STGT 2k7- Week #1 Twin Bee Yahhoo!

elbarto · Post by **elbarto** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:20 pm

elbarto - namakoteam - 1,889,460 - stage 4

Saturn version w/extends (oh noes!

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Bloodreign · Post by **Bloodreign** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:45 pm

SamIAm wrote:So....is anyone else getting this:

...and having it reboot endlessly? I've got the proper files and bios, but I can't get past this. Forgive me if this isn't an appropriate place to ask about this, but what should I do?

Sometimes F2 and F3 together solves this, other times an NVRAM delete might be in order. I'm not in the competition but I run the game fine in MAME 116u3.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:49 pm

shoe-sama - Downrank - 1,471,400 - 4
extends off

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:51 pm

w/o extends.
SFKhoa - Downrank - 2,120,790 - Stage 5

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:15 pm

Twiddle wrote:You can have the same settings as the console ports by setting extends to 300/700k.
But pshblllttt it's not like anyone ever touches the test menu
And I notice there's significantly faster autofire on the console port!
w/e just gonna play bioshock until a decision is reached by the people who pitted both parodius games against each other

Oh for the love of fucking Christ.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK, PEOPLE.
We've just started and already we have a problem.

Are we playing with Extends or not? I can play on MAME or Twinbee Deluxe on Saturn, but would prefer some kind of consensus as to what settings should be used for both Extends and Autofire.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:22 pm

They're 'discussing' it lol

mainpatr1 · Post by **mainpatr1** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:26 pm

mainpatr1 The No-Credit-Feeders 85,940 Stage 2

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:43 pm

Hey.

After evaluating, MAME people can go ahead and turn extends on. Set at 300,000 and 700,000. Set the Autofire delay to 3. The Port will be allowed for use.

This game has so many scoring opportunities, even if the elites clear this game mid-week,
-100% kill rate per stage in air on ground is extremely difficult...
-...while maintaining the yellow bell chain...
-...while avoiding unwanted bell colors & powerups...
-...while manipulating the 57300 bell bonus.
-All this and knowing that when an arm is blown off it does affect scoring opportunities unless you can manipulate the 57300 to compensate. Not to mention each arm has a sizable hitbox. The two extra lives can serve as arm-repair insurance...or rank control, what-have-you...

Then you have the gravity manipulation parts and stage 2's double-4:3-width stage which has to at least force strategy to refine a proper scoring path.

I think there's enough going on and plenty to do to keep improvement lasting all week even with a few clears.

If somebody wants a politically correct rewrite of Twiddle's guide, hit me back.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:43 pm

Keeping yellow bell chain is not important for high-level scoring.

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:46 pm

Twiddle wrote:Keeping yellow bell chain is not important for high-level scoring.

Yup. Plenty else to do.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:47 pm

Without further ado...

Twiddle - Turbo Team - 2,614,480 - Stage 5

I like how if your arm gets shot off you're sent half a screen away careening into something else and dying because you have no invinciblity as soon as you regain control.

Sonic R · Post by **Sonic R** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:51 pm

DJ Incompetent wrote:
After evaluating, MAME people can go ahead and turn extends on. Set at 300,000 and 700,000. Set the Autofire delay to 3. The Port will be allowed for use.

Thanks mate!
(This buys me some time to get a proper mame set up for seibu week) unless of course Raiden is win the vote lol that is not happen

back to playing

Fellow GLA mates, let me know if you find any strats.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:52 pm

Sonic R wrote:unless of course Raiden is win the vote lol that is not happen

Way, way more probable than you think.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:04 am

DJ Incompetent wrote:Hey.

After evaluating, MAME people can go ahead and turn extends on. Set at 300,000 and 700,000. Set the Autofire delay to 3. The Port will be allowed for use.

