Prelude to the Apocalypse

[Skykid]

They definitely don't teach it in Japan.

Because they don't hate themselves, obviously.

Does that mean you think the Germans should leave the Holocaust out of textbooks too?

To be fair, the Chinese live in a delusional fantasy where they all assume they won a great victory during the war. The nonsense TV dramas and endless commemorative concerts and operas dedicated to the heroes of the war are embarrassing. So where the Japanese delete history, China shamelessly rewrites it.

Nobody seems to mention that Mao killed half his army by walking them to death aimlessly.

[Mischief Maker]

He's snarkily calling back a comment made by quash earlier about white Americans hating themselves.

[Skykid]

I missed that. This thread's too much of a glorious clusterfuck to follow comprehensively.

[Strikers1945guy]

China sounds like some sort of wealthy north Korea where you are actually free to leave. I suppose some of that depends where in China you actually live l. Hong Kong looks quite nice.

[Blinge]

China sounds like some sort of wealthy north Korea where you are actually free to leave. I suppose some of that depends where in China you actually live l. Hong Kong looks quite nice.

LOL

[Skykid]

China sounds like some sort of wealthy north Korea where you are actually free to leave. I suppose some of that depends where in China you actually live l. Hong Kong looks quite nice.

It's genuinely amazing how misinformed you guys are.

[Xyga]

It's genuinely amazing how misinformed you guys are

It's a matter of faith, can't fight that.

[Skykid]

It's genuinely amazing how misinformed you guys are

It's a matter of faith, can't fight that.

The teevee said so.

Honestly though, you stay there and let me and the very few other whiteys stay here. We're... Having a really awful time. You wouldn't like it.

So don't come kthnx.

[BryanM]

This is the part of the thread where I remind everyone that New York was never winnable due to its absurdly distant voter registration requirements. To pull a Michigan there, Sanders would have had to run TV ads in the summer of 2015, since by the time of the first debate, it was too late for registered independents and republicans to switch teams. Anyone who thought it was winnable through all the rigging was a very silly person - Thus why I put such a huge emphasis on the ides of March and Florida.

I guess we go into praying for the FBI to hurry its ass up mode now. Or get pumped for Trump.

Trump will make China great again.

[Strikers1945guy]

China sounds like some sort of wealthy north Korea where you are actually free to leave. I suppose some of that depends where in China you actually live l. Hong Kong looks quite nice.

It's genuinely amazing how misinformed you guys are.

Well I was going for a joke but everyone here takes everything so seriously. I'm not going full Minty or anything.

[Mischief Maker]

Surprised the internet has been around so long and so many commonly understood acronyms have promulgated, yet we still lack a universal symbol or acronym for denoting sarcasm.

[Durandal]

Surprised the internet has been around so long and so many commonly understood acronyms have promulgated, yet we still lack a universal symbol or acronym for denoting sarcasm.

:^)

[EmperorIng]

Surprised the internet has been around so long and so many commonly understood acronyms have promulgated, yet we still lack a universal symbol or acronym for denoting sarcasm.

I think it's sometimes better that way. It would spoil the joke if you signaled to everyone you were joking all the time. British wit floured for centuries without the sarcasm tag!

[Skykid]

Well I was going for a joke but everyone here takes everything so seriously. I'm not going full Minty or anything.

Full Minty is difficult to master. Training begins with a subscription to the Daily Mail.

That said there's no way your comment could be construed as humour when it sounds exactly like stuff ignorant people walk around saying everyday.

[quash]

It's the proverbial nail in the coffin. You realize you're the only person in the world (literally) that thinks it should be ticked in the pros column?

I recall a discussion about this in another thread where others acknowledged that Japan's population decline is far from the end of the world. Controlled immigration and incentive programs can steadily reverse course.

If Japan really thought this would be the end of their country, they'd be taking in "refugees" by the boatload. But they aren't, so what does that tell you?

MacAurthur.

They play the victim card once a year. I'll give you that - but it's the only statement you've made on this entire forum that isn't complete horse shit.

Mistaking cause for effect. Why did MacArthur spare him?

