I love them.BIL wrote:Also got some cracking shots of frogs! ^__^Lander wrote:Ah, beautiful. A rare moment of serenity absent the hordes of bloodthirsty enemies just out of frameBIL wrote:[Tortle Soles]
Imagine if it looked like Mighty Number Nine.BIL wrote:I have never been happier to be DEAD FUCKIN WRONG than with GNGR's aesthetics.
Figured out an utterly devastating weakness in those annoying DaiMakaimura roots. 
Sweet Jebus! That woulda made things a lot easier! The designers really are nicer than you might think. 
Masterful.BryanM wrote:Imagine if it looked like Mighty Number Nine.BIL wrote:I have never been happier to be DEAD FUCKIN WRONG than with GNGR's aesthetics.
I figured it was time to ease off nicking all of your good stuff and innovateBIL wrote:Man you keep bringing that oldschool FORUM MOTICON excellence
turns out a certain browser-extenders-only Twitch cult hosts all of its goodies on public HTTP - prime real estate to sneak in and scrump a few gems.I dub thee Sir David Attenbirru.BIL wrote:Also got some cracking shots of frogs! ^__^
Well there's certainly precedent now Capcom has lost the plot and invented virtual fighting game commentators!BIL wrote:The civilising presence of an Ainsley Harriot commentary track would go pretty well with GNGR or any first-rate R2RKMF killathon tbh
Gets the blood up to tally ho and sally forth unto peril clad in gleaming plate. Zounds!Lord, perish the thought. Plasticky rim lighting and specular on absolutely bloody everything.BryanM wrote:Imagine if it looked like Mighty Number Nine.
Ech, at least I know the proper name for Corporate Abomination Art now.BryanM wrote:Warning alegria art.
Argh, I hate these things in Ghouls n Ghosts quite a lot. They have these weird invincible points on them that makes interacting with them unpredictable. I'd hate them far more than the turtles, if there were a lot more of them and they wasted more time. Nothing quite as jack-assed as shooting them all over and getting "ting ting ting" in response.BIL wrote:Figured out an utterly devastating weakness in those annoying DaiMakaimura roots.
I think the Ghouls and Ghosts/Daimakaimura roots are actually harder than the Resurrection roots. One of the few instances where this is the case. Why? Because I'm pretty sure that the roots in Daimakaimura have hitboxes as soon as they spawn. The ones in Resurrection are quite generous-it takes them a couple seconds from spawn before they gain the ability to damage Arthur. So you can rush past the wiggly hell-dick tentacles in Resurrection, but try that shit in Daimakaimura and Arthur will get sodomized.BryanM wrote:Argh, I hate these things in Ghouls n Ghosts quite a lot. They have these weird invincible points on them that makes interacting with them unpredictable. I'd hate them far more than the turtles, if there were a lot more of them and they wasted more time. Nothing quite as jack-assed as shooting them all over and getting "ting ting ting" in response.BIL wrote:Figured out an utterly devastating weakness in those annoying DaiMakaimura roots.
The sword is actually extremely effective on them, as it cleaves through their invincible bits and hits the fleshy goodness a knife or javelin might miss. The sword's actually a pretty great weapon, up until the second half of the second stage.
Stepped back and tried out Execution Yard and Town, no probs. They're wickedly tough, but geared more for arch mischief than outright punishment. Loop 1 Legend is absolutely balls-hard already, they knew they had room to offer "different" rather than just "meaner."
If they were as defensive as before, it may have caused a total crapshoot trainwreck. Good peeps. You can even launch a couple, then switch back to your main and follow them as they mow through hordes of zako. (I know it's more of an Iron Ball, but Boulder suits its mechanical action better ;3)
Reminds me of Kunochi's Hair throw from TNWA/OA. You gotta keep the three-shot limit in mind, and that same piercing makes it unsuited to speedkilling hard targets - but even one Doppelganger will give you six, and they'll smash up even the toughest buggers in short order.
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Assuming you haven't just blown your load on something else ofc!Lander wrote:I dub thee Sir David Attenbirru.
And here, we see the Arremer Demon in his natural habitat. Meditating patiently at the top of a bell tower, its bestially-sharp hearing and eyesight keeping vigil for any sign of passing royalty.
