Prelude to the Apocalypse

[quash]

I think you're really overthinking everything. Not everything is about information manipulation or control, most people are just acting on a basic emotional or psychological response. Same thing for you.

I agree that most people (if not everyone) base 90℅ of their lives on emotional response. I also think that this has many ways of interfering with critical thinking, and that assuming there aren't forces at play that are exploiting both of these things is very naive.

Disinformation is everywhere and it has become particularly pervasive. The average liberal will chastise anyone who thinks Obama wasn't born in the US, yet won't think twice about whether or not they've been fed a line of bullshit about the latest shooting.

You are of course also right that I too am only human, and can't completely conceal my emotional investment in things. But have I not made it clear that I enjoy coming here? Who doesn't like to be the lone ship against a shower of bullets?

(Funnily enough, I don't think my opinions on shooting games would be controversial even if I tried to spin them as such)

Saying stuff like Jones is a CIA spokesperson is most likely nonsense. He's simply a savvy business man who saw and opportunity and took it. "A fool and his money are soon parted", and all that. Maybe he has some deals with the government and other organizations, but I doubt it's anywhere near the X-Files-type shit you're suggesting it is. The dude makes bank on screaming about UFOs or whatever, and he uses that money to buy brand-name food. That's all there is to it.

The thing is that Alex Jones has leaked information numerous times in the past and has never received as much as a slap on the wrist for it. Combine this with his blatant disinformation tactics (most recently with the fly on Hillary's face, smelling like sulfur, etc.) and what conclusion is there left to reach?

He's not new to this, he's been at it for over twenty years. Before 9/11, he snuck into the Bohemian Grove and took a low quality video of one of their rituals.

Note how even you associate him as the crazy guy who yells like an anime character and talks about crazy shit. That's just the disinformation doing its job, friend. He is deeply embedded in the very community he was designed to infiltrate to make sure that nobody could even put together enough of the puzzle to figure out the real juicy stuff.

[Durandal]

I thought you were a strong proponent of defanging Russia. Shouldn't Clinton's hard-on for Russia be an attractive standpoint to you?

Why yes, that hasn't hanged why do you ask ?

Nvm, I misread something.

NATE SILVER DOES IT AGAIN

WHAT WILL THIS MADMAN DO FOR TRUMP

I've learned that the media isn't politically biased beyond all hope, but is rather adhering to a version of common sense and reality found in most liberals. The unthinkable things that are happening and will happen are only unthinkable because our idea of sanity hasn't been challenged for a long time. No wonder the media is constantly wrong on their predictions, they're still believing society at large is as logical and rational as they are.

[BryanM]

heh, new term: "Presstitute"

a version of common sense and reality found in most liberals

Please do not slander the human species. TV-land is a magical place filled with millionaires working for billionaires. They don't want for anything, so they don't see the problem with a Clinton. It's all tax cuts and upsides for them. 60% of the population hates that shit, and is reflected in Clinton's near-record disapproval rating. If "most people" hate what she stands for, how the fuck are they representing our reality?

Unless you're a sophisticated fellow and use the word "liberal" in its classical sense as I do - the "economic liberal" aka neoliberal who believes the function of society is to enrich and empower the few at the top. In which case yes, FOX News and Rush Limbaugh are the biggest liberals in town.

[GaijinPunch]

and what better way to insure that than to give the nuclear codes to someone under re-investigation by the FBI?l.

Give them to someone actually going to court for child rape and fraud.

[Mischief Maker]

and what better way to insure that than to give the nuclear codes to someone under re-investigation by the FBI?l.

Give them to someone actually going to court for child rape and fraud.

No, silly! That was all part of his secret plan to make us rich!

[BryanM]

hahaHAHAAhaha, oh, fuck me.

And again, this isn't Comey's fault. There's a lot of undecided people who make up their minds the week right before the election. Trump's support has always been more firm than Clinton's. Her polling strength has always been an inflated phantom.

I guess if Trump wins, this thread will have to be changed to acknowledge that it is Clinton who is the real American Hero Dude, and laud her destruction of the democratic party.

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That YouGov poll in Arizona is especially worthy of a 0_O. YouGov exclusively uses internet polling, so the type of older people they sample tend to lean very very slightly to the democrats. So you know we're all quite fucked now.

