Giga Wing Generations

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:51 pm

Ah, btw. what was your multiplier on that run? I'm botching play after pla, so far i'm doing though:

75+70+50+130-160(random, need to refine stage four)+160-190+etc=about 500M if i can pull a decent run, virtual maximum of 550M?

Just to get a good idea on score potential

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:42 pm

1- 84m
2- 90m
3- 55m (~25sec on boss)
4- 120m (~55sec on boss, 93% dest., 1 bomb/3 used)
5- 160m (27sec on boss, 93% dest., 0-1 bomb/1 used)
6- 5m (36sec on boss, 0-1 bomb)

=515m

I usually get 130-40m on 4, but otherwise sound. You'll need to think about other factors than multiplier for score potential, though. That's why I put the stage bonus info.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:24 pm

Now i understand your score increase...I get no more than 70M on the second stage though, basically 10k before the canyon section and about 22k before the boss. Also, i think i'm botching the boss, sorry but can you recap again...reflect the 20 streams of blue circular bullets, then wait for the blue circular bullets from the centre, trigger the second form,reflect the first blue and slow bullets, then the blue streams, then the green pattern. Is this correct? Ah, also, do you just bomb out the fourth boss?55 seconds looks like you just do "reflect-bomb-reflect" on the second form...
Also, is it actually convenient? I suppose it is, as i can't really think of good (score-wise) patterns to reflect on said second form

Also, what do you sacrifice (reflection-wise) on the fifth boss? I suppose a lot, as 27 seconds is also much more than my usual time (about 10).
Rough idea: you take down the boss (first form) by the end of the main group of circular patterns (three reflections, i think), then you just bomb on the first pattern of the second form, going for the quick kill on other patterns, i suppose.

At any case, i think i can profit from quick kills for a good Hawk score: another interesting thing is that Robin seems to be much more advantaged on handling bosses, especially for damage handling...

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:11 pm

Randorama wrote: Now i understand your score increase...I get no more than 70M on the second stage though, basically 10k before the canyon section and about 22k before the boss. Also, i think i'm botching the boss, sorry but can you recap again...reflect the 20 streams of blue circular bullets, then wait for the blue circular bullets from the centre, trigger the second form,reflect the first blue and slow bullets, then the blue streams, then the green pattern. Is this correct? Ah, also, do you just bomb out the fourth boss?55 seconds looks like you just do "reflect-bomb-reflect" on the second form...
Also, is it actually convenient? I suppose it is, as i can't really think of good (score-wise) patterns to reflect on said second form

How about I take a small video of the second boss with my digital camera? On this stage I'm starting to finish around 29,000. On the second form of the 4th, you're right. After that I can just see precious seconds slipping away with little to gain. I think it works well.

Also, what do you sacrifice (reflection-wise) on the fifth boss? I suppose a lot, as 27 seconds is also much more than my usual time (about 10).
Rough idea: you take down the boss (first form) by the end of the main group of circular patterns (three reflections, i think), then you just bomb on the first pattern of the second form, going for the quick kill on other patterns, i suppose.

On the first form I end it when it shoots out the small green blasts. I'm not sure how much I lose, but I know I finish around 30,000 (I think). I know that whether or not you play for fast kills on this boss, it will still dish out many reflecting opportunities because it's pretty resilient. Starting at about 22,000, 5,000+ on the first form and then maybe another 3,000? I do miss the best reflect opportunity on the second form - the large red and blue circles of bullets towards the end.

Of course there's also medal values to consider. They are worth a ton on that boss (hundreds of kei). I have no idea what difference it would make during the boss to draw it out a little bit, or to do as I do. But, if all there is to gain is 30-ish million on the multiplier, and 17 seconds are lost that's 193.8kei vs. 113.4kei in bonus (510m vs. 540m). Bonus on 6 would be about 214.2kei vs. 226.8kei. Lose 80kei, gain 12kei. It has to be a big difference to matter (like 100m+). It would take a bit of experimenting to discover the ideal time.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:03 pm

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How about I take a small video of the second boss with my digital camera? On this stage I'm starting to finish around 29,000. On the second form of the 4th, you're right. After that I can just see precious seconds slipping away with little to gain. I think it works well.
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Ah, lovely, much appreciated aka yes thansk

About the bosses: the fourth one can be taken down at roughly 48 seconds by skipping the last form of the final attack, when it stops shooting the blue needles.On the second form, if you do reflect-bomb-reflect on the spiralling attack, you can get about 1,5k-2k of medals easily, so the quick kill is doable. The fifth boss...well, the only decent attack on the second form is the very last one, of course. But well, taking it out quickly with shot medals could slow down the multiplier bonus, and reflecting the other smaller attacks may make up for the missing last one. would you like to do the math?

