Herr Schatten wrote:like every year, I have to bemoan the lack of Shiki II.
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Herr Schatten wrote:like every year, I have to bemoan the lack of Shiki II.
Best case scenario, he's doing maintenance on it at the moment. Second best case, going commercial with it (e.g. M2 ShotTriggers treatment). Worst, killing it off for some personal reason (e.g. artist's impostor syndrome).copy-paster wrote:Sadly CRS downloads are no longer available on developer's current site. No idea why he pulled it off really.
I have no idea, but if you ask the post above yours it might be able to come up with something.HectorReborn11 wrote: So does anyone know how to get a copy of Cho Ren Sha 68K? I'm dying to play it now!
R-Type is just something special. May never drop the top! But I think R-Type II improves on it in many ways (especially gameplay-wise)Bydobasher wrote:1987's R-Type is by far the oldest title -- the only one from the '80s.
Gekirindan yes!! Mad luvKobayashi wrote:I believe that the sudden appearance of two Darius games in the top 25 was due to the influence of Darius Cozmic Collections for Switch and PS4, since the younger voters were not very familiar with the bigger classics of these Taito's "Big Fish" series.
Two cool things on the list (and I totally agree) is that Darius Gaiden is the best game in Darius series and, on the side of Gradius, the V is also the best (some Konamists hate to hear this, but Gradius Gaiden is only deservedly the runner-up).
I can't understand how most prefer Mushihimesama Futari to the original, just as I don't understand the exaggerated exaltation of Battle Garegga, which is very good, but not worthy of second place in my understanding.
I had a regret: I didn't even put an honorable mention to Gekirindan, one of Taito's finest shmups.
Sengoku Strider wrote:I have no idea, but if you ask the post above yours it might be able to come up with something.HectorReborn11 wrote: So does anyone know how to get a copy of Cho Ren Sha 68K? I'm dying to play it now!
One of the best parts of these lists is getting to catch up on things that I missed at the time. I wasn't even aware there was such a game as Rolling Gunner. Just watched some video and I like what I see....SPM wrote:So happy to see that Rolling Gunner made it into the HM list. I hope it gets to top25 when (if) it hits Steam or PC in general in a digital format.
I haven't played it, but it sure looks like an overhead run'n'gun to me . . . may have to look further into this one also....SPM wrote: think I'm the only one who voted for Enter the Gungeon here. Don't you consider it a shmup? don't like it? haven't played it? I love it. It feels more like a shmup than a top-down run 'n' gun for me.
I am! Of course, I just started to play it very seriously only a month ago. But I'm completely blown away by the game, it's one of my all-time favourites right now.EmperorIng wrote:RSG starting to look more and more weird the longer it stays on the list. How many people are actively playing the game???
I think the scoring systems in both modes are super solid and up there with the greats. More so than say the balance of RSGs system/pacing for example (not that its bad). So it has entry appeal and also lasting appeal. Being a newer indie game by fans of the genre etc. probably pushes it higher than it should be due to added appeal of that, but thats voting for you.. moreso it means a lot of people tried it probablyMX7 wrote:So what's the deal with ZeroRanger? I bought it instantly after seeing the ranking. It's a fun enough game, but seeing it at 12th place is a bit of a headscratcher.
I saw your vote for it. I was curious about whether or not it would be included in the final list with all the games. It was my favorite game from the last console generation. I would definitely give Enter the Gungeon a respectable score relative to my top shmups in a ballot if it's eligible.SPM wrote:I think I'm the only one who voted for Enter the Gungeon here. Don't you consider it a shmup? don't like it? haven't played it? I love it. It feels more like a shmup than a top-down run 'n' gun for me.
Yes loving natsuki chroniclesZaarock wrote:I think the scoring systems in both modes are super solid and up there with the greats. More so than say the balance of RSGs system/pacing for example (not that its bad). So it has entry appeal and also lasting appeal. Being a newer indie game by fans of the genre etc. probably pushes it higher than it should be due to added appeal of that, but thats voting for you.. moreso it means a lot of people tried it probablyMX7 wrote:So what's the deal with ZeroRanger? I bought it instantly after seeing the ranking. It's a fun enough game, but seeing it at 12th place is a bit of a headscratcher.
Normal mode has some really cool chaining routes using the weapon system and tight stage portions. (a few dp/ddp/ikaruga fans seem to agree if you look at leaderboards.. I think the chinese player who has WR is an Ikaruga player too)
Easy being JSS/Eschatos style time attack but with scroll speed throttling the faster you kill enemies.