Nah, that's just DECO being DECO - goofy but harmless theyaboos. Even their Japan-only stuff is identically Reaganomic.BryanM wrote:Felt a little dirty by how much the developers debased themselves with the themes, all it needed was a South Parkian "large american penis" bit to complete; they sure had an end user in mind.
ended up employing the welwaffitm8 tac-nuke to brute force past in the end, which works in 99% of cases, but ooh that 1% and the four-ish lines of code it would have taken to fix. Speedrunning community in shambles. for posterity, the rightmost item is the one you lose.)That makes sense. I feel like enemy item pots might factor in too, since I got two successive gold armor drops from the same enemy at the same point in today's attempts, which was preceded by two chests that dropped a lance / cross (lucky!) and king statuette respectively.Sir Ilpalazzo wrote:They're on a cycle, I think. The first chest that you expose in a stage will be a weapon, the second a score item, the third gold armor (or replacement armor if you need it). It might vary from stage to stage to some degree, though: the first chest in stage 3 will give you armor if you're naked, but the chest in stage 4 will not. (The chests in Ghouls and Super are the same, with each one's contents depending on how many you've exposed in your play of that stage and your status (naked / armor / green armor / gold armor all giving differing results).
I think they found a Gordian solution to the mainstream's ancient Catch-22, re: arcade games ("Too easy, lmao!" vs "TOO HARD, WAAAAAAH"). In Legend, they designed an authentically lean, mean, uncompromising arcade game, then put a ton of permanent upgrades off to the side, to use as the player sees fit. They also added the lower tiers, plus the Banners of Resurrection and Magic Metronome, all entirely optional, and enough to keep all but the most truly indisposed player happy.Klatrymadon wrote:My only gripe with the game is a total non-issue, really. It's that the modernised structuring of the game, with its unlimited lives and Progress Pennons acting essentially as bonfires, makes the proceedings feel relatively low-stakes. Deaths feel insignificant for the most part because you're only ever a few seconds away from your next attempt at the same obstacle. Obviously, nobody wants to lose a 40-minute run to a silly mistake, and dying just short of the next checkpoint still hurts, but it feels to me as though some element of risk or investment has been lost...
(Of course, the simple solution to this is just to put my money where my mouth is and go for the 1LC...)
That was my distinct reaction to the turret-lined gauntlet of Roots, Snippers and Zombies, topped off by light/shadow camouflage, and that bell-headed bellend Marvelous Jezter - "Oof, they've finally overdone it..." and worse, I'd assumed the Dark hazard was some universally-applied trait of the Shadow Loop (fortunately it's not; the stage merely inherits the mechanic introduced in Zone 3/Grotto)Lander wrote:I think the visibility gimmick is approaching questionable with the difficulty ramped up this high. There's a specific Skeleton Murderer whose peek-out is obscured by a bush just before the manor, which coupled with the lack of audio cue, renders him essentially un-reactable if you've made the mistake of snuffing the nearest candle before scrolling forward.
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One thing I've noted is, despite its uncompromising difficulty, GnGR has never once dipped into the playthrough-killing pit of pyhrric victory. I've played easier games whose punishment tips over the unfair line - often due to some unaccounted-for edge case in design - and curses the player with the knowledge that they'll be too pissed about it to enjoy the win if / when it does come.BIL wrote:I think they found a Gordian solution to the mainstream's ancient Catch-22, re: arcade games ("Too easy, lmao!" vs "TOO HARD, WAAAAAAH"). In Legend, they designed an authentically lean, mean, uncompromising arcade game, then put a ton of permanent upgrades off to the side, to use as the player sees fit. They also added the lower tiers, plus the Banners of Resurrection and Magic Metronome, all entirely optional, and enough to keep all but the most truly indisposed player happy.
Yeah, that top line of spells is a real jaw-dropper on first look; the idea of running faster, healing, getting free powerups and coming back to life is borderline Gameshark next to the series' more traditional magics.BIL wrote:I'm glad they put the effort in, giving spells diverse cooldowns; I'd worried the upper tier would flat-out obviate the lower. Instead, it's the classic SF Alpha / Strikers 1945 II dilemma; the occasional L3 SOOPER big bang, or artfully-deployed smaller detonations? I was always more into the latter approach, enjoying regular limited boosts and making up the shortfall with a bit of improv.
Same. There was a time when I'd pick the Shun Goku Satsu equivalent on principle and damned be the consequences, but that golden [Also Affects BossesBIL wrote:I'd rather a relatively smooth trip than cyclical feast/famine. Of course, with mean enough Big Bads, the odd L3 isn't entirely out of the question. Did a panicky spray n' pray and managed to get three Arremers after you? L3 Thunder can help with that!
