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Iran War. When.
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2022-2025 20%  20%  [ 5 ]
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This is from Batman #666 in 2007. I gotta hand it to Grant Morrison for nailing 2020/21 pretty much exactly:


oof, one of my favorite runs of monthly super hero comics, and now it hits a little too hard.


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I really liked the early stuff he did on New X-Men. "Holy shit, they're doing something new with these characters? These characters are interesting again?" It was like something out of their Vertigo label for teenagers and adults, not the children's fantasy fluff. Consequences and weird shit everywhere.

Then he shat the bed in the end. "Of course it has to suck, X-Men sucks so this had to suck. I'm a writer!" Morrison is a mean dude.


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Self-promoting on Morrison, and thus being blatantly off-topic (but the thread deserves no less).
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Just a reminder that even amidst a pandemic and a self-styled "historic labor shortage" the corporations we're constantly told to bend over backwards for would rather exploit prison labor than pay a wage decent enough to make their jobs worth applying for.


Right... Small business owners should pick up the tab instead of our government burning piles of inflated debt on handouts with no repercussions.

It’s not like the chance of an entrepreneur being successful wasn’t already low in the in last 10 years. Let’s make the most expensive overhead cost even more expensive. That’ll make those already broke small businesses SUPER successful..

Let’s not hold people accountable to work or anything here..

I think I’ll head down to my man cave and play Xbox for 3 years instead. Damn pandemic is ruining my work ethic..
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MY PILLOW CYBER SYMPOSIUM UPDATE: HUGE!!! DEEP STATE IN PANIC, APOCALYPSE INBOUND:

Just a heads up to everyone: Buckle down for an indefinite period of global everything-outages. The Deep State is going full defcon 1 to prevent anyone from hearing about the My Pillow guy's internet convention:

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That post has racked 107 American Punisher flags already, so you know this is legit. It's go time for real, people.

As you can see, unfortunately the global Ba'al and Dagon-worshipping Cabal's movements are impossible to trace at the present time.

Now that patriotic digital soldiers have uncovered their standard method of recruiting crisis actors through Craigslist, it's possible the global shadow government has created a means to bypass Craigslist entirely.

Be ready for anything.


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What do they do when nothing happens? I guess we should ask the end of the world cult as well.
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I think I’ll head down to my man cave and play Xbox for 3 years instead. Damn pandemic is ruining my work ethic..


First off, I don't know if any reliable statistics to that end are out there, but I very much doubt that the majority of the companies lining up to outsource labor to prisons are mom-and-pop outfits. On that note, if you really do care so much about the current state of entrepreneurship (which is a separate topic altogether, but whatever), you should be much more focused on corporate consolidation and the anticompetitive (and, thanks to "pro-business" forces, increasingly legal) measures that inevitably result from it.

I'm not exactly an expert when it comes to being on the dole, but I am aware that for most folks it's considerably less generous than it was a decade or three back, and we trailed the rest of the developed world even back then; if most of the jobs on offer are paying so little that even the USA's scrawny, mean-spirited excuse for a welfare system, which is deliberately designed not to be livable much above the poverty line, can still compete with it, especially with the ballooning wealth gap of the past half-century yawning ever wider in the background, sorry, the problem ain't that Uncle Sam is treating too many folks to free XBoxes.
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I also want to point out that the whole "work ethic" argument only works in an even playing field.

If everyone who put in an "honest days work" was guaranteed equal wealth and opportunity (even to within some wide margin), then it would make sense to have a "work ethic" from a logistic perspective. But that's not the case. It's so far from the truth in this country that people increasingly do not care, in spite of the natural human desire to feel useful and do a "good job" (a trait we share with dogs).


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Hoagtech wrote:
I think I’ll head down to my man cave and play Xbox for 3 years instead. Damn pandemic is ruining my work ethic..