Similar to Qute games like Eschatos or G.Rev's Strania I guess the bullet and stage patterns being a mix of older and new school (fast bullets & danmaku) appeals to a group of people who like that kind of hybrid.
For me the main thing was there really aren't games with this kind of multiple weapon system apart from Radiant Silvergun or Hellsinker. Add good scoring & pacing on top of that and it was already in my list back in 2015 or so, as the core gameplay was the same. Though I always thought the first loop of normal mode gets kind of boring as you aren't fully playing the game in a sense and there isn't much to do. (loops are a mistake in general tbh)
Kinda sad Natsuki Chronicles got ported right after the voting closed, would've thrown it in there somewhere for sure as it's from 2019 and really solid if not as ambitious as ginga force. Makes up for it by being more approachable & having arcade mode from the get-go for sure though.
It fits into the criteria, and Nifty confirmed itAcid wrote:I saw your vote for it. I was curious about whether or not it would be included in the final list with all the games. It was my favorite game from the last console generation. I would definitely give Enter the Gungeon a respectable score relative to my top shmups in a ballot if it's eligible.SPM wrote:I think I'm the only one who voted for Enter the Gungeon here. Don't you consider it a shmup? don't like it? haven't played it? I love it. It feels more like a shmup than a top-down run 'n' gun for me.
You could see it as a modern take on the overhead run 'n' gun formula... in a "similar" way bullet-hells compare to classic shmups. But this modern take makes it feel more like an arena-based shmup with its bullet density and patterns. Not to mention boss fights, totally shmuppy (and awesome).Bydobasher wrote:I haven't played it, but it sure looks like an overhead run'n'gun to me . . . may have to look further into this one also....SPM wrote: think I'm the only one who voted for Enter the Gungeon here. Don't you consider it a shmup? don't like it? haven't played it? I love it. It feels more like a shmup than a top-down run 'n' gun for me.
Highly recommended!Bydobasher wrote:One of the best parts of these lists is getting to catch up on things that I missed at the time. I wasn't even aware there was such a game as Rolling Gunner. Just watched some video and I like what I see....SPM wrote:So happy to see that Rolling Gunner made it into the HM list. I hope it gets to top25 when (if) it hits Steam or PC in general in a digital format.
Did you get ALL THREE windows versions?Iori Branford wrote:
I put my copies up here just in case.
Older versions are up now but I'm not aware if they have some advantages? The changelog doesn't list any other than losing the score reset option in 2005.qmish wrote:Did you get ALL THREE windows versions?
If not, still reachable
http://web.archive.org/web/201712061426 ... nload.html
● Update history
2017/05/23
-Fixed an issue where sound was corrupted in a multi-core environment
・ Rebuild with VS2015
Visual Studio 2015 Visual C ++ Redistributable Package is required.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downloa ... x?id=48145
2005/08/20
-Changed the archiver type from EXE format to ZIP format
-Update of mxdrv.dll / X68Sound.dll
-Fixed a bug that failed to restore the desktop window position and size.
・ Difficulty selection function added to CONFIG mode in response to user requests
(HARD = equivalent to the 3rd lap)
-Removed score initialization function from CONFIG mode
-Correct URL and email address in the document
2001/09/12
・ Lowered the generation of DirectDrawSurface by one
-In an environment where the DirectSound primary buffer cannot be used
Changed to use secondary buffer
・ Improved stability of multimedia timer
-Fixed a bug that the surface could not be restored
・ The BGM on the 5th and 6th sides was the opposite of the X68K version, so it was corrected.
-Assigned the frame rate adjustment function to the F G H J keys
2001/08/22
-Added APP_LOG.TXT for bug investigation
-It seems that optimized compilation was turned off, so I fixed it.
08/08/2001
・ Release of the completed version of the Windows version
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1. 2. 3.