Megaman is jumping into the spikes.

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Shit, it would be even funnier if he picked up New Hampshire and congress elects Jeb Bush as president.

Delusional morons were right all along! quash's bloody revolutiön comes true!

Perfect ending for 2016.

[Opus131]

The scariest thing of all, is how you religious fundamentalist far-right psychos in your delirium cannot comprehend that what you want is a regime applying your ideal sharia law that'll be a thousand times more liberticide, oppressive and anti-civilization, than what any of those petty annoying people your mental condition make you see as demons from hell would ever be capable of.

People like you are immensely more of threat to any form of civilized society, save maybe a complete criminal totalitarian regime (theocracy-style in your case) than any dyed loud bitches or mexican gardeners will ever be.
But you can't see that, because you're all sick fucks who haven't had a single new idea in centuries, and proud of it, you'd be in extase just having the right to make this world a living Hell for all those you hate.

There's just one little problem here. It was us who build western civilization, and everything that's actually kinda decent about it as well, while your side gave us this kind of shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEFKFiXSx4

With stuff like mass immigration being an extension of the same type of thinking from which the above absurdity comes from.

[Bananamatic]

is anyone else going to miss the memes after the election? it was basically half of the last year's /pol/ humor

[atheistgod1999]

is anyone else going to miss the memes after the election? it was basically half of the last year's /pol/ humor

Good riddance. That's why I stopped going on there.

I made a thread there once that lasted for over 3 hours, by the way. I'll link it if I'm allowed to.

[quash]

and what better way to insure that than to give the nuclear codes to someone under re-investigation by the FBI?l.

Give them to someone actually going to court for child rape and fraud.

https://popehat.com/2016/10/31/the-fact ... ald-trump/

Who files a civil case over rape accusations, anyways?

[Rob]

And that's this:

Have to say that was a pretty entertaining game. Hadn't paid attention to baseball since the Mariners '01 season.

[GaijinPunch]

and what better way to insure that than to give the nuclear codes to someone under re-investigation by the FBI?l.

Give them to someone actually going to court for child rape and fraud.

https://popehat.com/2016/10/31/the-fact ... ald-trump/

Who files a civil case over rape accusations, anyways?

Is that a question? They file it over murder for fuck's sake.

[quash]

Given the awfully convenient timing of the charges, the dubious nature of their origins, and the evidence consisting of two (supposed) eyewitness affidavits, it's pretty clear that the best case scenario is a settlement, assuming it doesn't get thrown out before it even starts.

No need to meet the standard of proof for criminal charges when you're trying to interfere with an election.

[Bitter Almonds]

Level an accusation like that against anyone and it'll fuck him over even if it turns out to be false... which has been known to happen.

[Ed Oscuro]

It's not clear at all what the court should or will do in this case. The facts will have to come out first and it is simply premature to guess.

What we do know: The plaintiff (which also means "complainant," the equivalent role for criminal case) tried to file a case in California and it was thrown out on a technicality.

Since then seems some bozos have used this case for their own political or monetary ends, but this is not at all a sure indicator of the case's worth. It tells us that the plaintiff has not gotten quality legal help; if she is indigent, that's not surprising. We don't even know if one person who purported to have access really was a representative. With Gloria Allred's daughter now handling the case, the case should be getting handled in the way it deserves - to wherever that leads. The Guardian and Vox both have good summaries of the event, with some more editorial from Vox, building on a piece by HuffPost.

In short, "trial by media" goes both ways, and for good or bad we have a plaintiff who is simply unknown to us, against a person who has bragged about sexual assaults and has said Jeff Epstein was a "great guy" with "great taste" who likes girls "a little young." It is a little late to complain that people are out to get Trump when he has done such a good job making himself look terrible.

For "who would file a civil case," well, anybody who doesn't get justice through a criminal complaint, wouldn't you think? In some places this will be the only legal recourse due to arbitrary statues of limitations.
https://rape.uslegal.com/civil-actions-based-on-rape/

I'm sure that plenty of people remember their feelings about OJ's civil trial for murder.

Also, I had a good old time on TV and got called a snitch! More on that later.

[quash]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/12698874

The capitulation has began. The comments, as is usually the case these days, are better than the article.

[BulletMagnet]

No need to meet the standard of proof for criminal charges when you're trying to interfere with an election.