First off, I don't know if any reliable statistics to that end are out there, but I very much doubt that the majority of the companies lining up to outsource labor to prisons are mom-and-pop outfits. On that note, if you really do care so much about the current state of entrepreneurship (which is a separate topic altogether, but whatever), you should be much more focused on corporate consolidation and the anticompetitive (and, thanks to "pro-business" forces, increasingly legal) measures that inevitably result from it.

I'm not exactly an expert when it comes to being on the dole, but I am aware that for most folks it's considerably less generous than it was a decade or three back, and we trailed the rest of the developed world even back then; if most of the jobs on offer are paying so little that even the USA's scrawny, mean-spirited excuse for a welfare system, which is deliberately designed not to be livable much above the poverty line, can still compete with it, especially with the ballooning wealth gap of the past half-century yawning ever wider in the background, sorry, the problem ain't that Uncle Sam is treating too many folks to free XBoxes.


The only reason Xbox’s aren’t free is because scalpers made them near impossible to buy.

I’m saying increasing minimum wage will not solve the problem of the unemployed choosing not to get government assistance.

We are #12 out of 195 countries of the highest minimum wage paid and within $1 of the top 5. Out of that. Big cities in the west coast have a mandatory $15 minimum wage that’s almost $4 above highest minimum wage in the world.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country

I can see how this can be considered off the topic of “Amazon not paying their warehouse employees enough“ but regulating higher wages has an adverse effect on small businesses that are competing with big box and corporations.

The problem I’m seeing is people marginalizing their beliefs based on their “team politics” in this scenario. It’s the same crowd defending inflationary spending and higher taxes and interest rates as a “tool to defend” the very inflation their causing..

You cannot sympathize for an able bodied individual with no experience exploiting our extra unemployment funds because “they don’t get paid enough to care”

It’s called” laziness” and Gen Z is full of it..

We should regulate people to use their potential to not go broke rather than have future taxpayers pay for their lifestyles..
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(a trait we share with dogs)


we are so domesticated

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I guess we should ask the end of the world cult as well.


I'm pretty sure the Mars bunker escape plan isn't gonna work out without the fuel to materially carry it out. (If we were even in the magical scifi world where it was possible... a timeline we're... we're not on.)

Remember when you were like "we're never gonna have a recession as bad as 2008!" and asked if I thought we would. I cowardly hedged and tempered my response with a weaselly "probably not, but I wouldn't put it past them to exceed my expectations." Something I'm completely ashamed of; it's exactly the kind of cowardice I give other people such a hard time for. Stand for something and take the risk of being wrong or seen as morally icky, or you're just on the side of the status quo which is morally icky by default. (I'll never understand the human aversion to being seen as "bad". Of course all of us are "bad", we have our own interests as our chief concern, morality is relative. Nothing wrong with that, as long as one's honest. And being "wrong" is a fait accompli, we merely struggle to be less wrong.)

So here we are. Worse conditions than 2008. Gonna to maybe get slightly better here and there before it continues to get much worse. The metrics you use to pretend things are fine will still look great. BLS would still be reporting an employment rate of ~95% during a literal lovecraftian cosmic horror apocalypse, as they screen out people not looking for a job in the first question of the survey. People busy trying to stab shoggoths with sticks and desperate to find clean water.

BLS employment statistic is over 96% by the way. So 2020 and 2021 are fine, normal years. No problems at all. Hell, that's about as good as it's ever been. I don't get what all the whining is about.~~

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I can see how this can be considered off the topic of “Amazon not paying their warehouse employees enough“ but regulating higher wages has an adverse effect on small businesses that are competing with big box and corporations.

The problem I’m seeing is people marginalizing their beliefs based on their “team politics” in this scenario. It’s the same crowd defending inflationary spending and higher taxes and interest rates as a “tool to defend” the very inflation their causing..

You cannot sympathize for an able bodied individual with no experience exploiting our extra unemployment funds because “they don’t get paid enough to care”

It’s called” laziness” and Gen Z is full of it..