2002 DDP TF3 Ikaruga
2003 DDP Ikaruga TF3
2004 DDP Ikaruga Gradius V
2005 DDP Gradius V Ikaruga
2006 DDP Gradius V Garegga
2007 Gradius V Ikaruga DaiOuJou
2008 Garegga DDP DaiOuJou
2009 Garegga DDP Ketsui
2010 Garegga Batrider DaiOuJou
2012 Garegga M.Futari Ketsui
2013 Garegga M.Futari Ketsui
2014 M.Futari Garegga DaiOuJou
2015 Garegga Ketsui M.Futari
2016 DaiOuJou Garegga Ketsui
2017 DaiOuJou Ketsui Garegga
2018 Ketsui Garegga DaiOuJou
2019 M.Futari Garegga Ketsui
2020 Ketsui Garegga DaiOuJou
I did mate, good postBydobasher wrote:Well, I took it upon myself to make a little table for the Top 25, with a column for each of the 18 years we've done this. It's too large to recreate here, but I'll show the top 3 games for every contest if anyone is interested:Some observations, not just on the table above, but also the full table on my computer:Code: Select all
1. 2. 3. 2002 DDP TF3 Ikaruga 2003 DDP Ikaruga TF3 2004 DDP Ikaruga Gradius V 2005 DDP Gradius V Ikaruga 2006 DDP Gradius V Garegga 2007 Gradius V Ikaruga DaiOuJou 2008 Garegga DDP DaiOuJou 2009 Garegga DDP Ketsui 2010 Garegga Batrider DaiOuJou 2012 Garegga M.Futari Ketsui 2013 Garegga M.Futari Ketsui 2014 M.Futari Garegga DaiOuJou 2015 Garegga Ketsui M.Futari 2016 DaiOuJou Garegga Ketsui 2017 DaiOuJou Ketsui Garegga 2018 Ketsui Garegga DaiOuJou 2019 M.Futari Garegga Ketsui 2020 Ketsui Garegga DaiOuJou
1. There are only two games that have been on the T25 every single year since this started. Can you guess what they are? Perhaps the answer will surprise you:That's it. Every other game has had at least one "miss".Spoiler
DoDonPachi
Ikaruga
2. Speaking of those "one miss" games, there are five of them. Can you guess what they are?3. As you can see from the table above, we have had only 6 games occupy the top spot in 18 years. DoDonPachi (2002-2006), Gradius V (2007), Battle Garegga (2008-2010, 2012, 2013, 2015), Mushihimesama Futari (2014, 2019), DoDonPachi DaiOuJou (2016, 2017), and the most recent and current title-holder, Ketsui (2018, 2020).Spoiler
R-Type (miss in 2006)
Battle Garegga (miss in 2004)
Radiant Silvergun (miss in 2010)
Mars Matrix (miss in 2018)
DoDonPachi DaiOuJou (miss in 2002, a year when it was available only in the arcades)
4. Expanding on Garegga a little bit more: you could certainly argue this is the all-time king -- notwithstanding its miss in 2004. Besides having the most #1 placings (six), it's also been in the top 3 for thirteen of the past fourteen contests!
5. Expanding a bit on the top 3, it's notable that those positions have been completely monopolized by some combination of Garegga, DaiOuJou, Mushi Futari and Ketsui for nine consecutive years! Goodness, some things really don't change, do they?
6. I note several games that were part of the T25 in the very first contest, but never made the list again: Soldier Blade, Gradius III (SNES), Gate of Thunder, Blazing Lazers, Gunbird, and Lords of Thunder. I'm rather partial to most of those....
7. The most calamitous "crash" probably belongs to Thunder Force III. It made the list six straight years (2002-2007), and its placings were: #2, #3, #6, #9, #12, #25. After that it was never seen again....
8. Conversely, there have been some hugely impressive showings by indie games in recent years. Crimzon Clover burst on to the list in 2014 at #10, and it's been somewhere between #5 and #8 in every subsequent contest. There's also ZeroRanger, which squeaked on to the list at #25 for 2018 -- even though it was released late in the year. Since then, it's only moved up, achieving #21 last year, and #12 this year. Wow!
I hope someone may find this interesting.
Advantages? Maybe for those few who build retro pc setups.Iori Branford wrote: Older versions are up now but I'm not aware if they have some advantages? The changelog doesn't list any other than losing the score reset option in 2005.
