Viper Phase 1

[Despatche]

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3 lives, Normal difficulty. Internal autofire adjustment (New Version) and external autofire are both allowed. Please note what total autofire settings you've used.

New Version is a very different version of the game. Non-Japan boards loop, so those are being split as well. "USA Version" is supposed to be identical to non-Japan boards of New Version.
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Post scores in this format:

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VERSION - REGION
NAME - SCORE - STAGE - PLAYER SIDE - AUTOFIRE - DETAILS

DETAILS is for what model of console and release of cart/disc, or what emulator and version. Use No/Int./Ext. etc for AUTOFIRE. If you're playing a non-Japan version, please mention which region you used.
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Viper Phase 1
Japan board
Other board

New Version
Japan board

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 1. Raiden Fighters 2 - 14.924.503 - ALL - 1P - Yes  - PCB
 2. Maucast           - 12,633,935 - ALL - 1P - Ext. - MAME v0.219
 3. maximo            -  7,790,142 - ALL - 1P - Yes  - ARCADE v0.239
 4. CIT               -  5,176,792 -  7  - ?? - Yes  - MAME
 5. MJR               -  4,934,820 -  5  - ?? - No   - PCB
 6. edusword          -  4,858,092 -  5  - ?? - No   - WolfMAME v0.147
 7. Ruldra            -  4,068,669 -  5  - 1P - No   - ShmupMAME v3.0b
 8. saucykobold       -  2,928,597 -  4  - ?? - Yes  - MAME
 9. CHI               -  1,929,728 -  3  - 1P - Yes  - MAME32 Plus! v0.109u3
10. spadgy            -  1,536,270 -  4  - ?? - No   - PCB

Other board

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 1. maximo            -  8,757,966 - 2-3 - 1P - Int. - ARCADE v0.239
 2. volaju            -  6,594,989 - 1-7 - 1P - Int. - GroovyMAME v0.164 (World)
 3. Ruldra            -  5,091,752 - 1-6 - 1P - Yes  - ShmupMAME
 4. SFKhoa            -  3,438,214 - 1-5 - ?? - Yes  - MAME
 5. kemical           -  3'265'271 - 1-4 - ?? - ???? - PCB (Unknown version)
 6. The Coop          -  2,350,497 - 1-4 - ?? - ???? - MAME
 7. RFP               -  2,335,913 - 1-3 - 1P - No   - MAME
 8. DocHauser         -  2,303,948 - 1-4 - 1P - Yes  - ShmupMAME v4.2
 9. kidpanda          -  1,988,324 - 1-4 - ?? - ???? - PCB (Taiwan?)
10. unsane            -  1,844,365 - 1-3 - ?? - No   - MAME
11. Ed Oscuro         -  1,589,695 - 1-3 - ?? - ???? - MAME (World)
12. Edge              -  1'285'232 - 1-3 - ?? - ???? - MAME
13. MJR               -  1,253,252 - 1-3 - ?? - ???? - MAME
14. AAP[P_HAT]        -  1.222.091 - 1-3 - ?? - ???? - MAME

[Ruldra]

New Version (Japan)
Ruldra - 4,068,669 - 5 - 1P - No - ShmupMAME v3.0b

After some 10 hours of play, only now I'm feeling like I'm getting somewhere. Learned the patterns of the stages 2 and 3 bosses and 100%s are more frequent now. I never managed to get past the stage 5 boss though, I literally have no idea what comes after him.

Interesting tidbit: I remember sikraiken saying in the old STGT thread that stage 4 is impossible to 100% because some enemies don't appear (more specifically, after the medal rain part, some tanks are missing on the right side of the screen). If you boot up Old Version and let the attract mode run for a while, you'll see those tanks appearing normally.

[Despatche]

Yeah, the stage 4 issue shows up here too. I should have known it'd be something they broke in NV!

[CHI]

Edit: I will get past stage 3 one day

New Version (Japan)
CHI - 1,929,728 - 3 - 1P - Yes - MAME32 Plus! 0.109u3

[MJR]

I still have the number 2 spot on this? And I thought I sucked at this game.
Nice to see there is still some life on this thread, maybe I'll dust PCB again some day.

[DocHauser]

New Version (World)
DocHauser - 2,303,948 - 4 - 1P - Yes - Shmupmame 4.2

There's a score for the other board in that picture as well, but since it sucks you can ignore it

[Despatche]

Are you sure that's the Japan version? The Japan version doesn't loop.

[DocHauser]

Sorry Despatche, just saw your post here. You're right, it should be World instead of Japan (edited now).

[Raiden Fighters 2]

Hello everyone I present here my record video from 13,769,107 to VIPER PHASE 1 NEW VERSION, could be a 14 million game but I will try to improve and to learn some things better to get to 15,000,000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS1kPdH ... r3qhrx5h04

[Raiden Fighters 2]

New record by Raiden Fighters 2 _ DGN _ Nicoal De Guidi

VIPER PHASE 1 NEW VERSION
PCB ARCADE
14.924.503

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7FZi1lo_N4

[ProjectAKo]

wow, you did it

[Perikles]

New Version - Other board



Perikles - 12,205,087 - 2-4 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2

Video

What a magnificent game. I had it on my list of shmup desiderata for a while, but probably wouldn't have played it for quite some time if not for a friendly competition where it was picked as the game of choice. It's easily top 25 material for me, quite possibly even top 10. Not only does it showcase Seibu's consuetudinarily superb destruction aesthetics, it's also by far the most fun I've had with any of their games yet. I got a certain Image Fight feeling out of the extreme violence you have to exert all the time, either kill vital threats immediately or get killed. À la bonne heure!

