The Evil Within

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Dusk Golem has been posting some great impressions over on Neogaf. He goes into some depth as to what the game plays like without giving away what happens or spoiling anything.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=885284&page=1

All the previews I've read about TEW don't hold a torch to this. He actually focuses on gameplay and control, a rarity these days for someone posting about a game.

On a side note, Revelations 2 has just been confirmed by Capcom. From the teaser is looks like proper zombies are back.
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dan76 wrote:On a side note, Revelations 2 has just been confirmed by Capcom. From the teaser is looks like proper zombies are back.
Not sure if they can put the genie back in the bottle. In any case, does this just mean that everybody has forgotten about RE6 entirely? Not that I'm going to complain too much, of course.

Thanks for passing on those impressions - Golem's impressions are amazing with attention to detail (I mean, who would expect to find somebody who can remember four settings for the HUD buried within a menu, and pass that along with everything else?)

From the start, I can tell that I will like the randomization and the exploration factor. In terms of atmosphere - well, I don't know how anybody could look at the screenshots of rooms full of hanging corpses and think this would be like RE4. RE4 did have quite a few corpses but it seems like this game has dialed that up much further.

I do wish the comments were clear on how the controls work. Is it like Onimusha, or what? What does each stick do and what do the buttons do? Anyway, we'll find out soon enough. Overall it sounds like a great evolution of the genre with some throwbacks for old horror game players (like the running-against-walls, heh).

Yet a part of me thinks this is just an elaborate hoax; it reads kind of like "this is what some crazy person thinks games might be like." :P
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This game looks like it's going to be great. Hopefully I can get it at launch.
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I hope the loading isn't too painful on the PS3 or Xbox 360.
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Ed Oscuro wrote:
dan76 wrote:On a side note, Revelations 2 has just been confirmed by Capcom. From the teaser is looks like proper zombies are back.
Not sure if they can put the genie back in the bottle. In any case, does this just mean that everybody has forgotten about RE6 entirely? Not that I'm going to complain too much, of course.
I still think that Leon's campaign in RE6 is better than all of RE5 and Revelations 1.
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Pretas wrote:
Ed Oscuro wrote:
dan76 wrote:On a side note, Revelations 2 has just been confirmed by Capcom. From the teaser is looks like proper zombies are back.
Not sure if they can put the genie back in the bottle. In any case, does this just mean that everybody has forgotten about RE6 entirely? Not that I'm going to complain too much, of course.
I still think that Leon's campaign in RE6 is better than all of RE5 and Revelations 1.
That's an awful thing to say. Sorry Leon, there aren't many worse things to be doing than chasing a dog in a graveyard...yes, I turned out to be fairly happy with RE6 all things considered, but Leon's campaign showed the short attention to detail much more than the other campaigns (especially early on) due to its more deliberate pace. They tried to target different markets but ended up unable to deliver to both of them, and it makes sense: Large scenes or close quarters? The crossover moments ironically ended up being some of the most memorable in the game.
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Here's a link for a chance to play the game before release in the UK.

http://www.theevilwithintour.co.uk

I got tickets for Hammersmith on the 11th of this month. Normally I avoid demos for a game I know I'm going to buy, but I really want to check out how this plays.
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First review dropped:
http://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the_e ... eview.html
Embargo issues aside, there's no evidence they actually played through the entire thing, and unless they were able to buy it substantially before release it seems unlikely this is the last word. But as a rough first go it's probably serving my needs.

I've actually watched a couple trailers on Steam now - that almost never happens - and after seeing the kind of environments and details they wanted to emphasize - hallways full of masks, and randomly-placed grinders - I've decided to put this one aside for now. Just doesn't look like the kind of thing I want to mess with right now.
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All of the recent trailers had the opposite effect on me. I wasn't looking forward to the game at all for the longest time (though I always planned on buying it because Mikami), but that changed over the last few weeks once Bethesda/Tango started pumping out trailers, behind the scenes videos, and interviews. Plus all of the positive gameplay impressions didn't hurt.
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Yep, there is no possible way that I'm not going to like this game.
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Advance warning that the game has been confirmed to feature one of those awful fixed turret shooting gallery sequences that always crops up in every modern first/third-person shooter.
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I've been watching vids of this, and unless there is some kind of compression problem in the videos, the PS3 one is one to avoid. It has tons of screen tearing. The Xbox stream I was watching ran a lot better.

