Great Mahou Daisakusen/Dimahoo [Arcade]

Despatche · Joined: 02 Dec 2010 Posts: 3757

Well, here we go.

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Default settings, please... though I guess I could allow loop? Tough question.

Please post scores in this format:

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VERSION - CHARACTER
NAME - SCORE - STAGE - ITEMS COLLECTED - PLATFORM

Please indicate which emulator build/program version or which release/console you may have used.

Secret characters: insert coin, up, up, left, down, down, right, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, Start

god damn it region differences ok uh Great Mahou Daisakusen is harder than any Dimahoo, so note that if nothing else.
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Congratulations to Zeron (ADI) for getting the first ALL and setting a new western record! I think. I'm still skeptical. Maybe.

Great Mahou Daisakusen

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=Karte=
1.  Matt             - 17,005,260 - Stage 5 -  90 Items
2.  plasticXO        -  7,786,270 - Stage 4 -  78 Items - PCB 
3.  Project Ako      -  4,888,490 - Stage 4 -  68 Items - ShmupMAME v4.2

=Golden=
1.  Zerst            - 35,028,950 - Stage 6 -  99 Items - MAME

Dimahoo

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=Solo Bang=
  ADI              - 78,801,230 - A L L ! - 107 Items - PCB
  Jaimers          - 24,435,630 - Stage 6 -  97 Items - MAME (USA)
  dink             -  5,687,300 - A L L ! -  58 Items - FBA
  Aliquantic       -  5,318,540 - Stage 5 -  74 Items - ShmupMAME v2.2
  Keade            -  5,239,490 - Stage 5 -  78 Items
  Bananamatic      -  5,078,680 - Stage 5 -  53 Items
  Sasupoika        -  5,069,790 - Stage 5 -  69 Items
  raiden           -  2,492,050 - Stage 5 -  30 Items

=Karte=
  chempop          - 14,053,520 - Stage 6 -  86 Items - PCB 
  Bananamatic      - 11,324,200 - Stage 6 -  72 Items
  SFKhoa           - 11,291,880 - Stage 5 -  85 Items
  Landshark        -  9,176,120 - Stage 5 -  ?? Items
  Aliquantic       -  7,099,970 - Stage 5 -  71 Items
  Voxbox           -  5,113,680 - Stage 5 -  65 Items
  dink             -  4,849,620 - A L L ! -   6 Items - FBA
  Enhasa           -  4,622,700 - Stage 5 -  59 Items
  Chirpy13         -  4,616,370 - Stage 5 -  58 Items - MAME
Akraten          -  4,066,780 - Stage 5 -  67 Items - PCB
Dunpeal2064      -  3,928,380 - Stage 4 -  71 Items
Edge             -  3,917,270 - Stage 5 -  72 Items
Illyrian         -  3,640,000 - Stage 5 -  60 Items
Squire Grooktook -  3,410,410 - Stage 5 -  70 Items - ShmupMAME v4.2
Dave_K.          -  3,233,290 - Stage 6 -  00 Items
crithit5000      -  2,672,860 - Stage 4 -  59 Items
ill6             -  2,133,130 - Stage 4 -  43 Items

=Miyamoto=
  Smile            -  3,026,530 - Stage 5 -  59 Items - FBA4PSP

=Grimlen=
  BOS              - 60.948.310 - Stage 6 - 108 Items
  Feedbacker       - 42,736,330 - Stage 5 - 105 Items - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Europe)
  JIM              - 15,217,750 - A L L ! -  89 Items
  Tar-Palantir     -  9,181,990 - Stage 6 -  87 Items
  Ruldra           -  8,259,610 - Stage 5 -  85 Items
  CRI              -  6,111,100 - Stage 5 -  73 Items
  Rastan78         -  5,877,440 - Stage 4 -  79 Items
  saucykobold      -  5,791,160 - Stage 5 -  72 Items
  Third_strike     -  5,381,560 - Stage 5 -  74 Items
Patrik           -  5,219,940 - Stage 6 -  71 Items
shoe-sama        -  2,780,940 - Stage 5 -  57 Items
Naut             -  2,709,600 - Stage 5 -  53 Items

=Gain=
  Sasupoika        -  2,735,380 - Stage 4 -  58 Items
  spineshark       -  2,095,680 - Stage 4 -  51 Items