You are right that raising the minimum wage isn't going to solve systematic issues: stuff like fuel and zinc shortages, the disruption of the supply chain... Things like "we can get through this with solar and wind power!" are indeed irrational leftist wishful thinking.

You are entertainingly filled with hate for young people and a strange belief in being able to compete in the markets against goliaths for some indiscernible reason, though. The non-materialism and magic is something I've missed since what's his face left. Classic honest liberalism with all its weird ghostly spooky trappings, a rare breed indeed on these parts of the internet these days. o7

Anyway, the young people didn't have any power or say in setting our social goals. Those are:

The non-material spiritual level: Elevate and empower a small cabal of royalty to enjoy their drugs and sex of choice.

The material physical level: Waste our finite fuel reserves on moving tons of metal around in order to move hundreds of pounds of meat.

It's always lolzy whenever a liberal hates someone with no money and no power. Lots of fear of admitting they don't have any power or money (relative to our gods) either.


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Hoagtech wrote:
It’s called” laziness” and Gen Z is full of it..


Socrates circa. 470 BC wrote:
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.


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What do they do when nothing happens?


They've been at this for 4+ years now, and nothing is what always happens. It's always the same set of excuses: this is WW3, military ops take time, you can't rush them. Have faith, trust the plan and hold the line, everything you're watching is a carefully orchestrated movie to wake up the sheeple. Big things going down behind the scenes, all demoncrats about to be executed then sent to Moon jail very soon, etc. etc.

After all, they didn't say the Mike Lindell August Cyber Symposium of which year:

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Oh yeah, when you are committed to something that hard, even a failure is viewed as some kind of "divine machination."

I remember in HS one of my classmates' family was hard in some cult-level church and they tried to convince me that god put dinosaur bones in the earth's crust to test our faith.


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The best part about this story is that these people are more likely than not armed to the teeth.
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yep. "waiting for the other shoe to drop" on another congressional situation. with any luck, it will scare enough people on the right to jump ship


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I remember in HS one of my classmates' family was hard in some cult-level church and they tried to convince me that god put dinosaur bones in the earth's crust to test our faith.


Were they in Christians Against Dinosaurs?

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with any luck, it will scare enough people on the right to jump ship

Sorry, but if they haven't already left after all they've seen, going back decades - just the other day we learned that Trump wanted the DOJ to label the election "corrupt" without any evidence to open the door for him and his congressional cocksuckers to steal it - they never will.
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if it gets extreme enough, things might change.

after all, the people who really gave him power still want to protect the system that bolsters their pocketbooks


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after all, the people who really gave him power still want to protect the system that bolsters their pocketbooks

Considering Trump's major legislative achievement, like every other conservative before him going back ages, was an overwhelmingly top-heavy tax cut, and how quickly all of the corporations who were "reviewing" their PAC donations resumed backing the ghouls who voted against certifying the election mere hours after the Capitol was sacked, I find it very difficult to consider that a legitimate possibility.
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You are entertainingly filled with hate for young people and a strange belief in being able to compete in the markets against goliaths for some indiscernible reason, though.

Classic honest liberalism with all its weird ghostly spooky trappings, a rare breed indeed on these parts of the internet these days. o7


I’m filled with no hate towards anyone. I just feel like their generation of acceptance pads their ass while their life passes them by instead of utilizing their talents towards a form of effort. And I only speak for the ones that do “punch uncle sams clock” . I’m not saying the whole generation is fucked, I’m just pointing out a facet of it that’s needs “a little work”.

And I do believe anyone can compete against Goliaths and I’ll send you a PM for personal proof in about a month after my NDA expires..

I’m glad you can recognize spending won’t solve systemic economy issues at least but I’m kinda getting sick of you claiming you guys are some sort of “middle ground” when bringing up these psycho’s and their conspiracy theories to demonize opposing thought.

I saw a crackhead talking to a phone pole and didn’t bother to ask him his political stance because he’s lost his mind and is talking incoherently and has no business exemplifying either party.

