Radio Zonde

shiftace · Post by **shiftace** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:26 am

Radio Zonde

Touring

    Name                     Type Deaths Pains         Score Choices End
 1. shiftace                Nyphn     16    44   504,581,389   1-4-6 ALL
 2. shoe-sama                Khyh      6    30   378,594,794   1-3-5 ALL
 3. SFKhoa                   Khyh     14    48   317,620,149   B-3-O   8
 4. neo                      Khyh      9    36   274,251,762   1-3-5 ALL
 5. TGK                     Hykyh      7    ??   249,332,151   1-3-5 ALL
 6. magnum opus              Khyh      9?   ??   211,xxx,xxx   1-2-5 ALL
 7. BUHA                     Khyh      9    35   172,615,842   1-4-5   8
 8. Skyline                  Khyh      7    35   144,791,583   1-4-6   7

X_Psy

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    Name                     Type  Deaths Pains         Score
 1. shiftace                Gophn       0     0    12,251,716
 2. TGK                     Hykyh       0     0    11,628,773
 3. SpooN                  Yoxola       0     3    11,274,309
 4. Skyline                  Khyh       4     5     5,857,830
 5.

U_T_N

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    Name                     Type  Deaths Pains         Score
 1. SiKrAiKeN                Khyh       0     3    65,669,156
 2. shiftace                 Khyh       1     5   159,088,456
 3. Skyline                  Khyh       2     5    42,895,526
 4. TGK                     Hykyh      23    45   106,742,832
 5.

Rules
- Please submit your ship type, score, # deaths, and # pains for all modes. For Touring mode, also indicate your route and last stage reached.
- Touring mode will be ranked by score. X_Psy and U_T_N will be ranked by deaths, then pains, and then score.
- Play in Mortal mode only. Mahilo/Yoxola are set to Immortal by default, so you have to turn that off in the Switch menu.
- No skipping stages with Esc!
- 1 entry per user per table.

Downloads
Full game from Vector (v1.41, latest)
Graphics fix for beginning of stage 1 (v1.41 only)

For more information, see this discussion thread..

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:29 am

I can't get past the first boss. Any tips?

shiftace · Post by **shiftace** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:04 am

Quick advice:

- Play as Khyh or Nyphn, they're probably the most straightforward to control. Magnum Opus beat the game as Khyh before the last forum change.
- Kill the shoulder parts before attacking the center. It's ok to hurt the center a little, but you don't want to trigger its next attacks until you're ready.
- The square shots make a loud noise when they are aimed at you, use this to time your movements.
- For the green form, first pattern, buzz the orange/purple line shots.
- For the red form, first pattern, you're relatively safe directly behind the boss.
- Try to save your bomb until the very end, the boss fires a really nasty barrage when it explodes.
- Don't feel bad if you can't beat it. This is by far the most intricate, and probably the most difficult, first stage boss I've ever seen, and it takes a ton of practice. Think about it analytically, and try to learn all the bullet patterns, one at a time.

I think I'll start a GD thread in Strategy. But not right now, it's late here. If someone else wants to, go for it.

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:44 am

hey, thanks for the advice.

yeah, this game is really fucking hard. but it's kinda nice, because sometimes i suck at everything, so if i play a game that i always suck at then i don't feel so bad!

EDIT:
i figured out how to pick the other characters. i didn't know about that! i'll have to try it out.

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:32 am

EDIT

new score

ship - Khyh

pains - 20 - fallen bodies - 5 - score - 75,985,260

sequence: 1 - path 1 - 3 - path 2 - 5

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:55 pm

damn, too bad im on a mac, will post a score when i can get my hands on a PC, definitely.

this game is great, and yes, first boss is horrible.

any differences between the underdogs version and the newer onee? what are they?
i remember playing the older version, where kyhk was a beast, they nerfed him somewhat in the version available at underdogs (mainly speed issues, he was easier to play, now he's a pain, still good tho)

shiftace · Post by **shiftace** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:01 pm

I honestly don't know any version differences. I have v1.40 from when Ballistic Zen was up. The screenshots at The Underdogs show some sort of anime background that I haven't seen before, but I don't think that background is in the version they have for download. If I had a fast connection, I could check.