Once again: if I'm so wrong, feel free to explain why.

Because they don't hate themselves, obviously.

It's more the other way around; it's not taught to children at a young age nor constantly portrayed in media, therefore people don't develop insane victim complexes over things they didn't do.

Does that mean you think the Germans should leave the Holocaust out of textbooks too?

Not necessarily, but the way it's been taught and propagated through the media has left Germany with a crippling type of guilt. It doesn't start or end in Germany; the entire world has been unable to shake off the association with Nazis due to this. If I say "Italy", I doubt Mussolini is the first thing that comes to mind, ditto for Japan. Yet nearly a century later the entire world equates Germany with Nazism, even now that they are about as far removed from the ideology as they can possibly be.

[Rob]

insane victim complex

Sounds like Trump.

[Strikers1945guy]

Well I was going for a joke but everyone here takes everything so seriously. I'm not going full Minty or anything.

Full Minty is difficult to master. Training begins with a subscription to the Daily Mail.

That said there's no way your comment could be construed as humour when it sounds exactly like stuff ignorant people walk around saying everyday.

That was the humor in it. Anyways I definitely don't know the ins and outs of China and anything you say on the subject I listen to seriously as you are actually living there. How long are you planning on staying?

[GaijinPunch]

I recall a discussion about this in another thread where others acknowledged that Japan's population decline is far from the end of the world. Controlled immigration and incentive programs can steadily reverse course.

If Japan really thought this would be the end of their country, they'd be taking in "refugees" by the boatload. But they aren't, so what does that tell you?

It tells me to focus on the keyword of your statement: thought. And that to remind myself you were likely educated by the patriotic war machine, so...

Their demographic crisis is the worst thing they face any time soon, by far. 3rd largest economy, and it's been deflating for over 2 decades. They targeted a rise 2% inflation and didn't even get 1% after forcing tons of plans and injecting tons of dough to increase spending. They have boatloads in savings which keeps them afloat (and keeps any panic at bay b/c it's more like hang gliding into the grand canyon - which is why they don't think it's the end of the world).

Anyone with a pulse agrees on the solution: immigrants. Caveat: Japan apparently doesn't have a pulse. They make it really hard for less than stellar (read: white English speakers) to live there, and even send some on their way home... and their income tax with them. Even caregivers which is exactly what they need.

Mistaking cause for effect. Why did MacArthur spare him?

My guess is to get along with the reformation process and not have a bunch off pissed of Japanese. Japan was also pretty well known to have a military that acted on it's own since forever. Besides, it seemed he was willing to play along. Seems like the easier solution to me. Why not google around for MacAurthur's quote? I'm sure it's out there.

[Mischief Maker]

Well now a Clinton Super PAC is spending a cool million to hire professional trolls and attack Sanders supporters on social media.

Really committing to that whole "unify the party later" strategy, aren't they?

[BryanM]

Nothing new there, they've had paid astroturfers for a year now. It's really squeezing the bottom of the turnip, which just shows how much cash they have to light on fire.

Japan is a pretty good barometer for the future of all developed countries. Blowing money on stupid bullshit no one needs, that takes pumping out kids to do. The underwear I'm wearing right now is 18 years old I think.... wait no, this one is closer to 15.

That sure doesn't help generate demand in the underwear market.

Anyway, fewer and fewer people worldwide elect to become baby factories and the wage slavery that inevitably entails, so, meh.

[Rob]

Do the Trump supporters here have an opinion about his desire to eliminate all but "tidbits" of the Environmental Protection Agency?

I'm not sure how letting businesses do whatever they want with surrounding land, lakes, rivers would appeal to hunting and fishing conservatives or people who just want clean air and water.

[Mischief Maker]

Do the Trump supporters here have an opinion about his desire to eliminate all but "tidbits" of the Environmental Protection Agency?

I'm not sure how letting businesses do whatever they want with surrounding land, lakes, rivers would appeal to hunting and fishing conservatives or people who just want clean air and water.

Haven't you ever heard that environmental devastation creates JOBS, you cuck?!

