Under Defeat

Despatche · Joined: 02 Dec 2010 Posts: 3757

Previous threads: 1 2
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Defaults, as always. Auto-recentering only, do not enable dual stick, and do not play Extra Mode. The new copters in HD are being split. Note whether you played in horizontal or vertical mode, if you can.

I'm assuming these are all DC scores; what I'm reading implies HD is a bit weird but it's not enough to split, I don't know. Same with screen orientation or whatever else. I know I'm forgetting something, please help me out here.

Obviously you can and should use dual stick for New Order; apparently that wasn't already obvious enough, seeing as New Order is a no-man's land right now. (can i please get some real information on this stupid port already)
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Please post scores in this format:

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MODE
NAME - SCORE - STAGE - ROTATION - PLATFORM

ROTATION is for normal/reverse movement, not for the screen. "2-0" is a 1-ALL.
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Arcade
VKL5.03

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  Kiken            - 6,324,960 - ALL - Normal            - DC 
  Stevens          - 5,493,670 - ALL - Normal            - DC 
  Erppo            - 5,457,920 - 2-5 - Normal            - 360
  IlMrm            - 4,617,550 - 2-5 - Normal            - DC 
  Aquas            - 4,502,730 - ALL - Reverse           - PS3
  iconoclast       - 4,476,440 - 2-4 - Normal            - 360
  BBH              - 3,925,240 - 2-4 - Normal            - DC 
  Kollision        - 3,826,880 - 2-3 - Normal            - DC 
  cactus           - 2,923,890 - 2-2 - Normal            - DC 
Randorama        - 2,912,100 - 2-4 - Normal            - DC 
Ratikal          - 2,678,080 - 2-1 - Normal            - 360
SHwo King        - 2,502,510 - 1-5 - Reverse           - DC 
Blinge           - 2,497,700 - 2-1 - Normal            - PS3
The Allett       - 2,487,750 - 2-0 - Reverse           - DC 
BonusJZ          - 2,437,360 - 2-0 - Normal            - DC 
Damocles         - 2,425,800 - 2-0 - Normal            - DC 
Bill             - 2,210,010 - 1-5 - Normal            - DC 
Arvandor         - 2,135,170 - 1-5 - Reverse           - DC 
winteR           - 2,051,040 - 2-0 - Normal            - DC 
TOM              - 2'039'430 - 1-5 - Normal            - DC 
Wes112           - 2,030,630 - 1-5 - Normal            - PS3
LordHypnos       - 2,002,710 - 2-0 - Reverse           - 360
big_aug          - 1,952,530 - 1-5 - Reverse           - DC 
AndyWeil         - 1.911.790 - 1-5 - Normal            - DC 
CRI              - 1,877,600 - 1-5 - Reverse           - DC 
mulletgeezer     - 1,847,000 - 1-5 - Normal            - DC 
DTP              - 1,841,020 - 1-5 - Reverse           - 360
CIT              - 1,826,390 - 1-5 - Reverse           - DC 
Kaede            - 1,816,330 - 1-5 - Normal            - DC 
Battletoad       - 1,773,250 - 1-5 - Normal            - DC 
LOU              - 1,733,910 - 1-5 - Normal            - DC 
d-ku HyRyu       - 1,728,370 - 1-5 - Reverse           - DC 
it290            - 1,727,330 - 1-5 - Normal            - DC 
Willei           - 1,676,540 - 1-5 - Reverse           - DC 
d-ku YAN         - 1,675,240 - 1-5 - Normal            - DC 
tek              - 1,633,040 - 1-5 - Normal            - DC 
Neovanglist      - 1,628,540 - 1-5 - Reverse           - DC 
Neon             - 1,618,130 - 1-5 - Normal            - DC 
antares          - 1,406,780 - 1-4 - Normal            - DC 
dmauro           - 1,397,340 - 1-4 - Normal            - DC 
Kiel             - 1,352,700 - 1-4 - Reverse           - DC 
MGN              - 1,322,370 - 1-4 - Normal            - DC 
Trevor spencer   - 1,315,350 - 1-4 - Normal            - DC 
Mosquito Fighter - 1,242,240 - 1-4 - Normal            - DC 
dial911          - 1,235,590 - 1-4 - Reverse           - DC 
The Coop         - 1,173,180 - 1-4 - Normal            - DC 
Ayanami          - 1,159,040 - 1-4 - Normal            - DC 
SFKhoa           - 1,144,180 - 1-4 - Normal            - DC 
BulletMagnet     - 1,082,390 - 1-4 - Reverse           - DC 
Kingbuzzo        - 1,066,300 - 1-4 - Normal            - DC 
RFP              - 1,057,620 - 1-3 - Normal            - DC 
Tychom           - 1,046,310 - 1-4 - Normal            - DC 
Dennis           - 1,001,070 - 1-4 - Normal            - DC 
icepick          -   987,760 - 1-3 - Reverse           - DC 

VKL6.02

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VKL7.04

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New Order i dunno how this thing works help
VKL5.03?