Just FYI. From an outsider perspective. I doubt your “more of a libertarian” I’m pretty sure I saw you, @Mischief Maker, and @Gaijin Punch last time I was in Vegas.. The show was alright but I felt you guys went a little hard on the “PVC Space Xylophone”..

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vol.2 wrote:
after all, the people who really gave him power still want to protect the system that bolsters their pocketbooks

Considering Trump's major legislative achievement, like every other conservative before him going back ages, was an overwhelmingly top-heavy tax cut, and how quickly all of the corporations who were "reviewing" their PAC donations resumed backing the ghouls who voted against certifying the election mere hours after the Capitol was sacked, I find it very difficult to consider that a legitimate possibility.


I disagree. All these checks & balances in the system evolved precisely to protect the interests of the plutarchy. In the current system, if you're industry organization X or corporate guy Y and you need something done - or something blocked - you have a whole marketplace of options in Washington. That's why the filibuster is staying right where it is. If a dictatorship or closed oligarchy emerges, suddenly there is only one real gate of power and the price of admission goes way up. What's worse, there's no political Burger King to go to if political McDonald's tells you no. You're not getting that trade protection or profit-margin saving deregulation and that's that.

If it seemed like soulless trained monkeys like Ted Cruz were about to become useless, that would be a huge problem for a lot of wealthy and powerful people. They resumed their PAC donations for precisely that reason. The Trump scare was gone, and they'd already invested in these people. They all knew the talk about supporting Trump or downplaying Jan 6th was because it was the only thing their constituencies were willing to hear.


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They gave poor people free money. Under Biden, under Trump, it made no difference. They gave poor people.... money, all the same.

There could be no better sign they're desperately invested in holding this doomed sinking ship together than that.


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I’m kinda getting sick of you claiming you guys are some sort of “middle ground” when bringing up these psycho’s and their conspiracy theories to demonize opposing thought.

Sorry, but when objective pants-on-head nonsense is not only tolerated but embraced with next to zero pushback from those who supposedly don't want to be conflated with it they don't get to complain that they're being "demonized" (or, even more ridiculously, silenced). Speaking of finding one's voice...

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Why not post it right here for any and all to see? I'd certainly be interested in witnessing the magic with my own eyes.

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If a dictatorship or closed oligarchy emerges, suddenly there is only one real gate of power and the price of admission goes way up.

Considering that the GOP is currently in the process of giving itself the power to not only disenfranchise inconvenient voters but outright ignore electoral outcomes it doesn't like, as merely the latest salvo in a decades-long effort to not only disempower but delegitimize its opposition, I can't share the same confidence that this is the desired endgame for the party...or at the very least not all of it, by a long shot.
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I’m kinda getting sick of you claiming you guys are some sort of “middle ground” when bringing up these psycho’s and their conspiracy theories to demonize opposing thought.


Who's claiming to be "middle ground?" I don't see that. Certainly not me. Thinking that both parties are trash doesn't automatically mean that you occupy middle ground on issues.

And, yeah, I have to agree with BM on this one that the "psycho's and their conspiracy theories" are now driving the Republican party. They are using bold-faced lies to justify unconstitutional voting restrictions and to promote the lie that trump won the last election. Republican members of Congress are marching into work without masks to protest safety restrictions aimed at saving lives, and we have the guy from Florida handing out anti Faucii T-shirts. The psychos are in charge. You are in total denial if you think otherwise. This is the kind of shit that leads up to things like Nazi Germany.


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Considering that the GOP is currently in the process of giving itself the power to not only disenfranchise inconvenient voters but outright ignore electoral outcomes it doesn't like, as merely the latest salvo in a decades-long effort to not only disempower but delegitimize its opposition, I can't share the same confidence that this is the desired endgame for the party...or at the very least not all of it, by a long shot.


It doesn't have to be, just needs to be the endgame of the people with power.