Obviously PS4 and XBone are probably best, but if you don't have one...there you go.
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it's been getting mediocre scores. I read one review (wish I didn't) which instilled some hope since a lot of the complaints were about hard difficulty (awesome) and the story (aww).

I still don't put much weight into reviews and its still been my one of my most anticipated games for the past couple of years and I will be getting my PS3 copy today.

even though mikami was only a creative producer, shadows of the damned also received bad - mediocre reviews and I loved the shit out of it :P
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I read one of the reviews, and the guy mentioned that Bethesda included a note saying that reviewers should play the game on Casual difficulty, not the normal Survivor mode. :lol:
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Nice. :lol: Should've become SOP long ago.

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I've spent a little bit of time on this game and the most irritating thing about it is the very low field of view and huge black bars. Just moving and looking around is a bit of a disorienting experience.
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Can anyone confirm if the US 360 version will play on a JP system?
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I should mention that there is more feeding into my decision to put it on hold than just the prerelease info and the first review: The PC specs seem a bit outta whack, especially as Bethesda claims you need an i7 and a GeForce 4X0-ish GPU just to get 1080p out of it...at 30 fps! Given the pretty incredibly low spec of the current consoles, this is pretty strange. I didn't mind the recommended spec of a 4GB video card, given the system it comes from (adding on a pack of lower-res textures, which is what I think most other PC games do, probably would have bloated the install size), especially now that the GeForce GTX 970/980 have dropped and have proven to be a legendary release.

To finish off my off-topic digression, it was amusing that the first three comments on Tom's Hardware about the revelation of the 4GB graphics card recommended spec was "oh look, consoles are being the cancer killing gaming again." But previously that was alleged because of the low spec of consoles holding back visuals for PC gamers. Suddenly, a bunch of people got a lot more than they wanted to handle. So much for the PC gaming master race :roll:
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The game appears to be heavily bound by CPU. I'm using a GTX 670 and turning every setting to off or disabled, as well as lowering resolution to 720p did very little to improve framerate. The game only ever reaches 60fps in basically empty rooms.
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Ed Oscuro wrote:I should mention that there is more feeding into my decision to put it on hold than just the prerelease info and the first review: The PC specs seem a bit outta whack, especially as Bethesda claims you need an i7 and a GeForce 4X0-ish GPU just to get 1080p out of it...at 30 fps! Given the pretty incredibly low spec of the current consoles, this is pretty strange. I didn't mind the recommended spec of a 4GB video card, given the system it comes from (adding on a pack of lower-res textures, which is what I think most other PC games do, probably would have bloated the install size), especially now that the GeForce GTX 970/980 have dropped and have proven to be a legendary release.

To finish off my off-topic digression, it was amusing that the first three comments on Tom's Hardware about the revelation of the 4GB graphics card recommended spec was "oh look, consoles are being the cancer killing gaming again." But previously that was alleged because of the low spec of consoles holding back visuals for PC gamers. Suddenly, a bunch of people got a lot more than they wanted to handle. So much for the PC gaming master race :roll:
PC's are just being required to have higher specs so they can shovel shitty ports on everyone.
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Thing is, if you're moving the Xbox One / PS4 base games over to PC, even though PCs are generally superior there may have been some problems given their target of systems with roughly 6GB RAM available and 8 cores. I'll give them a while to see if they can't sort it out, but probably moving to the GTX 970 will fix these issues for me.
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Unfortunately, I am stuck playing the PS3 version. :(
I wanted to get the 360 version, but I believe it's region locked, since Bethesda do that constantly.

If I like the game, I will get it later for PS4(when I get one). Basically, the graphics on this version are....weak. Lots of screen tearing, and stuttering, and it just looks kind of shoddy, although you can tell there are good assets there. I have watched 720p vids of the PS4 version, and there is a HUGE gap.
One thing I figured out, that if I turned down the grain filter to zero, it looked a lot better. I'm sure the grain filter looks better on next gen, but on current...it really looked like crap to me.

