Caravan Games

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Mon May 12, 2008 9:11 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:Right, I just wasted time on 'im. Never got hit in my latest run, but I was too far from the boss most of the time. It's actually pretty easy to tell when it's about to launch its claws upwards since it's dead stopped and not shooting bubbles (those are harmless anyway).

I think they give you points though.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Mon May 12, 2008 9:12 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:Right, I just wasted time on 'im. Never got hit in my latest run, but I was too far from the boss most of the time. It's actually pretty easy to tell when it's about to launch its claws upwards since it's dead stopped and not shooting bubbles (those are harmless anyway).

haha, i also was surprised, when i find how easy i can beat him

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:19 pm

Is there any difference between normal game caravan mode and Special Version?
In score

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:28 pm

P_HAT wrote:Is there any difference between normal game caravan mode and Special Version?
In score

If you mean ANY Special Version, I haven't found a big difference. However, some games only have a Special Version for any Carivan modes, like Gunhed and Nexzr. Also, Soldier Blade Special has an "Easy Mode" for both 2min and 5min mode.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:50 pm

Star Soldier: Vanishing Earth

2 min

P_Hat - 27.327.074 - 12344

I think it was bug, but yes - full stage combo

Zuhzuhzombie!! · Post by **Zuhzuhzombie!!** » Tue May 13, 2008 11:05 pm

SOLDIER BLADE

2Min

Django - 518,700

Post by **nZero** » Tue May 13, 2008 11:34 pm

Star Soldier Vanishing Earth 5min
TVR - 174,828,581 - 14,880

Video proof that even the blue ship can chain the entire stupid level.

Post by **nZero** » Wed May 14, 2008 3:48 am

P_HAT wrote:I think it was bug, but yes - full stage combo

Not so sure it was a bug (or at least, not an emu bug). Check out the results from the 1998 Caravan compo. (The one that says Nintendo 64)

I'd love to know what's with the low hit count for the 5 minute mode if the chain system can be exploited like that, though... counterstop equivalent?

Edit - Yes, it's completely possible.

Star Soldier Vanishing Earth 2min
TVR - 38,094,880 - 15,486

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed May 14, 2008 5:06 am

Dang, people love that Wisteria.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Wed May 14, 2008 7:52 am

nZero wrote:
P_HAT wrote:I think it was bug, but yes - full stage combo
Not so sure it was a bug (or at least, not an emu bug). Check out the results from the 1998 Caravan compo. (The one that says Nintendo 64)

I'd love to know what's with the low hit count for the 5 minute mode if the chain system can be exploited like that, though... counterstop equivalent?

Edit - Yes, it's completely possible.

Star Soldier Vanishing Earth 2min
TVR - 38,094,880 - 15,486

Wow. Too bad i'm on work now, and can't check video right now. Can't wait for it

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Wed May 14, 2008 8:26 pm

Terra Cresta II

2 min

P_Hat - 329.900

5 min

P_Hat - 750.500

Wow, this game is so bad...

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Wed May 14, 2008 10:38 pm

Final Soldier

2 min

P_Hat - 666.000

sorry no replay for this run.
Gonna make 675k+ record.)

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed May 14, 2008 10:39 pm

in b4 P_Hat announces his next Final Soldier score which blows away my #2 spot...welcome to the #2 spot, P_Hat...I probably won't have a chance to work on this before I leave, so it's all yours

Congratulations!

fake edit: guess NOT in before after all. haha

Zuhzuhzombie!! · Post by **Zuhzuhzombie!!** » Wed May 14, 2008 11:02 pm

Strike that. #10 can keep his place.

Soldier Blade

2min

Django! - 527,300

Final Soldier

2min

Django! - 625,100

I'm comin for ya, P Hat.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu May 15, 2008 1:07 am

Final Soldier 2min
Ed Oscuro - 685,100

Final Soldier 5min
Ed Oscuro - 2,068,000

I had some aggravation earlier but got a 670K run with it.

Anyhow, my "new" strategy: Get everything I can early on (managed not to get hit the whole run, yay), and then just milk the boss. Killed him with one second left.

On my 670K run, I had 13 seconds on the clock after killing the two bosses, but the stuff I could get with that time left (I was one powerup away from full power, which doesn't really hurt at that point as the stuff that appears next all appears at the top of the screen) isn't very good. The two rows of enemies that appear immediately next bounce outwards on being hit, so I point-blanked the left group, then moved to the center, and then timed out.

The long wait after these boss fights kills me in both Final Soldier and Soldier Blade. I'd rather just milk the bosses, jeez...

Edit for 5min mode:

Heh, I had a run where I had 570K going into the two bosses...which would've made for a nice 2min run.

