacrifices himself that he'd go all out and commit a sutemi and blow himself and the aggressors away at the last stand.
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 Post subject: Re: Movies you've just watched
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:33 pm 


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IIRC, the book mentions the scale of nuke resulting from a Lasgun hitting a shield being notoriously unpredictable -
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I'd guess Duncan would worry about it bringing the whole place down on Paul and Jessica.


Might've been in a later OG instalment, it's been a while... definitely not from the Brian Herbert / Kevin J. Anderson stuff. Never read those, though I do like reading diehards' outrage on 'em. :lol:

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