R-Type Final 3 Evolved announced for PS5.

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Steven wrote:Just two days ago I realized that you actually get more (or less) materials depending on what your pilot is wearing. I wish I'd noticed that 2 years ago when the game launched, as that might have made unlocking ships less painful.
If it makes you feel any better, that wasn't in the base game; it got added in one of the patches after everyone complained about getting shorted on Etherium / Bydogen.

So now we get to dress like clowns in exchange for slightly less painful farming :)
xxx1993 wrote:Where exactly does the final mission of R-Type Final 3 Evolved take place in the R-Type timeline, anyway? As well as the final missions of R-Type Final 2?
"Whenever, Wherever" :wink:

I dunno, maybe it's post-Final 1 cleanup. I get the sense that it's temporally closer to the Tactics subseries, since that shares many ships with Final.
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I think 7.2 of Final 2 is based on Tactics. Because it’s the same Bydo Core.
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RTF 3 update is out in the US today (Friday 3/31). For a title change, there wasn't much added as far as I can tell:

1. Few new cosmetic items in the store.
2. Four new ships, but only two are playable now (two still in development)
3. Online stage is live, but not the leaderboard

So pretty meh........
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But what about the stages? Or is it just for the PS5?
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So, I dowloaded the latest update for R-Type Final 2 on PS5. It changes the game thumbnail to R-Type Final 3 but still shows as a PS4 game. Once launched, the splash screen is the same R-Type Final 2 one. Once in the game, the start screen and rest of the game is also the same old Final 2.
What's the deal? Is this in preparation for the actual Final 3 launch?
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Anyone got into any matches yet? I'm sat in the lobby RIGHT NOW
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Still the same old R-Type Final 2.5 Version 1.4.1 ( Image ) over here in PC land.
I feel only the tiniest modicum of envy for this entirely expected sleight against the platform.
postman wrote:RTF 3 update is out in the US today (Friday 3/31). For a title change, there wasn't much added as far as I can tell:

1. Few new cosmetic items in the store.
2. Four new ships, but only two are playable now (two still in development)
3. Online stage is live, but not the leaderboard

So pretty meh........
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Is it me, or is the 7.2 path in Final 2 and the final mission of Final 3 Evolved essentially the two Tactics games remade in shmup form?
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So I have the game on PS5… and…. Did they not give us the Volume 1 dlc set? Checked the psn store, and of course we can buy it, but wasnt it supposed to be free?

Anyway…

The original Final 3 campaign is really good.

Everything else added to the game is half-finished. Never saw anybody in the metaverse thing. It looks awful, too. The competition mode looks like it was made in a game generator.

I’d say this is only worth it if they fix it, or if you don’t have Final 2 on another console. The nee exclusive levels are really good, but like I said, the game seems unfinished.
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My copy of Evolved arrived today, and I quickly booted it up and ran through the first new stage.

Thankfully, there is an option to convert save data from the PS4 version. Looks like PS4 DLC should be compatible, but the save convert prompt mentions you have to redownload the DLC and I don't seem to be able to do that at the moment.

Insta-popped a few trophies due to the convert but not as many as I would have expected. The game isn't showing up in my trophy list so I can't really check on that further.

No idea if I can convert back to PS4. I may have just doubled the amount of stages I have remaining for Admiral if I want to platinum both versions, lol.
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The final boss is weak, though, right?
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Im really confused here.

I own the PS4 Digital Deluxe version, purchase on day 1 back in 2021. I now own a PS5 console and downloaded the game, but the art in the dashboard changed to Rtype Final 3, despite the actual title screen still saying 2 when you launch the game.

Was I upgraded to 3 or not lol? Doesn't seem that way since I'm able to purchase 3 from the PSN store. WTF.
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soupbones wrote:Im really confused here.

I own the PS4 Digital Deluxe version, purchase on day 1 back in 2021. I now own a PS5 console and downloaded the game, but the art in the dashboard changed to Rtype Final 3, despite the actual title screen still saying 2 when you launch the game.