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:13 pm

Randorama - Hawk - 1314,0555,6612,44453020 - ALL (Original PS2)

I promised you a good Hawk score and here it is!Also, it's easily improvable...Now, i also need to nail a good score on Robin. I may insist more on Hawk though, it's been a while since i've gone the way of the spread shot

EDIT: ah, score for stage 4:

Randorama - 1187,1345,2333,45432220 - Robin -Original PS2

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:07 pm

Video for 2nd boss isn't working out so well, so I'll just list the reflects:

#1. Reflect a bit early and squeeze in a few hundred extra on the first batch of green bullets from the center.
#2. About 4 seconds later (if timed perfectly, enough for a recharge) come the blue circles from the sides amidst green bullets.
#3. Second batch.
#4. Blue bullets from the center (circular + aimed). Turns over.
#5. Reflect on a wing.
#6. Reflect blue lines.
#7. Green bullets from center.

Still need to work on what and when to shoot.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:32 pm

Ok, need to improve the stage though...

but:
Stage 4. 1237,3333,4561,12777650 - Randorama - Robin -Original PS2

Stage 5. 1191,3452,4553,34889990 - Randorama - Robin - Original PS2

I did 25k+5k on the boss, a 47 (or 48) secs kill is apparently the right time (with the reflect-bomb-reflect tactique on second form). On the fifth boss... i still have to do the math, but the last attacks seem to compensate for the 10 seconds or so that you lose by waiting for them. In this particular case, i did a spectacular 21k+11k on said stage. Shame i keep fucking up complete Robin runs...

Will post soon a Grouse score btw (...doubt you give a fuck, though

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Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:51 am

You're killing me at 4&5, Randorama. I fear for my Robin score!

On stage 4, do you recall how much of the points came from the stage and how much from bonus? You have a few seconds under on the boss, but you still surpassed my score by a decent amount, so I'm wondering if the extra medals make a difference at the end (999m multiplier I imagine)? Perfect destruction rate? I think I only got to 999m just before the bonus popped up (as it continues rolling).

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:39 pm

Finally able to post...

Randorama - 1638,3444,12001030 - Robin - All (Original PS2)

I was ready to throw away the play until stage 4, then resurrected on stage 5 and landed a 201M multiplier score on said stage alone. Destruction rate 93%, 14 seconds remaining, would have obtained about 210M by completing the reflect on last pattern, i think. I think i have all the reflects on stage 4, but pulling them off is not an easy task. Beside that, i'm close to a good Grouse score though

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:11 pm

You're missing a few numbers on the Robin score, so I just left the last four blank. Correct?

Hadn't played for two weeks, just started again today but nothing new. I really need to improve a few stages before trying another "near perfect" run. My stage 3 is so disgustingly bad. I hope I can get another 30m off of it. Just noticed 2 larger enemies I hadn't triggered before.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:59 pm

yeah, sorry, only the kei (and the final 0, of course) are right, i cancelled the score...

I'm heading on the GD for the third stage, btw

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:30 pm

A few new score attacks:

1 - 420,4144,6466,69816400
3 - 372,1473,3429,31067490
4 - 1331,2759,9110,88370670

Practiced 4 for awhile. That game was 25,500+4,500, 94%, 50 seconds.

Alske · Post by **Alske** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:31 pm

I guess, you just reply in the thread to post your hi-score?

If I'd stop being such a retard I'd do a lot better at this game...

236京3727兆0086億6388万6740点 Hawk - 5 (Original)

-Alske

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:09 am

Alske wrote:I guess, you just reply in the thread to post your hi-score?

Yep, and I update the chart. You don't have to put in the Japanese symbols. Actually, you really shouldn't (for chart consistency). And put your name in too.

MrMonkeyMan · Post by **MrMonkeyMan** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:16 pm

511,7396,0869,10709420 - MrMonkeyMan - Robin - ALL (Original PS2)

This makes my highscore table look silly. My 2nd place score is 138 whatevers on stage 4, and suddenly I have a score more then 3 times that size and it's an all clear...

