Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch

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No mention of online leaderboards... that doesn't look promising (we might end up without them in all these ports)

But everything else is great :D
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This is looking pretty much like the 360 version. Gonna assume that Omake Mode is an unlockable and that the tutorial glitch will only be possible in Arcade Mode (not Normal Mode).
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Which is more prone to suffer from additional input lag, the 360 or the Switch? The latter is more powerful obviously, but it seems it's always a step below?
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Bassa-Bassa wrote:Which is more prone to suffer from additional input lag, the 360 or the Switch? The latter is more powerful obviously, but it seems it's always a step below?
They're pretty comparable, and it really just comes down to who did the port. Futari on the 360 has ~2 frames of lag, while Saidaioujou has ~5. Same thing on the Switch where games like Ikaruga and Cotton Reboot come in around 2 to 3, while the Psikyo ports are in the ~5 range.
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Interesting that the Switch is able to at least reach 360's figures somehow, thanks. The 360 versions will always have the advantage of CRT usage if wanted, though. Not just for better response, but for full screen gaming.
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I've been waiting for this time for a long time ... A popular shooting game at the arcade has arrived on Nintendo Switch™ !
eShop store page is now up: https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/e ... ii-switch/

Got my retro-bit Saturn pad and my USB→USB-C adapter dongle so I can balance my Switch Lite in tate position on my lap, all hunched over like some kind of caveman. My body is ready.

EDIT: Been a while since I've dusted off the 360 but it looks like all the modes are there? One of the menu screenshots shows Normal, Black, Arrange, Novice, Arcade(?), and Omake!, with one more I can't make out/remember.
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Any signs of physical releases for these? Have 360 DFK (albeit without DL Arrange) and Espgaluda II but I've only Mushi on Steam.
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They've been asked many times, and the answer is pretty consistently "we'd like to do it and we're thinking about it but nothing concrete to say". If it happens I guess we'll see it from a niche publisher like Limited Run. https://twitter.com/LiveWire_pr/status/ ... 2870295565
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Warp_Rattler wrote:EDIT: Been a while since I've dusted off the 360 but it looks like all the modes are there? One of the menu screenshots shows Normal, Black, Arrange, Novice, Arcade(?), and Omake!, with one more I can't make out/remember.
Pretty sure that's Novice Black Label. Seems like a pretty straight port of the 360 release.
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Warp_Rattler wrote:
I've been waiting for this time for a long time ... A popular shooting game at the arcade has arrived on Nintendo Switch™ !
eShop store page is now up: https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/e ... ii-switch/
The Engrish here is approaching SNK levels. The entry for Mushi was far more subdued: https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/m ... ma-switch/
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Is it not for sale yet? I don't have the option to purchase.
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RealPlumpBox wrote:Is it not for sale yet? I don't have the option to purchase.
Not yet. Nintendo stagger releases throughout the day on their download service. As of my typing this, there are still 10 games schedule to hit the service today that are listed as upcoming.
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Kiken wrote:
RealPlumpBox wrote:Is it not for sale yet? I don't have the option to purchase.
Not yet. Nintendo stagger releases throughout the day on their download service. As of my typing this, there are still 10 games schedule to hit the service today that are listed as upcoming.
Huh I didn't know that they I'd that. Learn something new everyday, thanks.
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Picked it up on the UK eshop earlier today. Leaderboard is not an option in the menu, unlike Mushi, where the Leaderboard option is there but inoperable. I live in hope of leaderboards at some point.
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Kiken wrote:
Warp_Rattler wrote:
I've been waiting for this time for a long time ... A popular shooting game at the arcade has arrived on Nintendo Switch™ !
eShop store page is now up: https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/e ... ii-switch/
The Engrish here is approaching SNK levels. The entry for Mushi was far more subdued: https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/m ... ma-switch/
Though it makes a point that Novice mode is for novice players/beginners.
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I like that there's tate option + the ability to remove the wallpaper & resize the screen to one's liking.

Too bad there's no online leaderboard support from the get-go.