Was I upgraded to 3 or not lol? Doesn't seem that way since I'm able to purchase 3 from the PSN store. WTF.
Granzella have made a confusing mess of it, that's for sure.

So, 'R-Type Final 3' was originally touted as the free upgrade to Final 2 that implemented the multiplayer component of the game. The previous last significant update was Final 2.5 which released level R1.0 (that would become the multiplayer challenge in Final 3) in a single player format. A new campaign level 5.1 was also released with Final 2.5 with the vague promise that further new levels would arrive down the line. That intention may still come to fruition in the form of new multiplayer levels, R2.0 R3.0 etc. but there has not been a peep about them.

It was only late last year that R-Type Final 3 EVOLVED for PS5 only was advertised. This included a new campaign of seven levels (E1.0 to E7.0) exclusive to that version only. To be fair, they had never promised a new campaign for the original Final 2 game.

So in summary, R-Type Final 3 is essentially the free upgrade of R-Type Final 2 with the level R1.0 being supposedly being playable multiplayer.
R-Type Final 3 Evolved for PS5 has the new campaign and apparently all the old campaign levels being rendered in Unreal 5.

They could have saved a lot of confusion by just not changing the name of Final 2 with the updates.
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R-Type Final 3 - "Upgrade" forPS4 R-Type Final 2.

R-Type Final 3 Evolved - PS5 only. Uses Unreal 5 engine.

I got Evolved today and Im only on level 2 and am impressed by the settings, effects, and music. The gameplay so far is a bit more refined than 2.

Some slowdown in some areas but it looks great doing it lol.

Once they patch it, they'll have a nice platform to launch more content.
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They really botched the messaging for this one. It's the Wii U all over again on forums, with people completely unclear as to what Evolved is compared to the original.
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The only difference that I consider to actually be meaningful is that Evolved gets 7 new stages, of which like half are mediocre, and non-Evolved doesn't. That's it.

Evolved has some of the new things that will eventually be in non-Evolved, but that stuff will eventually be there, and at that point all Evolved will have in its favour will be the 7 new stages.
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It's just such a backwards way to name things. Would have made SO much more sense had they gone with:

R-Type Final 2 Evolved (for the "upgraded" PS4 Final 2)
R-Type Final 3 (for the PS5 game)

Or maybe call the PS5 game R-Type Final 2.5 or something :P Such a mess.
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They should have just released this straight up as DLC for Final 2. Calling it "Final 3" is ridiculous. And to charge $50 for it? Sheesh.

I don't see the point in the UE5 upgrade. It basically looks the same as 2. Performance is still stuttery at points on the PS5. Why can't Granzella get this down? Seriously, Final 2 has been out for ages now, this is inexcusable. Not to mention some of the texture work in the Final 3 stages are atrocious. 360/PS3 level stuff, it's a joke.

Some of the new bosses are interesting, but some of the new levels themselves are a bit of a snooze-fest too. I don't know, it feels like a rip-off for people that already have Final 2.
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New stages are kinda disappointing. Those from RTF2 were more interesting with some unique enemies and level layouts. But Evolved new stuff feels cheap and rushed. Its also cheap to make you pay for DLC packs 2 and 3. If you already paid for them on Switch, you wasted 80€.
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I'm really looking forward to R-Type Tactics I*II Cosmos because all those games need is HD graphics and to be on modern platforms.
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Be careful with E5.0 boss. It looks glitched if you use shock cannon charge shot. I have been shooting double charged shots for 2 minutes and it just wont die. Exactly the same happened with 7.0 boss on RTF2 release.

PD: I have a question — the game box says Stage pass 1 is included, but its not in the game nor I can download in from the store. What is happening here?
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Aceskies wrote:Be careful with E5.0 boss. It looks glitched if you use shock cannon charge shot. I have been shooting double charged shots for 2 minutes and it just wont die. Exactly the same happened with 7.0 boss on RTF2 release.

PD: I have a question — the game box says Stage pass 1 is included, but its not in the game nor I can download in from the store. What is happening here?

