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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:00 am 


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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:00 pm 


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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:27 pm 


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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:41 pm 



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Original Arcade - Type-Z
Giygas - 934,093,154,370 - EX BOSS 2 - x21949 - World Ignition [v1.05]

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Shame this didn't end up being my first 1CC. Gonna be disappointing if my first 1CC isn't even my highest score.


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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:33 pm 


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x91 - 4,757,613,357,250 - ALL CLEAR!! - x47755 - World Ignition [v1.05]

For the record.

There's lot of space for improvements in last 2 stages indeed, a 600b stage 4 and 1.5t stage 5 is really... underwhelming, speaking of scoring. Sadly I have lost motivation.

Next time when I pick it up, I guess referring to the superplay won't hurt much.
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:26 am 



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Ok, I'm going to let my score updated here as well.

Arcade Original - Type I
resty - 3,785,460,822,600 - STAGE 5 BOSS - x46827 - World Ignition [v1.05]

Need to take some time to learn to deal with bosses and some problematic spots. And try if I can get a clear.

Arcade Original - Type Z
resty - 1,992,765,369,240 - STAGE 5 - x31575 - World Ignition [v1.05]
Just few random runs, follow my Type I route.


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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:10 am 


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Unlimited - Type Z
Jaimers - 5,069,078,396,190 - STAGE 5 - x53658 - World Ignition [v1.05]

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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:12 pm 


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Jaimers - 5,857,897,024,150 - ALL CLEAR!! - x51983 - World Ignition [v1.05]

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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 3:53 pm 



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It's been awhile since I last posted. I'll put up a recent PB I got in this game.

Time Attack - Type-III
Mr12Inches - 77,547,260 - MASTER++ - 3097 - ver. 1.05

Proof: https://youtu.be/19QP85vXzUw
Apologies if my video proof isn't up to your quality standards. I don't think I can upload anything higher than 360p right now.
If you have any disputes, PM me and I can send you a higher-quality video rip (or even the replay) of the run.

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I have a lot more free time this summer, so this won't be the last score I put on this forum.
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:31 am 



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Here's another recent PB I got in this game. Apologies for the double post / necro.

Time Attack - Type-Z
Mr12Inches - 91,869,290 - MASTER++ - 3435 - WORLD IGNITION [v1.05]

Proof: https://youtu.be/jymiQpAe-m4
Apologies if my video proof isn't up to your quality standards. It should be in 720p60fps, but depending on when you access the video it might not be.
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I'd like to optimize this run further; I don't think this run is clean enough to consider this finished yet. As I figure out more strats for this shot type and get better at the run, I'll update the thread with more scores.
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:21 am 



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Guess I'll triple-post and add more scores to this thread.

I got this one last Sunday:

Time Attack - Type-Z
Mr12Inches - 92,706,200 - MASTER++ - 3511 - WORLD IGNITION [v1.05]

Proof: https://youtu.be/5FjkM75FhDc
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I got this one on Thursday night (today on my side of the globe):
Time Attack - Type-III
Mr12Inches - 82,215,570 - MASTER++ - 3310 - WORLD IGNITION [v1.05]

Proof: https://youtu.be/DYPaiF3hXAI
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I'm clawing up the ranks.
Expect more scores from me in the near future. I'm not done yet!
(scores should be accurate)
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:00 pm 


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Time Attack - Type Z
CRI - 76,436,480 - x 3155 - World Ignition [v1.06]
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:47 am 



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I got this on July 14th of this year, but I completely forgot to record and post this somewhere. I guess I'll necro this thread and do it now before I forget again.

Time Attack - Type-Z
Mr12Inches - 95,244,760 - MASTER++ - 3498 - WORLD IGNITION [v1.05]

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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:25 pm 



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Novice Original - Type-III
kobepilgrim - 1,040,663,151,370 - ALL CLEAR!! - x14880 - World Ignition [v1.06]

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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
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Unlimited - Type Z
Satis - 6,368,857,990,570 - ALL CLEAR!! - 51814 - World Ignition [v1.06]

First clear, no-miss TLB, not even pb.
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:56 pm 



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Unlimited - Type Z
Satis - 8,595,958,936,330 - ALL CLEAR!! - 56532 - World Ignition [v1.06]

You could actually think I'm trying to score now, maybe 10 trillion one day.
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:29 pm 


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Cool. Added an extra space in case 10b does occur.
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
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Unlimited - Type Z
Satis - 9,993,102,389,250 - ALL CLEAR!! - 62502 - World Ignition [v1.06]

ended up being the final product for now, type-II some other day Video


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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
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Original Arcade - Type Z
Radyum - 1.485.908.962.200 - EX2 - x24649 - World Ignition [v1.05]


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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:42 am 



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Boost Novice - Type Z
Radyum - 3.407.774.910 - ALL - 37:20:90 - World Ignition [v1.05]