] opportunity comes all the more frequently when applying the right tool for the job. Back in Loop 1, I thought you were racing against time in Zone 5's upward climb. Not how it works - fortunately, with all the artillery up there in Shadow. Characteristic good humour from Fujiwara and co - even a loop of this beast is no joke - and I like the almost Colour Out Of Space (gimme that purple drank!) setup of the Shadow Loop. Looks like it explodes out of the final enemy, like you've inadvertently popped a cosmic horror pustule. Back into the breach, leal knights 
It felt no different than going balls-out on a tough checkpoint-based coinop, except GNGR's actually designed for that - no rankdowns, or powerdowns, or other annoying things that tend to make credit-feeding a distant facsimile of an unbroken run.
Yeah, I'm in a similar boat. Some evenings I just lack the energy to power through. I knew the skilled fiends in this thread (like BIL) would body Resurrection much faster than I, once they got hooked on it.Klatrymadon wrote:Excellent work, BIL! Two weeks seems quick - I'm only managing about 15 minutes a night at the moment, and it feels like I've been at the loop 1 Crystalline City midpoint for two weeks.
I'm still going slow, and occasionally being tempted by other games too.STGWeekly on youtube has an Awesome Game Replays episode where DJMikeHaggar explains exactly how the chest drop cycles work. They alternate on a cycle that varies by which stage you are on (stage 1, stage 2, stage 3 etc.) Alternate or main stage don't matter IIRC. If you check out that video then you can look at the images the dude made for chest drops.Speaking of score items, is there some known rhyme or reason to GnG chest drop logic?
It's testament to Fujiwara and his team's mirror-sheened brass balls that, even with the infinite lives setup, it was exactly like attacking the earlier games head-on. I was supposed to be finishing up the new index for the thread's big one-oh tomorrow, but didn't have any free time or energy for it. I Bob Rossed it that a long-overdue GNGR playthrough would do just as well, given the Makaimura Miscellanies thread directly inspired this one. 
Hunting down Alablasters and Hell Holes amidst these brutal stages is an interesting change of pace from pure survival/advancement. Kinda Rainbow Islands-esque in the context of a 1LC attempt, I suppose. Not unlike Saigo's Shadow Train, come to think of it!
Even if you get totally blindsided, it'll grant you a heavily-armed burst of invulnerability that might get you clear of the danger.). Lightning was great for Zone 4-1, where stray fire is lethal, and its L3 variant is an Arremer Skipper, though you must factor in the cooldown. Umbral Net was nice to have, with Shadow Loop's love of spawning BEEEEEES en masse.Yeah. I wonder how many people who had a negative reaction to GnGR had that reaction specifically because of this one section? It hits you so early and has to be defanged in such a particularly specific way... The typical noob player is probably going to die at least five times before they even understand how the spawning pattern works. To solve the puzzle will take much longer. That and the Burrito Flavor Rush are the hardest parts of stage 1.Graveyard's Giant Piranha ambush... which honestly, I consider a rare example of over-egged difficulty
Frog be like "Do it pussy ;3 ;3 ;3" "You motherf... God dammit! OK I WILL" *hop* "FUUUUUUU-" I almost wonder if it was a deliberate callback to Makaimura and Daimakaimura's respective strains of balls-hard. Dai is relentlessly volatile, but also pretty improv-friendly... Makai often demands studied, exploit-aware solutions. Learning exactly how the Piranhas work - the long cooldown after shots, and the proximity for chomp attacks - isn't something you'll be able to improv around, especially with the all-sides ambush spawn arrangement.Sima Tuna wrote:Yeah. I wonder how many people who had a negative reaction to GnGR had that reaction specifically because of this one section? It hits you so early and has to be defanged in such a particularly specific way... The typical noob player is probably going to die at least five times before they even understand how the spawning pattern works. To solve the puzzle will take much longer. That and the Burrito Flavor Rush are the hardest parts of stage 1.
BIL wrote:Frog's random hop RNG is brutal, though.
This works with Medusa, as well - Arthur's raised Billy Idol fist will go straight through the petrified target, in TRVE & HONEST KVLTIC fashion Motherfuckers kicking me in the face while their buddies unleash body-shredding shuriken flurries on my poor dizzied Ninja-kun!
Twice! Nastiest Hell Hole yet by far. This game, man, god damn it's good. 