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I’m kinda getting sick of you claiming you guys are some sort of “middle ground” when bringing up these psycho’s and their conspiracy theories to demonize opposing thought.


I'm not posting the Qanon stuff as some kind of commentary on conservative thought. Outside of a vague ultra-reactionary white Christian nationalism, it's not consistent or coherent enough to represent any kind of actual ideology of governance.

I post it in part because on the surface, it's all so silly and over the top that you can't help but laugh, regardless of political orientation (I would hope):

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...I mean come on. "Matriarchal earth-system handler witch" is pure gold.

But I have so much of this material because at the same time, I find it genuinely important that millions of functional adults in a 21st century technocracy are living in that world, deeply convinced that they're right. There are literally thousands of families who have disowned their children, estranged their parents or divorced over this stuff. People are getting pulled into it, and they're getting pulled in deep and cannot, or will not get out. And it's spread to England, Germany, Canada, Japan, Australia...

In that sense, there is nothing more "now" than this stuff. The pace of cultural change has accelerated so fast that some people have just gotten off the train altogether. They just need to cocoon in something that makes sense of it all in a way they can relate to, and tells them it's going to be alright, dad's going to fix it all. There have always been people with extreme religious views, there have always been conspiracy theorists. But there hasn't been a moment like quite this, where a completely irrational mass movement coincides with 1st world education and a heavily digital society.

Because here's the thing conservatives do have to contend with: these aren't fringe psychos, as you frame them. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert rode into congressional seats on Qanon platforms. Red states are still wasting taxpayer money trying to find the bamboo fibres. Mike Flynn, the former national security advisor, is now making a living grifting this stuff, appearing at Q events, granting it a patina of military legitimacy to a willing customer base. Time Magazine just called Tucker Carlson the most powerful conservative in America. This is in no small part due to him seeing which way the wind was blowing, and making constant nods to the Q crowd, even spinning his own conspiracies.

It really is in the middle of everything that's happening on the right at the moment.

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Considering that the GOP is currently in the process of giving itself the power to not only disenfranchise inconvenient voters but outright ignore electoral outcomes it doesn't like, as merely the latest salvo in a decades-long effort to not only disempower but delegitimize its opposition, I can't share the same confidence that this is the desired endgame for the party...or at the very least not all of it, by a long shot.


I think that's best interpreted as a move of self-preservation. They are acutely aware, and have been for decades, that demographic shifts are going to make whites less than 50% of the population, and soon. They tried to make a play for hispanic religious conservatives, but their voters weren't having it. That approach led their constituents directly to Trump.

The attempts at voter disenfranchisement are republicans trying to shore up their territory through the only reliable means available. Unethical? Yes. A move toward dictatorship? They're painfully aware they don't have anything like the kind of power base needed to pull that off.

Not to mention, as much as the cult of Trump has taken off, the right are supposed to be the individualists, the actual liberals. That still represents a vocal wing of their party, drowned out by the Evangelicals, social conservatives and quasi-monarchists though they may be at the moment.


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This conversation is getting whack so I’m going to revert it to OP.

I would bring a magnesium fire starter as a tool to wander for the prelude to the apocalypse
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This conversation is becoming inconvenient for me and I need a safe space

Seriously, stay on target here: in a month's time I want to see the One Weird Trick that helps anyone overcome nearly a century's worth of uninterrupted corporate calcification.

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Unethical? Yes. A move toward dictatorship? They're painfully aware they don't have anything like the kind of power base needed to pull that off.

Even if it can be argued that this wasn't the original intention of the people who have been fanning the flames, I really do think that a huge portion of rank-and-file conservatives, quite possibly a majority, are more comfortable with going full authoritarian than viewing Those People as rivals to be debated, as opposed to threats to be eliminated, and that nearly all of the right's leadership would rather go right along with them than speak out, no matter how incoherent or outright violent it gets. It's a trend that goes all the way back to Southern Democrats during Reconstruction, if not further. I suppose time will tell either way.
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I mean, what would a fully fascist USA look like that's so different from where we are now? Official disenfranchisement of those who are unloyal to the single party? Execution or life long imprisonment of border-crossing immigrants? A mine field along the southern border?