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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
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Original Novice - Type I
Radyum - 1.490.708.665.150 - ALL - x21726 - World Ignition [v1.05]


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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
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Time Attack - Type Z
Radyum - 78.756.110 - ALL - x2933 - World Ignition [v1.05]


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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:14 pm 



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Unlimited - Type I
Satis - 9,852,407,046,370 - EX BOSS2 - 71701 - World Ignition [v1.06] pic
Unlimited - Type II
Satis - 10,499,978,373,230 - ALL CLEAR!! - 80222 - World Ignition [v1.06] VOD
Unlimited - Type III
Satis - 6,154,915,698,420 - STAGE 5 - 61083 - World Ignition [v1.06] pic
Unlimited - Type Z
Satis - 10,185,049,553,940 - ALL CLEAR!! - 57904 - World Ignition [v1.06] pic

To fill the board a little I suppose.
Been derusting recently, playing around mostly in practice but did a handful of credits with the ships to decide what I'm gonna stick with, nothing serious yet. I'll stick with Type-II unless it turns out to be too impossible for me. Gonna rant about each ship quickly, even if no one probably cares. From an Unlimited perspective since I've never played any other mode. Feel free to ignore.

Type-I is pretty amazing, while it has somewhat low gauge generation, low movement speed and a pathetic shot, the lock (by far the most important part) is the best in the game and gives you a fairly good experience on the stage portions. The bosses are kind of a pain in the ass, mostly stage 2 and 5 bosses, my routes are a little shit on these bosses in general however so I'm not sure how true that is. Pretty much every flaw it has is non-existent (power still on the lower side) in double break, if you can get your double break it's smooth sailing ahead. Above all it's just an easy ship to play.

In theory Type-II should be superior to Type-I in every single way but the lock-on. Except not really, the ship is extremely clunky and you have to pay extra attention to your options for anything to work properly. It doesn't sound so bad until you realize Unlimited has a lot of movement and lock-on usage, lock holds the options in place, which is nice but if you're holding it all the time when do you have time to reposition them? It's not all bad though, like I said earlier it has pretty high specs and it has a similar stage experience to Type-I and better boss performance, if you figure this ship out I think it might be better than Type-I but the road there is rocky to say the least. I'm not even close.

Type-III. It's fast, and that's about the only thing it has going for it, and the use of this 'speed' (TL note: warping) is situational. The shot is fairly strong but it has no width and the break gauge generation is truly abysmal, it does not get worse than this. The lock is where this ship is confirmed as trash for this mode, it does not generate break gauge or break rate, it has no range, and the locking on itself is extremely slow. Unfortunately it can still get worse, the lock has a large delay between release and actual hit on the enemy, cancels have never been this "exciting". All the stage portions are just bundles of pain and the simplest things are now inconsistent messes. Atleast bosses are go- no they're terrible, the break generation means the breaks are always too late, you can pointblank all you want but they'll still be late or straight-up non-existent. I did find the stage 4 boss milk pretty comfortable with this ship however, one of the best at this.

Type-Z is just the best at literally everything in the game, it's a fast Type-I on steroids. The only downside is the reduced break rate gain, which means mistakes are more costly, especially on stage 4, it's very difficult to raise the break rate on the bosses as easily as every other ship and dying before the stage 4 boss is a terrible mistake, it takes too long to get the break rate back up to it's previous value and you end up not getting that many points regardless of how well you play after the mistake. Break rate reduction means it also scores less overall, but this is not an issue as ship scores are hardly comparable.

Rant over, sorry to anyone who read it.


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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:16 pm 


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I find the insight on the ship types interesting to hear from a high-level player. Thanks.
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:08 am 


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Thank you for the scores and for the information! Not terribly surprising, especially poor Type-III.
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
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Battletoad - 744,212,699,880 - Stage4 - x29170 - World Ignition [v1.06]

Just got this - my best score by far. The second half of stage 3 is an absolute nightmare compared to the original Crimzon Clover. This is the first time that I somehow got through decently. :lol:

Or maybe I'm just a little rusty...
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The original version is somewhere between Novice and Arcade, I think. Mostly. WI makes you stronger and makes it easier to grab stars.
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
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Yeah the second half of stage 3 is a lot harder in World Ignition, it's not just you. Like Despatche said the doujin version is between Novice and Arcade difficulty. Among other changes, there's a bunch of extra enemies and fewer extends. It's more of a jump from the doujin version to WI if you're used to playing Type Z, since WI toned down how overpowered that ship was.
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 Post subject: Re: Crimzon Clover for NESiCAxLive/World Ignition
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Time Attack - Type-Z
CloudyMusic - 81,100,610 - ALL - 3139 - World Ignition [v1.06]

Going to keep working a bit more. What a satisfying mode, though.
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