Inudon Empire, the developer, has some sort of patch out for v1.41, but I don't know what it does.

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:28 pm

score - 89,391,089
pains - 29
deaths - 6

sequence - 1, path 1, 3, path 2, 5

stage 5 is hard!

shiftace · Post by **shiftace** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:29 pm

Nice progress! I happened to get to the end of stage 6 last night, so I had some score improvement, too. Stages 5-7 get brutal with impossibly fast attacks that you -have- to know about beforehand.

122,973,034 / Nyphn / 7 deaths / 25 pains / 1-4-6

(I omit path 1/path 2 in the sequence section because they're mandatory stages. Not a big deal, just sayin.')

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:52 am

right when i thought I was gonna somehow miraculously going to pass you up you had to go and do that!

lol good job. i wish more people would play this game. it's awesome. And yeah from what I saw of stage 5, it was rough. Stupid spinny things ate me for breakfast. The background was badass though.

I still like being Khyh, Nyhn or whatever his/her/its name is moves around too fast for me.

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:52 am

Skyline - 144,791,583 - Khyh - Route 1-4-6 (Reached Stage 7) - 7 Deaths - 35 Pains

That Stage 6 boss is effing BRUTAL. Until you use your bomb. :B

X_PSY

Skyline - 5,857,830 - Khyh - 4 Deaths - 5 Pains

U_T_N

Skyline - 42,895,526 - Khyh - 2 Deaths - 5 Pains

And I'm dead certain that the verbal pronunciation of the word "Khyh" sounds the same as a cat coughing.

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:04 am

yay i did it

ship: Khyh
pains 26
deaths 6
score 103,480,770
1-3-5

got up to the boss and he was mean.

shiftace · Post by **shiftace** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:18 pm

Cool. I hardly know anything about stage 5, I always picked 6 because (1) it didn't seem to need as much memorization and (2) I love the artwork.

I made it to stage 6 with Gophn, 96,926,536, 6D/18P, 1-4-6, not as good as Nyphn. You really need to have a plan to use Gophn, but it is the strongest ship by far. It's insane fun if you map out the levels and come up with a detailed plan.

Improved X_Psy: Gophn, 2D/4P, 6,268,145

And, I am in awe of Skyline's U_T_N score.

SpooN · Post by **SpooN** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:19 am

Weird. I suck in evry other mode of the game but x_Psy seems very easy to me:
SpooN - Yoxola - 0 Deaths - 3 Pains - 11,274,309

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:57 am

huge increase in score

score 104,183,180
pains 21
deaths 6
1-3-5

Khyh

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:20 am

Tried out a new strategy...would have gotten a lot more if I woulda strayed clear of death once in a while. :/

U_T_N

Skyline - 75,210,629 - Khyh - 4D 9P

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:07 pm

U_T_N
SiKrAiKeN - 93,364,496 - KHYH - 5D 12P

Come on Skyline.

SpooN · Post by **SpooN** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:56 pm

@SiKrAiKeN: X_Psy and U_T_N will be ranked by deaths, then pains, and then score.
If this would be not the case I would post this (be prepared for abuse):
SpooN - 140,009,287 - Hykyh - 22D/45P

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:43 pm

SpooN wrote:@SiKrAiKeN: X_Psy and U_T_N will be ranked by deaths, then pains, and then score.
If this would be not the case I would post this (be prepared for abuse):
SpooN - 140,009,287 - Hykyh - 22D/45P

SiKrAiKeN - 204,487,282 - HYKYH - 16D/57P

Yeah, I realize how Hykyh works. We can't really rank by death/pain/score though; the more pains you get, without dying, the faster your clock increases.

shiftace · Post by **shiftace** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:54 pm

I think U_T_N works much better as a survival/zanki attack than as a score attack, so I'm going to leave the ranking alone unless people are really unhappy with it.