=Chitta=
  spineshark       -  4,016,500 - Stage 4 -  52 Items

=Birthday=
  Zerst            - 19.811.840 - Stage 6 -  96 Items
  freddiebamboo    -  3,932,090 - Stage 4 -  73 Items
  blackoak         -  3,473,400 - A L L ! -  31 Items
  Akraten          -  1,577,770 - Stage 4 -  45 Items

=Golden=
  Zerst            - 41,600,630 - Stage 6 - 103 Items - MAME
  Vludi            -  5,436,270 - A L L ! -  48 Items - MAME
  Twiddle          -  4,781,440 - Stage 5 -  68 Items
  spineshark       -  3,035,090 - Stage 2 -  41 Items

Aliquantic · Joined: 01 Sep 2010 Posts: 805

Aliquantic - 5,318,540 - Stage 5 - Solo Bang - 74 (Lagless 2.2)

Goddammit Infernon

And it appears Karte is a much better choice than Solo Bang in this game too, so I'm hoping I'll get a better score soon with her...

Edit: Aliquantic - 7,099,970 - Stage 5 - Karte - 71

Goddammit Infernon

I actually got a few more complete sets, and Infernon just became even more brutal as a reward. most of the score increase comes from getting a few level 8 treasure items, though.

Illyrian · Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Posts: 1543 Location: London

Illyrian - 3,640,000 - Stage 5 - Karte - 60

Best I can do in the first few hours of play, gotta figure out how to get the multiplier up higher on the first 2 stages!

chempop · Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 3436 Location: Western-MA USA

Not an easy game...

Chempop - 4,433,580 - Stage 5 - Karte - 60

These lasers bend too fast:

Naut · Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 292

Naut - 2,709,600 - 5 - Grimlen - 53

I'll gladly take bottom yes please. A faster character next credit methinks.

Zeron · Joined: 29 Jul 2010 Posts: 927

ADI - 52,423,020 - ALL- Solobang- 102 Items PCB

If only I understood how TAC managed to counterstop it.... I actually once had a potentially higher score but I was playing on my pcb and had to take a dump so it had to end prematurely.

Anyway this is one of those games you have to truly "get" to break the 10-20 million barrier one of the major reason I believe so is that all of the major highscoring replays are of atrocious quality like blurry 320x220 so in many cases you can barely even figure out what the hell is going on or even make out the level of the charge meter etc.

Aliquantic · Joined: 01 Sep 2010 Posts: 805

Zeron wrote:

ADI - 52,423,020 -Stage 7 - 102 Items PCB

Picture me confused for that part... you'll want to add your character too for Despatche.

Zeron · Joined: 29 Jul 2010 Posts: 927

Aliquantic wrote:

Zeron wrote:

ADI - 52,423,020 -Stage 7 - 102 Items PCB

Picture me confused for that part... you'll want to add your character too for Despatche.

Well damn I forgot to write what character(and the fact that it was a clear..) I was using when writing my shitty text anyway I studied the CLOVER-TAC replay you can find it on superplay.co.uk and Nico Video.

Bananamatic · Joined: 25 Jun 2010 Posts: 3530

Zeron wrote:

and had to take a dump so it had to end prematurely.

I'd shit on the floor if I had such a high score

Gus · Joined: 19 Aug 2011 Posts: 934

Holy fuck

Zeron · Joined: 29 Jul 2010 Posts: 927

Anyway I don't know where the hell 8ing/Raizing where going with this game what I understood it was supposed to be something like a entry level game with CAPCOM backing it's also the most comon 8ing/Raizing board kinda funny since it's the least popular one which also saw release EU/US. How did CAPCOM find this "entry" level I can't see anyway I find GigaFacer to be one of the biggest assholes in the genre his backwinding bullshit which might leave a tiny part of a bullet very close to the border of offscreen and boom, not to mention with the slower speed ships if you screw you up your timing and manouvering you get trapped and there really is no other option then to bomb and yes I bombed the hell out of him(pretty much everyone does)

My favorite part of the game? The bossrush

Here links to the TAC replay http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm272964

The reason why Solobang is the best character imo is because more or less you got total control of the charge shot with Karte for example it's a total randomised mess and you can't control it not to mention it's kinda weak, Miyamoto also has a very high scoring run around 88million(http://www.super-play.info//index.php?superplay=498) I believe? But I can't handle his ship speed.

Anyways majority of the score comes from the "hidden" items and stripping the bosses fully down.

Eaglet · Joined: 29 Oct 2011 Posts: 1315 Location: Sweeedeeeen.

Sweden represent muthafuckaz! :mrgreen:

Also, Zeron, YOU ARE GREAT!