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1. Blinge - 2,334,960 - ALL - Normal/Dual stick - PS3

VKL6.02?

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VKL7.04?

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HD+ rolf
VKL5.03

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VKL6.02

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VKL7.04

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Wes112 · Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 26 Location: CT

Arcade

Wes112 - 2,030630 - 1-5 - Normal - PS3

Just starting to get back into this game. I don't have a DC anymore so I have to play the PS3 version. I just played mainly for survival this run. Cleared the first loop for the first time.

wiNteR · Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 232

Here is a score for 2-1 Start, if you want to add that category.

winteR - 1,921,840 - All - Normal - DC

I was lucky enough not to die with bombs in stock. Managed to clear the game with one life in spare (and 0 bombs), thanks to huge supply of bombs.

ratikal · Joined: 13 Nov 2010 Posts: 975 Location: Massachusetts

Ratikal - 2,678,080 - 2-1 - Normal - 360

First looping! Sliver of health away from getting into 2-2...

Erppo · Joined: 09 Jan 2011 Posts: 1141 Location: Finland

I've been feeling like practicing the second loop of this and Extra mode is pretty good for that. It seems like you can't record replays with that though, at least I was never prompted and I don't see anything in the options either.

Extra Mode
Erppo - 3,223,030 - ALL - Normal - 360

Silly end, entered the boss with a spare life and max bombs but managed to die right away in the opening phase. Still somehow beat the rest with only 3 bombs.

Blinge · Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 4345 Location: Villa Straylight

I suggest allowing dual stick for New Order Mode.. as both were additions to the HD version.
Leave it banned for arcade mode though so there's no unfair advantage?

Kiken · Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 3815

So should HD+ get its own score board considering how bizarre it is with the whole slow-down-the-stage rank-ometer? Also, those playing on the 360 and/or PS3 should probably list the chopper they used.

Despatche · Joined: 02 Dec 2010 Posts: 3757

the different copters are being noted, but noone's mentioned using one. i know their names now so blank space spam, also hd+ so more blank spam

it's a good thing people stopped playing this game

Despatche · Joined: 02 Dec 2010 Posts: 3757

Hm... removed Extra Mode. As neat as starting from loop 2 is, I think it's a bit redundant. If it helps, I'm not one for spamming stage select boards either... they're only in the Giga Wing thread because they were in the old thread, and I still want to remove them...

If these kinds of things are a big deal to you, please say so now! Fortunately, winteR's score is right there, so I could readd it if I needed.

Erppo · Joined: 09 Jan 2011 Posts: 1141 Location: Finland

Posting this now since I won't be able to play more for a while. The default chopper.

Erppo - 5,457,920 - 2-5 - Normal - 360

I have yet to loop this with any extra lives. Usually I don't even die at the boss but at some random dumb things somewhere.

Also I don't see any reason why Extra Mode shouldn't be included. At least it's more popular than New Order!

Despatche · Joined: 02 Dec 2010 Posts: 3757

Extra Mode isn't much of an extra mode. Would you track DOJBL loop 1 scores too?

Erppo · Joined: 09 Jan 2011 Posts: 1141 Location: Finland

I think that's a slightly different case, since the 1-loop mode there is just the normal game that ends sooner (I don't think Hibachi is really worth much) while the Extra mode gives different stages from the start, and thus makes it harder than obtaining the same score in the first loop of the regular game.

I don't particularly care either way though, if you don't want to add a board I'm not going to protest.

wiNteR · Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 232

Quote:

If these kinds of things are a big deal to you, please say so now!

No problem. I used way too many bombs in my clear anyway! ... about 7 or 8 ...