Relieving to hear

I agree with the rest of your post, there's a lot of stuff to consider and also quite a lot of options, like choosing a charge beam carefully. Definitely a lot of room for improvement and experimentation.

msm · Post by **msm** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:10 am

msm - Underdogs - 848,070 - Stage 3

edit - so these arms 'die' if they get hit, which is why i get hit but don't properly die?

oh and i turned extends on.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:19 am

DJ Incompetent wrote:p.s., Twiddle, your guide is awesome

Twiddle, are you going to put up shmuptard instructions for this 3 delay autofire thing?

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:20 am

A slight improvement...

The Coop - Old Schoolers - 1,376-740 - Stage 4

Edit: We can use extends now, and up the autofire rate from 5? Sweet.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:23 am

I've used up all my anger on this stupid game for today, so here are normal instructions.

1) use MamePlus/WolfMamePlus
2) enter tab menu and enter Autofire Setting
3) choose button you want to set autofire in and switch it to ON
4) scroll down to the appropriate autofire delay and crank it down to 3

Post by **Dave_K.** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:24 am

Thank you!

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:27 am

msm wrote:edit - so these arms 'die' if they get hit, which is why i get hit but don't properly die?

Yup, you got hit by a scratch. a full frontal blow will kill you instantly though, so it's not like you have a two-bar health meter.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:27 am

You can also be killed in a larger area from behind.

Yace D · Post by **Yace D** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:34 am

Improvement for Team France:

Yace, Team France,1901430, stage 5.

This level is pretty tough.

Pirate1019 · Post by **Pirate1019** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:50 am

Twiddle wrote:
Sonic R wrote:unless of course Raiden is win the vote lol that is not happen
Way, way more probable than you think.

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:09 am

Calm down everyone please. We just discovered this issue and can't react 24hours to every problem. We try to get our act together as quick as possible, which we can't not always do immidiately. I remember we also had some minor issues regarding ports and different versions last year. Which is quite difficult to look into in advance (i.e. at the poll stage), as we do not own all the possible games. Therefore I would like to ask you (the whole community taking part) to point out known issues and differences between ports and versions in advance. So that we can avoid a debatte like this every week.

So I admit that this aspect should be better organized for the future weeks. And we will take more attention to port-arcade diferences for Seibu Week. But still I think this short phase of unclarity didn't ruin the whole competition. So please, keep the critics in a non-trolling manner. As the organization is actually a lot of unpaid work too. So please contribute your critics in a constuctive way that it may indeed help to improve this event.

Well, anyway no harm taken or anything. I thought I'd just point it out early.

By the way, it might also be useful if you state the version you are playing the game on. (also in future if we find out about a problem mid-week, that we can easilly see which scores can't be counted.)

Like that:
Name - Team - Score - Stage - (Version)

Post by **Icarus** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:11 am

Yeah, sorry Edge.
Long day at work combined with no Sexy Paro means I'm quite irritable at the moment.
I bet SiK has already ALLed Yahhoo three times by now.

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:15 am

Icarus wrote:Yeah, sorry Edge.
Long day at work combined with no Sexy Paro means I'm quite irritable at the moment.
I bet SiK has already ALLed Yahhoo three times by now.

No offence taken, mate. Honestly, I am also a bit dissapointed that Yahhoo got chosen myself. Among those games definitely not among my favourites.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:42 am

[updated since my score wasn't put up yet]

Dave_K. - California Dudez - 1,330,100 - Stage 3 - (Mame w/Extends)

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:42 am

Holy crap you guys make me feel insufficient as a shmupper.

Arvandor - Team Fremont - 1,260,890 - 4 - MAME32 0.106

And that's after a half hour or so of playing

Do we just edit our initial post as our score grows? Or what?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:50 am

You post again because it's easier to track.

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:55 am

Zebra Airforce - California Dudez - 1041690 - Stage 4 - (Mame)
Wow, it can be hard to get the bells to cooperate. Favorite moment?
Destroying on of the 1st level midboss' wings, causing him to careen across the screen while firing his laser, instantly kiling me.
Also, I just realized I had my autofire set to 5. Big deal? Does my score not count?