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:58 pm

U_T_N
SiKrAiKeN - 65,669,156 - KHYH - 0D 3P

I hate playing this mode without going for score :/ Can't we have the scoreboard go by deaths, then score, and pains don't matter?

magnum opus · Post by **magnum opus** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:37 pm

yeah my computers down for the moment so i don't have my exact old score but it was about 21(1/9),000,000 with 11 deaths, 1-2-5-7-8, khyh. or something like that bit over 200,000,000 whatever it was.

shiftace · Post by **shiftace** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:19 pm

First, my latest scores:

Touring: Nyphn, 7D/22P, 128,077,981 1-4-6
X_Psy: Gophn, 0D/2P, 11,627,592 (yay me!)
U_T_N: Khyh, 9D/20P, 38,859,193 (oh, I still suck)

SiKrAiKeN wrote:U_T_N
SiKrAiKeN - 65,669,156 - KHYH - 0D 3P

I hate playing this mode without going for score :/ Can't we have the scoreboard go by deaths, then score, and pains don't matter? :D

I'm personally against doing that, although it's kind of an arbitrary thing. Keeping the rules simple, not pushing the stage any more in favor of Khyh, etc.

magnum opus wrote:yeah my computers down for the moment so i don't have my exact old score but it was about 21(1/9),000,000 with 11 deaths, 1-2-5-7-8, khyh. or something like that bit over 200,000,000 whatever it was.

Was that your game clear score, or high score? Also, if I understand extends correctly (25M first, +28M after), you can't die 11 times unless you get 221M. Anyway I posted it as All Clear, because I clearly remember you won in the last forum.

magnum opus · Post by **magnum opus** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:18 pm

it was both my highest scoring run and my completing run, I don't think i got 220, i might have only died 9 times.

lets see, two or three deaths on the boss, a couple deaths on level seven's boss. probably a death or two in level 5 and then maybe a death on the tail end of level one or two. so yeah maybe 9 deaths. damn i wish i could get at it.

hey does any one remember that site with the superplays?

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:56 pm

shiftace wrote: I'm personally against doing that, although it's kind of an arbitrary thing. Keeping the rules simple, not pushing the stage any more in favor of Khyh, etc.

It applies for any character you use. If you get a pain, your clock increases a lot faster until your lifebar fills back up completely. Of course, if you die, your clock is cut in half.

shiftace · Post by **shiftace** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:49 am

I think the fact that all the entries in the score table are Khyh suggests that the stage favors Khyh. Maybe because its tight shot poops powerups out of the target so fast, maybe because Hykyh/Khyh have faster bomb recharging per hit than the other ships. Any ship should be able to clear the stage with no deaths and no pains (good luck demonstrating that), but scoring abilities seem very uneven. On my first or second run as Khyh, I had about 15 deaths, but outscored my best run as Nyphn, with 14 deaths, by more than double. So I do think that raising the importance of score would favor Khyh.

I can't find the superplay site any more. Actually, some of the replays looked so frame-perfect that I wonder if the maker(s) didn't use a hex editor to "improve" them. It'd be a lot of work, but it's possible.

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:36 pm

heehehehehaaahahaa

Ship Khyh
pains 28
deaths 8
score 141,492,263
1-3-5-7

got to the boss on 7

shiftace · Post by **shiftace** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:03 am

Ugh. The stage 6 boss kicks my ass hard, damn homing missiles. But I finally scraped by with one life and promptly got rammed in stage 7.

Touring: Nyphn, 8D/26P, 154,667,625 1-4-6-7

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:12 am

Impressive. I can't do a damn thing with Nyphn.

shiftace · Post by **shiftace** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:04 pm

What's really ridiculous is that I currently have a better high score for Gophn than Khyh. Shows what practice will do for you.

Stealth edit: Nyphn / 162,855,661 / 8D / 25P / 1-4-6-7