Anyhow, the three extra minutes felt much easier than the first two minutes. On this clear, I had 21 seconds remaining, and could've increased that lead further, ah well.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu May 15, 2008 6:23 am

Final Soldier 2min
Ed Oscuro - 699,100

I went into the dual bosses with 570,200 points. I probably missed tons of points from the second boss because I was hanging back down the screen once I had triggered the milking (I didn't want to prematurely kill it).

Wow...almost broke 700K there.

Zuhzuhzombie!! · Post by **Zuhzuhzombie!!** » Thu May 15, 2008 6:26 am

By dual boss do you mean the two hoppers?

Which is "the second boss" in 2min mode?

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu May 15, 2008 6:37 am

Yep. The "second boss" being the second of the grappling mechs.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Thu May 15, 2008 7:10 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:Final Soldier 2min
Ed Oscuro - 699,100

I went into the dual bosses with 570,200 points. I probably missed tons of points from the second boss because I was hanging back down the screen once I had triggered the milking (I didn't want to prematurely kill it).

Wow...almost broke 700K there.

Die

btw, when 2nd boss start's drop tons of orange bullets?
on 20+sec or less?

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu May 15, 2008 7:41 am

Shoot him until he starts dropping bullets.

I know I missed a lot, so I could do 700K theoretically...and so can you!

<Bloodreign> uh oh
<Bloodreign> you two could have a score war
<Ed> haha he says "die"
<Ed> we already had one
<Bloodreign> hahahahaha
<Ed> results are in, P_Hat loseth

maxchainsplendid · Post by **maxchainsplendid** » Thu May 15, 2008 11:19 am

Star Soldier R [Wii Ware]

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maxchainsplendid   960,300      2 Min. Mode
maxchainsplendid   2,300,600   5 Min. Mode

Post by **Ghegs** » Thu May 15, 2008 1:05 pm

Cool, Star Soldier R scores.

I'll be out of town until Monday, away from the text file where I keep the scores, so the lists won't be updated until then. Bit of a shame, I was hoping to get to do some caravan attacking this weekend and reclaim at least few spots. Ah well.

Zuhzuhzombie!! · Post by **Zuhzuhzombie!!** » Thu May 15, 2008 4:15 pm

maxchainsplendid wrote:Star Soldier R [Wii Ware]
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maxchainsplendid   906,600      2 Min. Mode
maxchainsplendid   1,910,000   5 Min. Mode

NOT FAIR!

I don't get it until Monday.

maxchainsplendid · Post by **maxchainsplendid** » Thu May 15, 2008 4:32 pm

Django! wrote:
maxchainsplendid wrote:Star Soldier R [Wii Ware]
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maxchainsplendid   906,600      2 Min. Mode
maxchainsplendid   1,910,000   5 Min. Mode
NOT FAIR!

I don't get it until Monday.

lol, I'm sure you'll beat my current score anyhow, I've only been playing it a few days -

btw, when I want to update my score, do I edit my current score post, or just post anew? thanks man -

Zuhzuhzombie!! · Post by **Zuhzuhzombie!!** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:08 pm

How do you like it? Comparable to the other Soldier Caravans?

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:19 pm

Yeah, I'm looking forward to this. How is the chaining system implemented?

maxchainsplendid · Post by **maxchainsplendid** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:25 pm

I fucking love it! True to Star Soldiers formula, the faster you kill, the faster they appear to kill more, hell I've already juiced my score to over 2mil on 5min & 960k on 2min, and yet can still think of soooo many ways to improve:D If 2/5min is your thing, its the crack!

On an interesting side note, when powering up, you collect your shield and your spread shot seperately. Once you have shield bits (up to 5/6 cant remember), they sort of charge up like in SS on cube, then you can release them by pressing Y (classic controller) and they'll shoot enemies for a couple secs. What I just figured out though, is that when released, you can actually use the trigger buttons to direct them to attack the L/R side of the screen. Like I said, improvement, improvement, improvement...

maxchainsplendid · Post by **maxchainsplendid** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:30 pm

The chaining system runs on a combo meter, fairly simple really. It can be a challenge in a couple parts to keep going though, namely when you have to kill an enemy a special way for a bonus - Overall though, just straightforward. To me, the strengths of the game lie in the progression algorithm potential. It's nice to be playing through 2 Min, and you can specifically & claerly note that enemies are showing up earlier than your last runthrough (or later sometimes, argh)

Zuhzuhzombie!! · Post by **Zuhzuhzombie!!** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:51 pm

Oh man.

Day one!

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Sat May 17, 2008 12:42 am

Yet another reason why I want a Wii. Anyways...

=Final Soldier: 2 Minute Attack=
LGB - 590.800
=Final Soldier: 5 Minute Attack=
LGB - 1.561.600

To say I improved a little.