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:54 pm

Rob wrote:A few new score attacks:

1 - 420,4144,6466,69816400
3 - 372,1473,3429,31067490
4 - 1331,2759,9110,88370670

Practiced 4 for awhile. That game was 25,500+4,500, 94%, 50 seconds.

Ehm,

4 - Randorama - 1337,2344,9780,44444100 - Robin - Original PS2

Run was slightly inferior for the final bonus (93% - 47 secs), but the 32,512 multiplier was amazing

The worst part is that at least in a couple of points i did something which was way better than the standard approach (before the second mid-boss, from the mid-boss to the boss), and the boss was +5,100...I think it's near the maximum, more or less. Alas, i am really clueless on what i exactly did to improve those section ( in terms of +1k each, given the standard...like getting a couple of extra reflects or so).

Still a lot of things to do: also, i suspect that there's some trick to squeeze about 6k on the boss, need to check.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:25 pm

Randorama wrote:The worst part is that at least in a couple of points i did something which was way better than the standard approach (before the second mid-boss, from the mid-boss to the boss),

Crap, that middle section is my main weakness on that stage. I just can't figure it out and I know I'm blowing a few thousand medals here and there (but mostly there). 6kei.

5:
1254,7673,5568,71276320

I can't seem to complete a game these days, so I'll take it as a sign to keep improving the stages.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:08 am

New overall score: 2137kei

1- 90m
2- 90m
3- 55m
4- 140m (49 sec, 1 bomb used)
5- 170m (28sec, 2 bombs used)
6 - (40 sec, 1 death, 1 bomb used)

Handful of minor mistakes in the second half.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:05 pm

Congratulations!

What were the percentages for stages 4 and 5?

By the way, i'll be with you until i pull off a good complete run...this means that i probably won't beat your score, probably

More to post in the GD, if it's ok for you.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:41 pm

Thanks. I'm not sure what the percentages were (I'd guess in the 93-95 range).

I actually bought a capture card a few days ago to share some GWG replays, but my computer died right after I installed it.

MrMonkeyMan · Post by **MrMonkeyMan** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:32 pm

703,0546,3880,80845750 - MrMonkeyMan - Robin - ALL (Original PS2)

I'm not going to get much higher than this unless I start playing differently.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:59 pm

Ehi, Fooling around with my new 36" tv gave me this:

Randorama - 1667,3344,5553,13245560 -All - Robin - original PS2

Will be back on the game as soon as work stops sucking my life away

Ah,. thanks for the videos, comments to come in the next days in the GD.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:41 am

Randorama 1882,1345,2223,12222340 - Robin - All - Original PS2

and...

Randorama 1501,2212,4533,78553210 - Hawk - All - Original PS2

I'm up to 2,1k kei max, i think, so you shouldn't worry...but i think i can hunt down the Hawk score easily, adapting the strategies just requires some extra tuning for the speed

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:46 am

Randorama 1572,7634,1578,3444,2220 - Hawk - Original PS2

Just shy of the official record i know of. Hmm, i wonder if there are new scores around, else i'm beating that and i'm done.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:06 pm

Randorama - 1581,1222,1344,6599,2300 - Hawk- All - original PS2

Randorama - 1937,4453,2323,3378,3120 - Robin - All - original PS2

And that's it for me. Maybe i will insist on Hawk if i discover that the actual record is higher than that.I don't think, at any case, that it can go above 1,9k...

sorry for the triple post, Rob

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:36 pm

Pre-emptive table split before Bullet Magnet gets his game (and to put Randorama's Hawk score up). Great Hawk score.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:34 pm

Randorama - 1601,1220,1239,3332,1330 - Hawk - All - original PS2

An interesting trick: third boss, the last floating island, with the central crystal. Destroy the upper right turret, then counter-clockwise the others ones, the crystal will start releasing +100 medals.The boost can be meaningful, multiplier-wise (+3k at least). I wonder if we're missing other secrets as well,it wouldn't surprise me.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:14 pm

Ha, I remember saying in the strategy thread that I thought there might be a secret there. I'll have to check this out today.

BBH · Post by **BBH** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:52 am

334,5280,6803,67417290 - BBH - Robin - ALL - Arcade-PS2

FIRST TRY EVER. What the fuck... I mean, yeah, I know my score has a long way to go. But geezus, I wasn't expecting a 1CC on my first game ever.

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