You are all being trolled.

You are all being trolled.

[Opus131]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/12698874

The capitulation has began. The comments, as is usually the case these days, are better than the article.

2016 has been the year the left lost the argument. Hilarious considering they all thought they had won once and for all and that the right could never rise again.

[HenAi]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/12698874

The capitulation has began. The comments, as is usually the case these days, are better than the article.

Let's vote in the guy who named Mike Pence as his VP, I'm sure that's going to work out just fine.

[Durandal]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/12698874

The capitulation has began. The comments, as is usually the case these days, are better than the article.

Let's vote in the guy who named Mike Pence as his VP, I'm sure that's going to work out just fine.

Interesting, and here I thought Trump's campaign manager got Pence picked over Christie because they needed someone with a clean slate, yet I didn't see any of this come up in the VP debate.

[atheistgod1999]

I already thought it would be better for Trump to be elected, but I just realized something that provides a really good reason to elect him:

If Hillary is elected, Bernie Sanders wouldn't be able to run until 2024.
If Trump is elected, however, Bernie Sanders would have a chance to run in the 2020 election.

At least, I think that's how it works.

[Mischief Maker]

I already thought it would be better for Trump to be elected, but I just realized something that provides a really good reason to elect him:

If Hillary is elected, Bernie Sanders wouldn't be able to run until 2024.
If Trump is elected, however, Bernie Sanders would have a chance to run in the 2020 election.

At least, I think that's how it works.

Assuming all the Republican-sponsored voter suppression measures inching their way up the courts aren't permanently approved by Trump's Supreme Court and Federal Court appointments and permanently change the shape of the voting map in America. Oh wait, did I bring up lifetime court appointments again? BORING!

[BryanM]

If Hillary is elected, Bernie Sanders wouldn't be able to run until 2024.
If Trump is elected, however, Bernie Sanders would have a chance to run in the 2020 election.

Good job finally catching on to the accelerationist argument we've been making for 200 pages now.

By 2024, the old man'll be dead, the internet will be locked down tighter than a chastity belt, and the thought police will turn you into spam just for thinking about voting against a rich person.

Oh wait, did I bring up lifetime court appointments again? BORING!

There's nothing boring about comparing social neoliberal justices against conservative neoliberal justices. You value gay marriage more than revolution. That's fine.

Caring about cosmetic faux-progressism that's nothing but empty lies, meh. Just remind yourself you're a hero that elected Obama and prevented our war with Iran. That wasn't supposed to be possible. I know man, I'm from the future. No known observable timeline prevented that disaster, yet here we are.

2016 has been the year the left lost the argument.

??????????? The fuck are you talking about?????????????

Are you talking about how conservative republican Hillary Clinton destroyed the democratic party from the inside out like a xenomorph?

That isn't so much "losing the argument" as it's old people deciding to indirectly elect her best friend Trump because they're morons who live in the manufactured universe of TV-land.

[Opus131]

Are you talking about how conservative republican Hillary Clinton

Called it.

[BryanM]

She really, really doesn't want you to smoke the dope, Opus.

Is it because she's a conservative and doesn't want that to be acceptable? Is it because she wants to keep putting black people to jail? Is it because of the $$$$ in her bank account telling her to oppose it?

Why can't it be all three!

[Opus131]

Things i like = liberalism.

Things i don't like = conservatism.

I don't like Hillary, therefore Clinton = conservative.

[supergrafx77]

Holy shit:

[Giest118]

Things i like = liberalism.

Things i don't like = conservatism.

I don't like Hillary, therefore Clinton = conservative.

Seeing a bit of projection, here.

[GaijinPunch]

Given the awfully convenient timing of the charges, .

Like "head of the FBI speculating 2 weeks before the election" convenient?

[BryanM]

Okay everyone. This poll will close mid-tuesday. Remember you can change your vote if you've realized the error of your ways. You're allowed to change your mind here.

I do have a massive problem. I know which poll I'll post should Clinton win. I..... have not a damn clue what question I should pose should Clinton do the impossible and jump into the spikes. Suggestions on what to poll if Trump becomes god emperor pls

I don't like Hillary, therefore Clinton = conservative.

So you're asserting Barry Goldwater is a hippy who supports the new deal. Ok jeffrey.