Despatche · Joined: 02 Dec 2010 Posts: 3757

you know, i kinda wonder how many bombs all those ddp scores use :V

wiNteR · Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 232

For ddp, the total no of lives is 7 ... 3 by default, 2 for score extends, and 2 from stage-3 1up. That means that:

no of bombs = 3 + 4 + 5 + 24 = 36

I must have used most of them (with 5-8 bombs getting wasted perhaps) to reach the last stage. In general, I think mostly people pre-plan up till a certain point, and then use bombs freely after that.

Stevens · Joined: 01 May 2014 Posts: 3126 Location: Brooklyn NY

Is there a grace period before you are allowed to submit scores?

Kollision · Joined: 16 Aug 2008 Posts: 2583 Location: BRA

Stevens wrote:

Is there a grace period before you are allowed to submit scores?

Grace?

c'mon just post it already

Stevens · Joined: 01 May 2014 Posts: 3126 Location: Brooklyn NY

Thanks for the reply. I just didn't want to break any unwritten
rules.

Kollision, I'm the same Stevens as here:

http://1cclog.blogspot.com/2012/02/unde ... mcast.html

Stevens - 3,522,050 - 2-3 - Reverse - DC

Don't laugh! It is supposed to me Mr.S, but it obviously looks like
I am a MRS.

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/14003448816226343/

Kollision · Joined: 16 Aug 2008 Posts: 2583 Location: BRA

Stevens wrote:

Kollision, I'm the same Stevens as here:

http://1cclog.blogspot.com/2012/02/unde ... mcast.html

I bet you have played UD a lot more since then
and what a great score!

Stevens · Joined: 01 May 2014 Posts: 3126 Location: Brooklyn NY

Thanks!

It took me about 65 hours for that first clear. I have put in another 35 since then, and am still playing it 2-3 hours a week.

Blinge · Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 4345 Location: Villa Straylight

Arcade
Blinge - 2,497,700 - 2-1 - Normal - PS3

New Order
Blinge - 2,334,960 - ALL - Normal/Dual Stick - PS3

I used dual stick control for that New Order clear. You ignored my last post about it, Despatche, but I still think you should accept dual stick scores for New Order mode only.

Edit: cheers man.

Stevens · Joined: 01 May 2014 Posts: 3126 Location: Brooklyn NY

Stevens - 4,360,860 - 2-5 - Normal - DC

Stevens · Joined: 01 May 2014 Posts: 3126 Location: Brooklyn NY

Stevens - 4,936,120 - 2-5 - Normal - DC

Spoiler: show

Despatche · Joined: 02 Dec 2010 Posts: 3757

Does anyone else wanna handle the New Order crap and I can just handle the original game? Please? I don't have New Order, and I don't see myself getting it anytime soon.

Blinge · Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 4345 Location: Villa Straylight

Do you get mad seeing a #1 next to my name, Patchey?

Despatche · Joined: 02 Dec 2010 Posts: 3757

No, the thread looks like garbage and I have no real way of fixing it. This has been an issue ever since May 18th, 2012.

Blinge · Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 4345 Location: Villa Straylight

If it matters so much then by all means; delete it.
It's not like I'm competing with anyone or even playing the game anymore.

LordHypnos · Joined: 09 Mar 2014 Posts: 1842 Location: Mars Colony, 2309

Just thought I'd go ahead and post my PB here even though I'm still working towards the clear. This is the 360 arcade version

LordHypnos - 1,896,540 - 1-5 - tate - Xbox 360

Just a note for other people playing this game. The infamous slowdown on the final boss (when tated) seems to lessen when you're far to the right or left of the screen. This is super obnoxious as it means that if you move across the screen between slowdown area and slowdown free area you get very jerky speed changes.

Despatche · Joined: 02 Dec 2010 Posts: 3757

I assume you used Normal? I probably should have made a note about that but I figured the boards would have made it obvious. Note added.

Extremely helpful, thanks. One of the big reasons I avoided Under Defeat was the ridiculous slowdown.

LordHypnos · Joined: 09 Mar 2014 Posts: 1842 Location: Mars Colony, 2309

Despatche wrote:

I assume you used Normal? I probably should have made a note about that but I figured the boards would have made it obvious. Note added.

Extremely helpful, thanks. One of the big reasons I avoided Under Defeat was the ridiculous slowdown.

It's really just that one spot. Well I guess there's some slowdown caused by bombing (I think more for dramatic effect than anything), but I want to say that that was in the original game too. But then again I didn't play the DC version enough to know that, so maybe I'm wrong.

Oh, I actually used reverse controls. hahaha. Yeah, probably should have a field.

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