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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:18 pm 


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Assuming you've already edited the config file to your liking, you don't even need to know a whole lot about the command line to use Mednafen. It's literally just "cd" to whatever folder has the .exe and then running it with whatever HuCard or CD-ROM2 image you want. Super easy if you keep the folder in C:.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:18 pm 


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Ah thanks man. got Mednafen running.. Rondo is working.
But i can't remap the controller. it asks me press buttons to remap but it doesn't seem to stick, then nothing i press does anything to the game.
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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:20 pm 


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It's Alt + Shift + 1 to remap your controls. Not sure why it wouldn't stick, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:25 pm 


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Yup. I've done all that. Then nothing works.
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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:34 pm 


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That's pretty strange. Are you sure your config file isn't set to read-only or something?

Try downloading the emulator again, putting the extracted folder in the C: drive, then starting up the game and configuring controls. Be sure that your gamepad is enabled in the Virtual Input Port (it should be enabled by default), that it isn't some Administrator privileges thing, that you're locking in button assignments by pressing a button twice when prompted to assign it, etc.
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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:48 pm 


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Blinge wrote:
Ah thanks man. got Mednafen running.. Rondo is working.
But i can't remap the controller. it asks me press buttons to remap but it doesn't seem to stick, then nothing i press does anything to the game.


Try using this front-end https://github.com/AmatCoder/mednaffe


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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:10 am 


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Just use Ootake, Blinge.

It's lightweight, extremely easy to configure and, AFAIK, runs every game flawlessly. If you can't or don't want to mount your PCE CD games every time you play, Ootake has a feature that let's you install your images in your PC so it can instantly read them whenever needed.


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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:03 pm 


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Thanks for the help guys. one of the reasons i love this place.
Top lads.

... I'm an idiot. Mednefen was working fine, I just didn't realise that Rondo doesn't let you skip the long ass opening cutscene unless you have a save file. So I confused this for it not accepting my inputs.
I realised when I tried a different rom and it worked.

:mrgreen:

Ah well the front end is more convenient for me so thankyou Udderdude et al!
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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:28 am 


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For some odd reason, Mednafen doesn't like Wonder Momo, even with the non-fast PCE core.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:56 am 


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byuu, the madman, posted this on r/emulation the other day:

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PC Engine emulation basically stopped developing in the mid-2000s. The documentation is dreadfully incomplete, and the emulation accuracy is about on-par with where the SNES was at in 2004. Having an accessible, easy-to-read source code reference has value, even if it's not the most compatible or performant emulator.

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What I will say is nobody really understands the system in detail. Either emulators have hacks to run certain titles, or the edge cases just won't run. It's a surprisingly finnicky piece of hardware.


Given that Wonder Momo isn't exactly one of Namco's greatest, it could very well be one of the edge cases to which byuu is referring.
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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:24 am 


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Some good news for all of you stuck at home: the 1984 Game & Watch title Crab Grab was emulated in MAME earlier this month. Since it has never been re-released and no simulation exists of it, this is the first time the game has been made playable without actually owning the original unit.

Like all of the best Game & Watch games, this one is lightning-fast and surprisingly addictive. Very accessible, too - here's a guy rolling over the score counter on real hardware.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:36 pm 


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Uhh so i'm using XM6 emulat0r to play Akumajo Dracula x68k..

Problem is my puss3y controller is really hard to map.
The analog defaults to movement and I can jump and whip but I just don't know which buttons correspond to what. You actually have to choose which buttons from a nonsensical list, it's horrific.

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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:07 am 


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Like most X68000 games, Dracula only uses the two buttons available with the standard pad, so the simplest way to go about it would be to map whichever two buttons you want on your pad to 'Port1-1' and 'Port1-2', then set the rest to 'None'.

Are you using the TypeG build? If not, you should be!
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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:09 am 


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I don’t know what type G means..

Ah the problem is the dpad my dude. I want to use my dpad..
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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:30 am 


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The TypeG build is supposedly the more accurate XM6 fork. Since 99% of the English-speaking Internet seems to know jack diddly about the X68000 hardware I've only ever seen anecdotal evidence to back up that claim, but it's true that TypeG has never given me issues.

As for using your D-pad... I can't try it myself at the moment, but have you tried the other controller types?

If all else fails, MAME's X68000 driver is supposed to be halfway decent at this point and even has solid MIDI support. You'll most definitely be able to use your D-pad with it.
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If all else REALLY fails, get MAD GHETTO and set up keyboard controls, then bung 'em into Joy2Key. Image It's what I would do! Image
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:35 pm 


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Hahaha. That creates some input lag in my experience.

Never fear.. I realised if you hold an input down in the mapper the text turns red so you can at least tell which button corresponds to what, however it still won't pick up the dpad on my PS3 controller that's using drivers to masquerade as a 360 controller to fool steam games! fucking hell!!!

... I just realised, I'm gonna play it with my Arcade stick. That works. :shock:
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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2020 10:06 pm 


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fuck my ass when's someone gonna English patch Metal Max 2 already?
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The same day people get in the habit of distributing original disk images for DOS games from the 80s instead of install directories, that's when.

MAME does appear to have made a good amount of progress in this field, but DOS games number in the thousands.
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MAME now emulates every Game & Watch game. Not every revision, but every unique title.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:28 pm 


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Next task is emulate every Tiger G/W games, and THE WRIST GAAAAAAMMMEE
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:31 pm 


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Take me to the R-Zone. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: The State of Emulation topic
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:24 am 


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MAME is now working on animated artwork for mechanical games without graphics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjv_1fspTng

Here's the original game for comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKcN_A0_ODM

Kind of an odd direction to be going in, but you have to admit that it's pretty neat.
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Getting the rom preserved is important and the graphics will be okay for debugging and demonstration purposes. Wouldn't want any kind of emulator "playable" version tho, because it will look and feel like a terrible flash game.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:24 pm 


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Visual Pinball + PinMAME has been doing this for ages, with 3D models and everything.


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orange808 wrote:
Getting the rom preserved is important and the graphics will be okay for debugging and demonstration purposes. Wouldn't want any kind of emulator "playable" version tho, because it will look and feel like a terrible flash game.

Most of those things are the mechanical equivalents of garbage flash games.


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Udderdude wrote:
Visual Pinball + PinMAME has been doing this for ages, with 3D models and everything.


Has that gotten any better? I haven't looked into VP in some time. The physics were always pretty bad--although that's true of most of any video pinball.

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Most of those things are the mechanical equivalents of garbage flash games.


Sure, but there's a charm and spectacle to mechanical carnival games that I can appreciate.

Anyhow, nice to know that the roms will be preserved if someone needed to build a replacement for the PCB internals.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:55 am 


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Visual Pinball 10 has had vastly improved physics for years now.


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Udderdude wrote:
Visual Pinball 10 has had vastly improved physics for years now.


I'll check it out. I assume they finally got over their nasty DirectDraw issues.

I still have some old Scapino pins somewhere. Very well done.
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orange808 wrote:
Udderdude wrote:
Visual Pinball 10 has had vastly improved physics for years now.


I'll check it out. I assume they finally got over their nasty DirectDraw issues.

I still have some old Scapino pins somewhere. Very well done.


You'll want to get some newer tables made for VP 10 (They have a .vpx extension). The quality has increased enormously over old VP 9 and VP 8 tables.


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