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 Post subject: Tiger-Heli [Arcade/Various]
PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:09 pm 


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Japan defaults are 3 lives, extends at 50000 and then every 120000, normal difficulty, and fast player speed.
US defaults are 3 lives, extends at 20000 and then every 80000, hard difficulty, and normal player speed.

Please use the Japan romset (or TSB1) with the Japan settings and the US romset with the US settings! Note that in old MAME, bootleg set 3 was called Japan set 1, while the real Japan set was called Japan set 2. Please avoid all those bootlegs!

Autofire is allowed, and the secret warp is banned.
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DETAILS is for what model of console and release of cart/disc, or what emulator and version.
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 1. Max_FAD      - 9.999.990 - 225 - ?   - PS 
 2. chtimi-CLA   -   633,060 -  80 - ?   - PS 
 3. Perikles     -   453,120 -  53 - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2
 4. mycophobia   -   379,980 -  42 - Yes - MAME v0.193
 5. Square_Air   -   378,490 -  50 - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2
 6. Kollision    -   370,890 -  44 - ?   - PS 
 7. trap15       -   365,880 -  44 - Yes - MAME Plus! SVN 5187
 8. Neon         -   259,280 -  31 - ?   - PS 
 9. spadgy       -   211,580 -  28 - Yes - PS 
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 Post subject: Re: Tiger-Heli [Arcade/Various]
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:36 pm 


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fixed up the table a bit. gonna try and play this again maybe. unsure about the player speed thing. i forget what the warp is, it's probably something like what slap fight has so i'll have to ban it for consistency.

edit: yeah fuck you too toaplan
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 Post subject: Re: Tiger-Heli [Arcade/Various]
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:02 pm 


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sorry for the bump, but i guess i finally figured out the dip situation.

the dips for the tiger-heli port are correct and match up with the arcade flyer. romstar's flyer for the us version has different dips which are more similar to what mame uses by default except you need to change difficulty from easy to hard.

so when using mame, please switch the dips for the japan and us romsets to the ones specified... a "mame" board would be silly.
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 Post subject: Re: Tiger-Heli [Arcade/Various]
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:54 am 


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trap15 - 267360 - 31 - ON - MAME Plus! SVN 5187

Game over literally right before end of the loop. Frustrating.
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 Post subject: Re: Tiger-Heli [Arcade/Various]
PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:49 pm 


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trap15 - 365,880 - 44 - ON - MAME Plus! SVN 5187

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Done with this game.
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 Post subject: Re: Tiger-Heli [Arcade/Various]
PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:01 pm 


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Arcade - Japan version

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Perikles - 453,120 - 53 - Yes - shmupMAME v4.2

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Quite an interesting game. Not one I'd ever try to get good at (unlike Hishouzame, for example), achieving a quick clear was instructive, though. It can be incommensurably exasperating when you fly near a tank spawn position, thinking to yourself "I'll surely get the guy right away" but due to a bad shot interval the guy surely gets you - right in the face. :lol: I liked the personal aspect of it nonetheless, little tanks and turrets are always dastardly foes that are not to be underestimated in Toaplan games, yet decidedly so in this one.
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 Post subject: Re: Tiger-Heli [Arcade/Various]
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:26 am 


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Square_Air - 378,490 - 50 - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2

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Perikles - 453,120 - 53 - Yes - shmupMAME v4.2

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you unfortunately have the wrong extend settings (20K and every 80K instead of 50K and every 120K) for the score table. I actually made this same mistake earlier today until I double checked the thread and subsequently spent the afternoon grabbing another scoring clear. If your other settings are the same though, I believe you would still hold the 3rd position in the table regardless since those extra lives didn't really come into play until after my final score.
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 Post subject: Re: Tiger-Heli [Arcade/Various]
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:17 am 


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Great catch (also congratulations on clearing a rather aggravating game)! Looks like I also had the "normal" speed setting for the heli instead of the "fast" one, that obviously only makes things harder, however.

Since I got curious now, I looked a few things up: ben.shinobi also used the extend setting I got (he didn't submit a score here, but got a counterstop; might be that he played the US version to begin with, considering that he usually (always?) uses the Japan version, that doesn't seem terribly likely, though). Kollision likewise had the same extend setting, but "fast" heli speed. This game truly is all over the place with its various settings.
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 Post subject: Re: Tiger-Heli [Arcade/Various]
PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:06 pm 


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Thanks, and aggravating is a pretty good description. After clearing the game with both speeds it really feels like the fast speed fits better with the design of the game. While it's still doable on the normal speed, some of the movements that you're expected to make feel viciously tight (especially with the little helis). It seems that many of us just used the defaults in MAME and the ports.
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 Post subject: Re: Tiger-Heli [Arcade/Various]
PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:03 am 


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MAME really boned this game. I'd greatly prefer to add Perikles's score.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:23 pm 


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mycophobia - 379,980 - 42 - Yes (10hz) - MAME 0.193

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