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###. Game Name Total Score|Votes|HMs|SLs|Total Game Weight
Top 25:
001. Ketsui : 7.758621 33 3 2 2.050204
002. Battle Garegga : 7.483265 35 2 2 1.890165
003. DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou Black Label / White Label : 6.910861 30 0 1 1.867546
004. Mushihimesama Futari / 1.5 / Black Label : 6.657735 30 0 3 1.716623
005. Ikaruga : 5.450162 22 3 2 1.449270
006. Crimzon Clover / World Ignition / World EXplosion : 5.382052 28 0 4 1.232818
007. DoDonPachi : 5.319323 24 2 2 1.348489
008. Armed Police Batrider : 4.839537 26 2 1 1.112481
009. Radiant Silvergun : 4.449568 23 1 1 1.062551
010. Darius Gaiden / Extra : 4.265736 23 2 1 0.971462
011. Gradius V : 4.180953 20 1 0 1.070236
012. ZeroRanger : 4.173523 20 0 3 1.012203
013. Dangun Feveron : 3.923300 15 1 1 1.098126
014. Mushihimesama : 3.640400 18 0 2 0.880008
015. R-Type : 3.631977 20 1 0 0.845133
016. ESP Ra.De. / Psi : 3.378033 16 2 3 0.780282
017. Gradius Gaiden : 3.365529 16 1 0 0.861562
018. ESPGaluda / Arrange : 3.219562 15 3 2 0.754578
019. Gunbird 2 : 3.191304 15 1 0 0.821543
020. RayForce/Layer Section/Gunlock/Galactic Attack : 3.176093 18 0 0 0.736754
021. Mars Matrix : 3.144950 13 1 1 0.841812
022. G-Darius : 3.003055 17 1 0 0.681512
023. Deathsmiles / Mega Black Label : 2.848010 17 2 1 0.578661
024. Cho Ren Sha 68K : 2.700184 14 1 1 0.628019
025. Strikers 1945 II : 2.549775 17 1 1 0.472083
Honorable Mention:
026. Dragon Blaze : 2.488372 12 2 1 0.588298
027. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu / 1.5 / Resurrection : 2.430386 12 1 1 0.580232
028. Progear no Arashi : 2.351785 11 0 1 0.595134
029. Blue Revolver : 2.240867 11 1 2 0.510377
030. Raiden Fighters Jet : 2.232341 10 3 0 0.554012
031. Ibara : 2.164536 14 0 0 0.447657
032. Eschatos : 2.099834 09 2 2 0.499679
033. Muchi Muchi Pork! : 2.090097 12 0 0 0.479976
034. Gradius II / Vulcan Venture : 2.079502 12 4 0 0.412790
035. Guwange : 2.070721 11 1 2 0.440610
036. DoDonPachi Saidaioujou : 2.048270 10 1 0 0.509956
037. ESPGaluda II : 2.025161 12 1 1 0.414073
038. Soukyugurentai / Terra Diver : 1.999741 11 1 0 0.458637
039. Battle Bakraid : 1.990704 12 0 1 0.415655
040. Batsugun / Batsugun Special : 1.984628 12 2 0 0.405309
041. Hellsinker : 1.931219 10 1 1 0.438395
042. Strikers 1945 III / Strikers 1999 : 1.928713 11 2 0 0.413802
043. Flying Shark / Hishouzame : 1.922517 08 0 1 0.513379
044. Under Defeat : 1.710375 08 2 1 0.394971
045. Flame Zapper Kotsujin : 1.701789 07 0 2 0.430726
046. R-Type Delta : 1.677745 10 0 0 0.373736
047. Thunder Dragon 2 : 1.645235 08 1 0 0.407537
048. Imperishable Night [Touhou 8] : 1.623946 08 0 2 0.367387
049. Raiden DX : 1.608889 10 1 0 0.329792
050. Neko Navy : 1.586507 09 0 2 0.320615
051. Giga Wing : 1.565060 12 2 1 0.209703
052. Gradius : 1.447281 08 0 1 0.318513
053. Thunder Force IV / Lightening Force : 1.434624 06 3 2 0.305468
054. Twin Cobra / Kyukyoku Tiger : 1.412705 07 0 1 0.335756
055. Darius Burst: AC / EX / Chronicle Saviours : 1.412169 09 1 0 0.280550
056. DonPachi : 1.403541 06 0 1 0.363419
057. Salamander 2 : 1.385274 07 1 0 0.332363
058. Dimahoo / Great Mahou Daisakusen : 1.366756 08 0 0 0.309060