... we do crazy stuff, like coup other country's governments, or if that doesn't work, invade them and take their shit?

All of these things only feel a couple degrees removed from where the status quo is, so I find it very hard to feel the same fear others do in this moment. Maybe they were deeper in denial than I was, and Trump forced them to see our country for what it is for a few years.. You'd, you'd think Bush II would have been more than enough, but I guess not??? ¯\_(0_o)_/¯

The foresight in Starship Troopers gets talked about a lot for good reason. Paul is a smart man, to have seen it coming over 20 years ago. The reasons he'd cite at the time are positively quaint and fluffy by modern sensibilities. Everyone else is just a mirror of their environment, "this is normal, things will be fine." With the "for me" at the end unspoken.

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They tried to make a play for hispanic religious conservatives, but their voters weren't having it. That approach led their constituents directly to Trump.


That just reminded me of Jeb Bush's ads with his wife in them. smh, the oligarchs deserve a refund from that campaign staff.

Pretend you're someone who likes Jeb. You like warm milk and bologna sandwiches for dinner. You want to see and hear from your guy himself, so you check out his youtube channel. A warm fluffy ad about his family and acceptance of other people continuing to exist makes your heart tingle with butterflies inside.

Then you scroll down to the comments. "Deport Columba" is, by far, the nicest thing you see down there.

The political malpractice? The channel administrators can turn off the comments with the click of a button. They didn't. So now you have all these videos as a monument to how much conservatives do not like Jeb!.

Jeb! wrote:
A Republican Will Never Win By Striking Fear In People's Hearts


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 Post subject: Re: Prelude to the Apocalypse
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:32 pm 


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This conversation is becoming inconvenient for me and I need a safe space


Isn't changing peoples quotes against the forum rules.., And aren't you a moderator? Give yourself a slap on the wrist..

I'm choosing not to further comment because I dislike a single facet of laziness with our employment rate high and jobs available and I already commented on it. I also touched on demonizing opposing thought and you guys doubled down with:

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Sorry, but when objective pants-on-head nonsense is not only tolerated but embraced..


Sengoku Strider wrote:
Were they in Christians Against Dinosaurs?


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"psycho's and their conspiracy theories" are now driving the Republican party.


You guys are being a touch unrealistic and I don't want to argue with it. I don't feel like I'm convincing anyone here of anything..

So Yes.. It is now "inconvenient" for me and your replies are generic.

Your all well within your rights of believing whatever you want to believe. So if its alright with you guys. Ill go back to getting my jollies off of Phosphor glow instead..
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 Post subject: Re: Prelude to the Apocalypse
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Hoagtech wrote:
You guys are being a touch unrealistic and I don't want to argue with it. I don't feel like I'm convincing anyone here of anything..


I can't speak for the others, but I am not looking for an argument. If you think you have something specific to say, I'll read it, and consider it.

I still feel like the Republican party has been, by and large, radicalized. I'm not sure exactly how you can objectively look at it and not see that, but I'm willing to read what's going on inside your head if you think that it's not true.

And as a disclaimer, I am not and have never been, attempting to find some kind of middle-ground between parties. My beliefs are, to the best of my abilities, my own. They tend to lean towards a "big government" and socialized public services (medicine, education, transportation) platform, and I believe that the government should be creating projects to employ our people and fix our crumbling infrastructure. If we have people who need to work, and jobs that need to be done, private corporate interests have completely failed to make that happen. It's way past time for it to be mandated without the need to support a prison industry.

Do I think that any of this crap is going to actually happen. Not a chance; the system is setup to prevent change. I think the most accessible explanation of this I've ever read is in Kurt Vonnegut's God Bless You Mr. Rosewater. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Bless ... _Rosewater


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