And lead in the drinking water creates MORE TRUMP VOTERS!

[quash]

It tells me to focus on the keyword of your statement: thought. And that to remind myself you were likely educated by the patriotic war machine, so...

I was "educated" by the same public university system I'd wager the vast majority of people here utilized as well. I saw through the scam soon enough (3 years in) and decided it was more important to get certain goals out of the way before I became a slave to debt. Don't regret my decision one bit, virtually none of my peers are in a better situation than they were before they graduated.

Your idea of the US military seems hilariously dated; most people I work with want Bernie to win so they can go back to college before they finish their term. So much for the war machine turning us all into evil conservatives.

Their demographic crisis is the worst thing they face any time soon, by far.

They are approaching a war with China within the next five years, and here you are being alarmist about a declining population.

Deny the likelihood of it all you want, it's still going to happen regardless of whether or not you choose to believe it.

Anyone with a pulse agrees on the solution: immigrants.

It's a short sighted solution at best. Japan has plenty of people to use for unskilled labor even with a declining population, and certainly has no shortage of qualified engineers and scientists. If anything, this just gives them more incentive to develop machines to automate manual labor (which they've been doing anyways).

No argument here about the state of Japan's economy, but the question remains: what exactly do you expect to improve by allowing mass immigration?

My guess is to get along with the reformation process and not have a bunch off pissed of Japanese. Japan was also pretty well known to have a military that acted on it's own since forever. Besides, it seemed he was willing to play along. Seems like the easier solution to me. Why not google around for MacAurthur's quote? I'm sure it's out there.

Our scapegoating of Germany for WWI is literally what caused WWII. Yet we weren't so kind to them when it came to turning a blind eye to the things they did in the war, and they were certainly no slouch militarily speaking. I don't think it was fear of retaliation as much as it was a good diplomatic decision that played to public sympathy after the war.

[BulletMagnet]

The usual justification I hear for that sort of thing is basically that if it's not privately owned and profitable it's not worth saving anyway, i.e. if somebody really wants to save an endangered animal species he should be all in favor of the remaining specimens being kept and bred on a private ranch, with a handful of them set aside to be killed off via canned hunts. Or if you want clean air/water/etc. you should be in favor of eliminating not only environmental laws but all public utilities, and allow the free market to find a way to turn them, like everything else, from rights into premium, gated-off commodities. Sometimes they'll even dust off the religious right's contention that we'll all be headed to the rapture soon and the earth will be nuked anyway, so why not exploit the hell out of it while we can?

One more none-too-subtle indication of how little breathing room there is to be found between Trump and his "mainstream insider" Republican counterparts.

[GaijinPunch]

Your idea of the US military seems hilariously dated; most people I work with want Bernie to win so they can go back to college before they finish their term. So much for the war machine turning us all into evil conservatives.

I'm basing it off of military I've met from Yokosuka and similar. Unfair to say they were all jackasses... but accurate to say most of them were.

They are approaching a war with China within the next five years, and here you are being alarmist about a declining population.

You are high...

It's a short sighted solution at best. Japan has plenty of people to use for unskilled labor even with a declining population, and certainly has no shortage of qualified engineers and scientists. If anything, this just gives them more incentive to develop machines to automate manual labor (which they've been doing anyways).

...And ill-informed.

No argument here about the state of Japan's economy, but the question remains: what exactly do you expect to improve by allowing mass immigration?

The one thing they need: young people. All the scientists and engineers in the world don't mean shit. They need the young to take care of the old literally (nursing), and in the form of tax. Losing a huge chunk of it's foreign financial institutions in 2008 didn't help either.

[Strikers1945guy]

The real question: Has trump said God told him to run for president?

[Skykid]

Anyways I definitely don't know the ins and outs of China and anything you say on the subject I listen to seriously as you are actually living there. How long are you planning on staying?

When I got here I was thinking maybe a year or two, but now I just can't go back. There's nothing really to go back for. Based on things like prospects, salaries, opportunity, luxuries and quality of life, going back to the UK would be a step backward on every front. I appreciate foreigners have it good, but I can't help being white and CIS gendered. I was born this way, and therefore have a duty to abuse my privilege to the max.