Will Live Wire add online leaderboard support/functionality for it's upcoming Switch Dodonpachi Dai-Fukkatsu release?

It'd be nice if Live Wire were to port DDP-SDOJ to the Switch gaming platform as well.

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feels good to be able to play espgaluda II without having to bust out the 360, but yes... leaderboards pls
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PC Engine Fan X! wrote:I like that there's tate option + the ability to remove the wallpaper & resize the screen to one's liking.

Too bad there's no online leaderboard support from the get-go.

Will Live Wire add online leaderboard support/functionality for it's upcoming Switch Dodonpachi Dai-Fukkatsu release?

It'd be nice if Live Wire were to port DDP-SDOJ to the Switch gaming platform as well.

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Do you increase screen size to 150%? Or do you stretch it to fit the entire screen via the X/Y?
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RealPlumpBox wrote:
PC Engine Fan X! wrote:I like that there's tate option + the ability to remove the wallpaper & resize the screen to one's liking.

Too bad there's no online leaderboard support from the get-go.

Will Live Wire add online leaderboard support/functionality for it's upcoming Switch Dodonpachi Dai-Fukkatsu release?

It'd be nice if Live Wire were to port DDP-SDOJ to the Switch gaming platform as well.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~
Do you increase screen size to 150%? Or do you stretch it to fit the entire screen via the X/Y?
For RealPlumpBox,

I just use the 150% increased screen size + smoothing turned off for best results.

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Bought it. Again. (Have the 360 version as well).

Espgaluda II is an awesome game, but goddamn is it difficult. Still with music and visuals this cool its worth an attempt.
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Lots of fun menu typos and engrish in this one. Gameplay seems intact.
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This game is nice. Only played two stages so far, but I could see it getting very addictive. My Cave backlog is getting deep. Going to knock out Progear amd Esp Ra De before tackling this one.
To Far Away Times wrote:Bought it. Again. (Have the 360 version as well).

Espgaluda II is an awesome game, but goddamn is it difficult. Still with music and visuals this cool its worth an attempt.
Definitely difficult, and although I only played two stages, I was kind of surprised it ranks higher than Ketsui on the difficulty list. Maybe it really ramps up in the later levels.
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To Far Away Times wrote:Bought it. Again. (Have the 360 version as well).

Espgaluda II is an awesome game, but goddamn is it difficult. Still with music and visuals this cool its worth an attempt.
Me too (buying again and having the 360 version). Nice that two Esp games (esprade and espgaluda 2) are now on Switch.
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What's the easiest mode here after Novice?
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For 20 buckaroos, I picked up ESPGaluda II as well. I've been brushing up on GaijinPunch's ST thread, but I don't know how 'up to date' it is. Watching a few replays as well but for a novice like myself a lot of the game's mechanics are obscured from me (namely, the alternative slowdown mode, and the two different types of red bullet modes).
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That's understandable. I think it probably took me ten years to really "get" it. When I originally got the X360 port it just made me not want to play the game :P
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there's stgweekly #96 which covers espgaluda II as just another resource (it's pretty entertaining)
https://youtu.be/IPW6C9jyeYw
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This is the one Cave game (well other than Guwange) that just never really clicked for me. I actually have the 360 LE sitting on my desk as a reminder to get back to it someday.
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Warp_Rattler wrote: EDIT: Been a while since I've dusted off the 360 but it looks like all the modes are there? One of the menu screenshots shows Normal, Black, Arrange, Novice, Arcade(?), and Omake!, with one more I can't make out/remember.
Yeah Omake mode is available on Switch and unlocks by clearing the game (you can clear it on Novice to get it easily).

I had never played Omake! version before but I'm having a lot of fun with it so far. Nice to see another great port on the Switch!
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The audio is a mess in this version, particularly explosions. One of the worst offenders is the stage 3 midboss... when the first form is destroyed the noise is insane (with headphones at medium volume this explosion is ear-splitting)!

Just like on the 360 version, the tutorial glitch can only be used in Arcade mode.
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