I'm just starting chapter 5. Not sure exactly how I feel about the game yet. It seems "good", but I'm waiting for it to kind of blow up, or have some really killer moments happen.
Anyone clue me in, as to if it does? The NeoGaffers say it really gets wild as it goes on.

Other than the poor image quality of the version I am playing, I have a few complaints. The black bars. They suck. But whatever.
The camera is too zoomed in. I can deal with it, but it would be nice if they patched in some options.

Sebastian's movements are kinda wonky looking. Like he's got too much "spring" in his step. Looks a little silly. His other animations are fine.

That's about all I can say about it now. It's interesting, I'm just waiting for it to get wild.

However, it does take me back to the PS2/Gamecube days of Survival Horror. It's nice.
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I'm playing on the 360 - there isn't any screen tearing except for in cut scenes. There's the occasional pop up but it really doesn't distract from how great the game is.

I'm up to chapter 10, played about 12 hours. In terns of map design and pacing it reminds me of RE4, but with less gun blazing action. Very often I've found myself stuck thinking I don't gave enough ammo to do this, but then just manage to scrape through. It really makes you think (!).

Also, it's kind of old fashioned, even simple. It's great, like a best of RE with some Silent Hill and stealth mixed in. Also, I like the black bars - no problem seeing anything - though I'm playing in the dark so it just looks like a CinemaScope film.

So far I think he's pulled it off.
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evil_ash_xero wrote:Unfortunately, I am stuck playing the PS3 version. :(
I wanted to get the 360 version, but I believe it's region locked, since Bethesda do that constantly.

If I like the game, I will get it later for PS4(when I get one). Basically, the graphics on this version are....weak. Lots of screen tearing, and stuttering, and it just looks kind of shoddy, although you can tell there are good assets there. I have watched 720p vids of the PS4 version, and there is a HUGE gap.
One thing I figured out, that if I turned down the grain filter to zero, it looked a lot better. I'm sure the grain filter looks better on next gen, but on current...it really looked like crap to me.

I'm just starting chapter 5. Not sure exactly how I feel about the game yet. It seems "good", but I'm waiting for it to kind of blow up, or have some really killer moments happen.
Anyone clue me in, as to if it does? The NeoGaffers say it really gets wild as it goes on.

Other than the poor image quality of the version I am playing, I have a few complaints. The black bars. They suck. But whatever.
The camera is too zoomed in. I can deal with it, but it would be nice if they patched in some options.

Sebastian's movements are kinda wonky looking. Like he's got too much "spring" in his step. Looks a little silly. His other animations are fine.

That's about all I can say about it now. It's interesting, I'm just waiting for it to get wild.

However, it does take me back to the PS2/Gamecube days of Survival Horror. It's nice.
only had a couple hours with it last night and I'm in Chapter 6 right now, nothing too crazy but I am loving my time with it. honestly the best survival horror game for me since amnesia: the dark descent/fatal frame 4/ikenie no yoru (still haven't played shattered memories tho). It feels a lot like resident evil 4 too.

also playing the PS3 version since my computer is from 2009 and I refuse to buy a ps4/xb1 at this time.
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dan76 wrote:I'm playing on the 360 - there isn't any screen tearing except for in cut scenes. There's the occasional pop up but it really doesn't distract from how great the game is.
UK 360 or J-360?
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Decided not to buy this when I heard it has borders and can't even manage 30fps. What a shambles.
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Am I being naive or are borders a bit of an anachronism for a modern game? Is it not just in proper widescreen (none of that 16:9 crap?)
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system11 wrote:Decided not to buy this when I heard it has borders and can't even manage 30fps. What a shambles.
framerate bugs me because in three situations my game has halted/frozen for a good second before the animation went through.

the borders don't bug me at all - I kind of like it actually.

if you're on the fence about it... I would hold off until bargain bin price. But tbh.. I honestly can't wait to get home later tonight and keep playing, and I haven't been that excited for a modern game in a long time. feels nice haha
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MX7 wrote:Am I being naive or are borders a bit of an anachronism for a modern game? Is it not just in proper widescreen (none of that 16:9 crap?)
It's a deliberate artistic effect to make it feel more "cinematic."
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I have spent more than 3 hours on this game today and this is great so far. It's like Resident Evil meets The Last Of Us.
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