Was on the brink of a meltdown when I foolishly picked up a laser in stage 6, wasn't quite able to keep my nerves down after that. Even switched to the wrong weapon in stage 8, again! Should've gotten to 2-5 at least, was not expecting the 2-4 boss to sport projectiles this fast, though (never played the second loop before). Will most certainly return to this game, I think I'll stick to the Japanese version and the single loop, the perfectionistic scoring system is tailor-made for that.

[Ruldra]

Might as well post mine too.



New Version - Other
Ruldra - 5,091,752 - 1-6 - 1P - Yes - ShmupMAME

[volaju]

I have played since a couple of week and hope to reach STAGE 6

New Version (World)
volaju - 4,176,095 - 5 - 1P - no external autofire - groovyMame 0.164

[volaju]

Not yet STAGE 6 but close

New Version (World)
volaju - 4,841,426 - 5 - 1P - no external autofire - groovyMame 0.164

[volaju]

First No miss no bomb BOSS 4, +5M and STAGE 6 are very close

New Version (World)
volaju - 4,947,642 - 5 - 1P - no external autofire - groovyMame 0.164

[volaju]

+5M and STAGE 6 done
New Version (World)
volaju - 5,586,830 - 6 - 1P - no external autofire - groovyMame 0.164

[volaju]

Finally reach stage 7

New Version (World)
volaju - 6,240,273 - 7 - 1P - no external autofire - groovyMame 0.164

[volaju]

Not yet STAGE 8 but close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TyqXLiiNJc


New Version (World)
volaju - 6,594,989 - 7 - 1P - no external autofire - groovyMame 0.164

[Jeneki]

Thanks for the video. Non-autofire replays for Seibu games are rare.
*edit* External autofire, that is.
*edit* That was just a compliment. Not trying to start drama.

[volaju]

Thanks for the video. Non-autofire replays for Seibu games are rare.

You are welcome, I use the autofire included in the game which is very fast on my opinion, I don't understand why people use an external autofire like mame/reco , for my concern, I think it's like a cheat...
I played few runs with autofire delay 1 (rate which is physically unreachable) on mame, it's clearly a huge advantage

I think the score board should be splitted, original autofire and external on the other side

[Despatche]

Non-autofire replays for Seibu games are rare because trying to play a Seibu game without autofire is fucking insane. That's why Seibu added the autofire settings for New Version. Viper Phase 1 New Version is the only Seibu game that has something vaguely resembling internal autofire.

Can we please not have this discussion ten years after the fact? Pretty much every old game benefits from autofire in a huge way, this is really old news. At the same time, autofire isn't "cheating". It's not cheating for Darius Gaiden, it's not cheating for Slap Fight, and it's not cheating for Viper Phase 1. I don't actually have a problem with splitting for autofire, and I'd like to be able to do that more in the future, but there are so few scores that it doesn't really matter. It's not like splitting for character where you are literally playing a completely different game. The Slap Fight thread was a special case and I'd much prefer it to stay that way right now.

I don't even know what to split for, because a bunch of people just put "Yes" without saying what they actually used. volaju is the only person to actually say they used the internal autofire. That doesn't even clarify which speed was used, because I hope that everyone actually using internal autofire is setting it to Hi and nothing less. Apparently that won't be the case.

[volaju]

I understand the problem, a lot of score already posted with no detailed info, pity that we allowed external autofire since the start , for once we had a seibu shmup with an included one....

But I'm not at all against autofire (it's the opposite), I use it when I think it's shame that a shmup don't include it (seibu games except VP1 for examples) and above all, I limit it to a physically reachable rate

In conclusion, in that particular case, it's cheating for me but it doesn't matter and I will continue to enjoy playing it and trying to 1CC it

[MauCast]

New Version - Japan
Maucast - 9,034,728 - 7 - 1P - Yes - MAME 0.219

[MauCast]

New Version - Japan
Maucast - 12,633,935 - ALL - 1P - Yes - MAME 0.219



No miss, but three big mistakes where made;
-Missing 1 enemy on Stage 6, losing the 100% bonus.
-Accidentally picking the Yellow M (missile) power-up in Stage 7, resulting in the use of 2 unplanned bombs.
-Destroyed one of the parts of the Stage 7 boss early before damaging them one by one, resulting in 2 bombs.

[maximo310]

New Version - Japan
maximo - 7,790,142 - ALL - 1P - Yes - ARCADE 0.239

Replay

Used 30 hz on button 1 for big enemies/bosses; internal auto ( aka HI SPEED in dips/default) on the rest

[maximo310]

Other board (VP1 New Version, World)
maximo - 8,757,966 - 2-3 - 1P - Yes - ARCADE 0.239


Replay
Used 30hz on button 1 along with internal autofire on button 1 ( hispeed/default). Made it into the loop with 1 extra life, but made dumb mistakes on 2-2 boss & mid 2-3.

[MauCast]

New Version - Japan
Maucast - 15,056,586 - ALL - 1P - Yes - MAME 0.263 VID

not over yet, I died on the last boss :senile:

[MauCast]

New Version - Japan
Maucast - 15,370,632 - ALL - 1P - Yes - MAME 0.263 VID

[copy-paster]

Congrats for the first person in the community who break the 15mil barrier in the game. Inb4 new PB in the making on the Slam 7