I don’t have the DLC set either….
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I have it. However I had purchased it previously on PS4. On the other hand, I had to redownload RTF3E versions of DLC 4-9, but did not need to redownload 1-3 (in fact there doesn't seem to be any such DLC available to download.)

There was also a patch a few days ago. I didn't have any DLC access prior to that.
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I checked again the store and I can´t download anything. "R-type final 3 Stage pass" not available to downlolad because I don´t have "R-type final 2 stage pass". RTF2 stage pass and DLC sets are full price. So I can´t play to 1/3 of the game I paid. This is very disappointing.
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I got the PS5 version yesterday. A couple of questions:

- Is having only one life the only way to play the game? I really want to dig in and get to work, but it's absolutely destroying my ability to enjoy the game. Die once.... GAME OVER... Continue... Level Restart... PAIN.
- Any ship recommendations to chase early on?
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Jonpachi wrote:I got the PS5 version yesterday. A couple of questions:

- Is having only one life the only way to play the game? I really want to dig in and get to work, but it's absolutely destroying my ability to enjoy the game. Die once.... GAME OVER... Continue... Level Restart... PAIN.
This is how I've had to do the more difficult games in the R-Type series. Certain power ups like the bits above and below your ship are extremely limited. I think R-Type 1 only has three in the entire game. So if you die after the second one, you're never reaching full power. It's pretty much a forced game over since those bits matter a lot in the last three stages.

Individual chunks of the R-Type games are not as hard as a typical modern danmaku game, but you need to play perfect for the entire run time. That's part of the fun though. Playing through the game feels like putting on a rehearsed performance. I'd drill the routes so much that it was really only the execution in a few tricky spots that would ever be the difference between a good run and a bad run.

In Final 2, the Leo 2 is a very powerful ship, I definitely recommend that one if it's like that in Final 3 as well.
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Aceskies wrote:I checked again the store and I can´t download anything. "R-type final 3 Stage pass" not available to downlolad because I don´t have "R-type final 2 stage pass". RTF2 stage pass and DLC sets are full price. So I can´t play to 1/3 of the game I paid. This is very disappointing.
What I was getting at in my previous (rambling) post was I don't think any download is actually required for stage pass 1. I'm just not in the best position to judge having purchased it previously.

Are you on version 1.0.1?
Jonpachi wrote:I got the PS5 version yesterday. A couple of questions:

- Is having only one life the only way to play the game? I really want to dig in and get to work, but it's absolutely destroying my ability to enjoy the game. Die once.... GAME OVER... Continue... Level Restart... PAIN.
No, you can configure the number of ships per credit (probably in exchange for a lower resource bonus). Don't have the game in front of me right now so I can't tell you where.
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Zach Keene wrote:
Jonpachi wrote:I got the PS5 version yesterday. A couple of questions:

- Is having only one life the only way to play the game? I really want to dig in and get to work, but it's absolutely destroying my ability to enjoy the game. Die once.... GAME OVER... Continue... Level Restart... PAIN.
No you can configure the number of ships per credit (probably in exchange for a lower resource bonus). Don't have the game in front of me right now so I can´t tell you where.
Ok, found it! I've certainly played my share of R-Type games before, but I wasn't expecting it to default to 0 lives. Very tedious to learn anything that way.
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Yeah, it originally defaulted to 2 until they introduced the additional resource bonuses for handicaps (reduced lives, disable dose attack, etc) several updates back.
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Zach Keene wrote:
Aceskies wrote:I checked again the store and I can´t download anything. "R-type final 3 Stage pass" not available to downlolad because I don´t have "R-type final 2 stage pass". RTF2 stage pass and DLC sets are full price. So I can´t play to 1/3 of the game I paid. This is very disappointing.
What I was getting at in my previous (rambling) post was I don't think any download is actually required for stage pass 1. I'm just not in the best position to judge having purchased it previously.

Are you on version 1.0.1?
Yes, I am on version 1.0.1. Chose new game, and only 2 campaigns available: R-Type final 3 evolved and R-Type final 2.
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