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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:57 pm 


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GaijinPunch wrote:
So yes, my life could be very different had I opted to actually put the work in instead of get my characters maxed out.


You mean less cool?
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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:14 am 


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GaijinPunch wrote:
So yes, my life could be very different had I opted to actually put the work in instead of get my characters maxed out.


hahaha.

I'm not tempted to play MMOs, but I have my methods of wasting time. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:29 am 


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"It's great don't play it."
Pretty much sums up how I feel about MMOs haha.

Right so I've finally eased my way into some frigid crevice :lol:

Was mapping but seemed to find the right path on my first go so that's nice.
After meeting Lutz/Noah I cheated a bit and pulled up a map of the Crevice just to check I hadn't missed any chests; cba to map if there's nothing else to find.

So an interesting point once again - I've been given the prism and told to find the Nei weapons (ffs that name)
I know from memory that there's 3-4 dungeons to get through on Dezo but interesting that the game doesn't give you an order to tackle them in.
I'm left at a strange impasse here, I could just find them and try them in whichever order.. or quickly look up the order in easiest-hardest. The question is how true to myself am I?
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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:38 am 


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Blinge wrote:
So an interesting point once again - I've been given the prism and told to find the Nei weapons (ffs that name)


Phantasy Star II was my first in the series, and I assumed the weapons were renamed in honor of Nei, especially because

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Nei's death music plays while speaking to Lutz.

Then again, maybe that's the theme playing because Lutz is sending the party on a suicide mission.


I really loved PSII's music. So simultaneously dark and weird, and really putting the new Sega Genesis synthesizer through its paces. Every time I see footage of the remake and hear the bland-ified music I cringe.
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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:44 pm 


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I've gone for "Menob" first for the Dezo dungeons, as it's called in the little Dezoris map in the manual.
Mainly because it's the closest one to a town.

Ah yeah the music's cool, just wish there was a bit more of it.
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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:10 pm 


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about the nei weapons:

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make sure you actually have the nei weapons in your inventory when you go back to the esper mansion. i stoopidly stuck one of them in the baggage room and had to travel back to get it.


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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:55 am 


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Lol that's not a spoiler.

Yeah I can see that being annoying but it's only a short trip back to Noahlutz

Just found a second storm gear in Menob. suddenly Hugh and Shir are both damage dealers!
The dungeons on Dezo are interesting lore-wise.
I wonder what the in-world reason is for their existence. They look like stone structures. How long have they been around? Centuries? Are they preserved due to the cold? does that even make sense ? :lol:
Something being an ancient ruin is a bit of a headfuck when it's in a sci-fi world.
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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:51 pm 


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Blinge wrote:
I've been given the prism and told to find the Nei weapons (ffs that name)

It's almost certainly fancruft, but I remember reading online a long time ago that 'nei' had some meaning (ultimate?) that the weapons and artificial lifeform were both referring to. Sometimes things just end up with the same name by completely different paths, though. There's no connection between the capital of France and the bitch who sniped Achilles.
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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:18 pm 


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Mortificator wrote:
It's almost certainly fancruft, but I remember reading online a long time ago that 'nei' had some meaning (ultimate?) that the weapons and artificial lifeform were both referring to. Sometimes things just end up with the same name by completely different paths, though.


It comes from Phantasy Star III's in-game dialog. Not fancruft, but not a Japanese word at all; it's just in-game lore and a probable retcon.


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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:07 am 


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oh shit :shock: :shock: :shock:

I had an excruciating decision in that battle.. Shir couldn't heal herself quickly enough to ever attack again vs the two remaining shadows. I decided to yolo it and use storm gear one last turn. killed them both.

You may think, Blinge how could you get yourself in that situation. And you'd be right.. I just didn't have the other characters at full health the whole time.. and it seems if this enemy type always focuses on one party member, they gonna die.

Shir is haunted by dead comrades back in town. when she leaves a building.. the ghostly figure of Amy seems to appear behind her for a brief moment :shock:
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or maybe it's the ghost of 'you didn't pick me for your party'
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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:28 pm 


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oh shit :shock: :shock: :shock:


Those things are the worst. Even if you pump up your party, three of them can still wipe everyone out with just a little bad luck. I got killed off twice in the Dezo dungeons from those damn things which is extra annoying because Dezo has all that forced back-tracking through the stoopid spaceport maze.

Also, I recently found the list of concept art for the enemy models. The art direction is just so damn good. It really makes the game special.

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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:23 pm 


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vol.2 wrote:
I got killed off twice in the Dezo dungeons from those damn things which is extra annoying because Dezo has all that forced back-tracking through the stoopid spaceport maze.


That only applies to one dungeon! The rest can be walked to from the nearest town. That coupled with teleporting to Skure and casting Ryuka after flying back to Dezo means you only have to navigate the station again if the dungeon you're on is Nahar

How far in are you now? I tackled Menob (hahah) first, it was fucking tough, I got so confused trying to read my own map.
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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:52 pm 


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I completed the game all the way up to the last dungeon and then had to pause on it. All of sudden, I had to help take care of Mom who just got out of hospital and my GF decided that we should choose now to break up. (it's been a long time in coming, but fuck her timing)

I'll definitely get back to it, but it might be a minute. :x


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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:02 pm 


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Ah man, sorry for the late response. Sucks to hear all that, hope your mum is alright.

I've got all the Nei items, Time to go I guess. Shir finally stole me a single moon dew at long last..

As for me, I got lost touching Menob
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Fuck this dungeon!! omg. It broke my brain trying to navigate and map its girth.

Ikuto is obviously infamous, I found it a bit easier to tackle than me nob, actually.
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The worst thing is once I realised Ikuto held the weapons, I picked up two Nei Weapons, and assumed there'd be a sword in here for ROFL. Spent ages, fucking ages, looking for the Nei Sword. It's not here. Lutz gives it to you :x
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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:27 am 


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Bruh I beat the game with my ass party, final boss took me over 20 minutes hahah holy shit.

Mischief I have to disagree, none of Anna's slashers had decent damage vs robots. only a couple that are soft targets like Wirehead.

for Mother brain/ Dark force.. man. Id have been utterly sunk without those GiRes items. May have been impossible with my party. terrible damage output, never unlocked Megido for ROFL either.
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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:36 pm 


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Blinge wrote:
Sucks to hear all that, hope your mum is alright.


Thanks, yeah she'll be okay. Just going to take some time.

Congrats on the win with your suck party. lol. It sounds like you could have done a bit of grinding at the end there though.

It's always at the very end that it becomes clear how finished a game like that is. By the very nature of that kind of game, there could always be something more to play that would tie things together by explaining a story element or making clever use of items. But when it ends, you get a pretty good gist of what they just kind of gave up on. PS2 gave me a strong feeling of "we didn't have enough time to finish this game."

Looking forward to finishing the last dungeon myself, probably can do it next week or so.


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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:33 pm 


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Gee.... what a hard choice :wink:
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:37 pm 


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Oh man. Those Japanese dating sites. If only they sent a picture the whole body.


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 Post subject: Re: Phantasy Star Series
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:20 am 


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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Damnit, when will I learn!?

I did actually choose Lena because I felt like being a muggle
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