Bananamatic · Joined: 25 Jun 2010 Posts: 3530

isn't Grimlen also a counterstopper? there are no replays of him though

NTSC-J · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 2446 Location: Tokyo

Congrats on beating one of the longest held Western records around!

Zeron · Joined: 29 Jul 2010 Posts: 927

NTSC-J wrote:

Congrats on beating one of the longest held Western records around!

You sure? I know those chinamen know their shit.

I would not be able to do jackshit either way without the CLOVER TAC replay more or less I downright ripped him off from pretty much every stance.

NTSC-J · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 2446 Location: Tokyo

Zeron wrote:

NTSC-J wrote:

Congrats on beating one of the longest held Western records around!

You sure? I know those chinamen know their shit.

Matt's record was the Western high for 7 or 8 years. Japanese players of course counter-stopped this long ago.

Zeron · Joined: 29 Jul 2010 Posts: 927

NTSC-J wrote:

Zeron wrote:

NTSC-J wrote:

Congrats on beating one of the longest held Western records around!

You sure? I know those chinamen know their shit.

Matt's record was the Western high for 7 or 8 years. Japanese players of course counter-stopped this long ago.

Wow

well as I kinda said a few posts back the most common board and Raizing game yet the least popular. But man those Japanese players are on a whole new level actually devising these strategies and discovering the secrets in the arcades stuff that might be seen as "comon knowledge like maybe the Pinwheel on stage 1" No way in hell I would ever figure this shit out.

Eaglet · Joined: 29 Oct 2011 Posts: 1315 Location: Sweeedeeeen.

Zeron wrote:

Japanese players are on a whole new level

Yup.

Zeron wrote:

arcades

Zeron wrote:

"comon knowledge

This is why.

Zeron · Joined: 29 Jul 2010 Posts: 927

Well back before the internet was that widespread and used and the obvious spread of knowledge was much slower those guys who found out the secrets of Battle Garegga for example hats off to them..

Sapz · Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 683

Awesome job!

Naut · Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 292

Congrats Zeron, badass score!

TLB · Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 1368

Fuckin' sexy job, Zeron.

Eaglet wrote:

Zeron wrote:

Japanese players are on a whole new level

Yup.

Zeron wrote:

arcades

Zeron wrote:

"comon knowledge

This is why.

Quoted for truth, justice, and the American way.

Ruldra · Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 4227 Location: Brazil

Hoooly fucking shit, that's crazy! No westerner will ever top that.

Hagane · **Posted:** Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:00 pm

So, what's the secret? I tried to understand how the scoring works but always get crappy scores, even if I get secret items. Also, what triggers the shuriken secret item at the beginning of stage 1? I tried hitting the goblins with a fully charged shot but I get it very rarely.

TLB · Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 1368

Ruldra wrote:

Hoooly fucking shit, that's crazy! No westerner will ever top that.

What makes you think so?

mesh control · Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 2496 Location: internet

YOU ARE GREAT!

chempop · Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 3436 Location: Western-MA USA

OMG Zeron

I'm speachless...

chempop · Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 3436 Location: Western-MA USA

Pretty pathetic compared to Zeron's score, but I'm only a month deep and trying to figure out my own strategies. It's an improvement...

PCB
Chempop - 5,814,500 - Stage 5 - Karte - 79

Zeron · Joined: 29 Jul 2010 Posts: 927

WARNING WARING HERE COMES THE STRONG ONE!
ADI - 79,842,353 - ALL- Solobang- 107 Items PCB

Still clueless how to hit the counterstop. Well I can't really use the available superplays anymore it's all up to me unless someone has a counterstop superplay lying around there somewhere...

spineshark · Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 274

oh my god.

That's amazing, especially considering the Clover vids (for how unwatchable they are) are the only reference I know of. I actually kind of think it would be worth TASing the game to figure out where the last 10-20m come from, but it probably still wouldn't come out as a practical tool considering it doesn't make sense for actual players to rely on frame-perfect enemy destruction to collect early sets.

Also, I'm horrible at TASing in the first place, but it sounds fun. A perfect Birthday counterstop would be fun to watch, even if it was completely fake. I'll have to think about it. (At least it sounds easier than most games since there's a defined and frankly relatively straightforward goal. At least it's not some game like Progear or Giga Wing where every move you make has staggeringly complicated potential consequences for the next several seconds.)

Also, I need to spend more time actually playing the real game. A minor concern, but I think about it all the time even though I almost never spend much time with it. Everything about it is just too awesome.

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