That was the humor in it.

I gotcha, but just keep in mind 90% of white people are very well conditioned to believe the hyperbole of sensationalist media, so such humour (where the internet has no sarcasm monitor) is easily lost among parallel statements. Blinge's LOL response is a good example. I could be wrong but I assumed he was amused by what he perceived to be a picture of reality rather than satire.

I also feel obliged these days to qualify anything I mention about the country with 'no it's not perfect' in anticipation of respondents telling me about Tiananmen Square and Tibetans.

They are approaching a war with China within the next five years, and here you are being alarmist about a declining population.

Case in point.

[BryanM]

It was 2043. A dreadful year. The last year, for some.

China had come under power of a man named Mao Xi Jinping. Perhaps "man" wasn't quite the right word to describe him. He was produced in a biogenics program, using an amalgam of DNA sourced from many glorious leaders in The People's history. Programmed to lead a resurrection The Party, which had fallen into disruin after many decades of corruption by hookers and cocaine.

It then came to pass that he looked upon the supple defenseless island of Japan. Due to some rather pig headed and short sided policies, no one in the entire country was under the age of 60; except for about 14 white people they kept around to "teach" english. (As it has always been, their TRUE purpose was never to teach english, but rather to exist as a prop for elderly hipsters to brag to their peers about their "one white friend".)

There was gold to be had here. Gold in this country of scarce natural resources and scarcer human resources. Though the country be elderly, there were legendary animation directors that could create a huge, vibrant industry for China's urban population. And the crisis in the caretaking of the infirm elderly could employ every single one of the 950 million unemployed Chinese youths just laying around taking up space. (It was a good thing the Japanese government's attempts at solving this crisis with robots failed miserably, culminating in the Great Tokyo pudding massacre of 2039.)

However, Jinping's friendly initial advances at cooperation were shut down completely, with some crass insults about his mother being a test tube walrus tacked on for good measure. This meant war.

Japan quickly needed to build a military force from scratch, and all it had was millions of useless raisin heads who napped until 2 pm every day. Some of the more radical left (a white guy named Jorb, who was elected to the Diet by virtue of being the only person in his district who didn't die from being too damn old) suggested offering citizenship in exchange for 10 years of military service to foreigners.

He was summarily rebuffed by his peers. A program involving the training of puppies was pursued instead. The implementation of the Puppy Instrumentation Program was quickly carried out in biolabs, powered by tons of reserve protein derived from whale sperm. Japan could miraculously produce nearly 10 million puppies a day through their retooled legacy automated systems.

The kill ratios of the Grey Doge brigades were quite remarkable, far surpassing initial estimates. For every Red Army Infantryman the newborn puppies killed, it only cost Japan about 45,000 dogs in return.

Eventually after it was pointed out that this was not sustainable, not winning the war, and that almost all foreigners would be killed in combat before ever seeing a day of citizenship, Jorb's "service for citizenship" plan was finally begrudgingly passed. The final bill had many sections filled with angry rants and coarse language, and the final bill signed into law was covered in multiple pee stains, but it passed.

It was moderately effective. Many decades went by, and it was obvious conventional warfare would only lead to an endless stalemate.

"Fuck it" said Mao, but like in Chinese. He hit the red button on the radio device he always kept in his pocket. 2 minutes later, the People's Fleet of ICBM's reached the apex of their trajectory. A few minutes more, the entire island of Japan and the Japanese race were erased from existence.

If China couldn't have the lucrative Japanese anime and retirement hospice business, no one could.

[Rob]

hyperbole of sensationalist media,

Like this documentary by western propagandist Chai Jing. This is what Trump and Trump-ites are aiming for.

[Skykid]

hyperbole of sensationalist media,

Like this documentary by western propagandist Chai Jing. This is what Trump and Trump-ites are aiming for.

A response with a documentary about... China's smog.

You're hopeless boys. Keep drinking the doom-aid and never set foot outside your sacred territory. It's too dangerous. You might get carcinogens, muslimified, or pregnant with a brown baby.