059. Akai Katana : 1.356800 07 0 0 0.336398
060. Mahou Daisakusen / Sorcer Striker : 1.332202 09 0 0 0.263470
061. Gradius III (SNES) : 1.317874 08 2 0 0.257595
062. Kamui : 1.309794 08 3 0 0.238572
063. Perfect Cherry Blossom [Touhou 7] : 1.287336 07 0 0 0.307915
064. Rolling Gunner : 1.282755 05 0 2 0.321747
065. Tatsujin / Truxton : 1.277914 06 0 3 0.264776
The Rest:
066. Fire Shark / Same! Same! Same! : 1.194511 07 1 0 0.254142
067. Gun.Smoke (ARC) : 1.185837 08 1 0 0.219165
068. Border Down : 1.175467 07 0 0 0.262044
069. Twinkle Star Sprites : 1.169898 06 2 0 0.259760
070. Raiden Fighters 2 : 1.162576 07 1 0 0.241048
071. Illvelo : 1.149353 03 0 1 0.353454
072. Radirgy : 1.123215 03 0 1 0.342736
073. Salamander / Life Force (ARC/PCE) : 1.106593 07 1 1 0.194527
074. Great Fairy Wars [Touhou 12.8] : 1.093588 04 0 1 0.299167
075. Tatsujin Oh / Truxton II : 1.081463 05 0 1 0.262775
076. Super Spacefortress Macross II : 1.068636 08 0 0 0.186818
077. Zero Gunner 2 : 1.034943 06 1 1 0.196569
078. Blazing Star : 1.033180 05 3 1 0.195846
079. Judgement Silversword : 1.031447 05 2 0 0.234411
080. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu Black Label : 1.023792 05 0 0 0.262692
081. Sengoku Blade / Tengai : 1.006623 05 0 1 0.232087
082. Blazing Lazers : 1.002826 06 1 0 0.206965
083. Psyvariar Revision : 0.988664 05 0 0 0.248289
084. Cyvern: The Dragon Weapons : 0.980953 06 1 0 0.197996
085. Sisters Royale : 0.942093 03 0 0 0.292034
086. Mecha Ritz / Steel Rondo : 0.925552 03 5 2 0.159569
087. Raiden : 0.915625 05 1 0 0.202630
088. Soldier Blade : 0.906872 04 4 0 0.183330
089. Omega Fighter / Omega Fighter Special : 0.861878 05 0 1 0.172736
090. Super Aleste / Space Megaforce : 0.860624 04 2 0 0.195787
091. Ginga Force : 0.857259 06 1 0 0.147276
092. Zanac Neo : 0.857224 05 1 0 0.178683
093. Strikers 1945 : 0.846138 06 2 0 0.127006
094. Einhänder : 0.836976 04 2 0 0.186090
095. GG Aleste 3 : 0.831563 05 0 1 0.160305
096. Hydorah / Super Hydorah : 0.830457 04 0 1 0.191273
097. Metal Black : 0.828421 05 2 0 0.151162
098. Akai Katana Shin : 0.826308 05 0 0 0.181716
099. Thunder Cross : 0.816302 05 0 0 0.177613
100. Out Zone : 0.789373 04 1 0 0.182282
101. Pink Sweets : 0.771762 05 0 0 0.159350
102. Caladrius / Caladrius Blaze : 0.771170 06 0 0 0.127687
103. Raiden II : 0.769922 05 0 0 0.158596
104. Galaga : 0.749828 05 0 1 0.126791
105. Shikigami no Shiro II : 0.730368 04 0 1 0.150232
106. Super XYX : 0.729562 04 0 0 0.173467
107. Danmaku Unlimited 3 : 0.722357 02 1 2 0.170513
108. Zanac (NES) : 0.718437 04 2 0 0.137485
109. Guardian Force : 0.716885 03 2 0 0.168269
110. Triggerheart Exelica : 0.709594 04 0 1 0.141714
111. Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream [Touhou 3] : 0.684348 02 0 1 0.194204
112. Undefined Fantastic Object [Touhou 12] : 0.683365 04 1 0 0.138814
113. Revolver360 Re:actor : 0.676903 03 0 0 0.183295
114. Gradius III (ARC) : 0.661990 05 2 0 0.082919
115. Viper Phase 1 : 0.658404 03 1 0 0.160000
116. P-47 Aces : 0.656101 02 1 0 0.190476
117. Vasara 2 : 0.634511 04 0 0 0.134492
118. Raiden Fighters : 0.626834 04 0 0 0.131345
119. Dezatopia : 0.619537 02 0 1 0.167628
120. Pulstar : 0.615700 05 1 0 0.079648
121. Brave Blade : 0.613202 03 1 0 0.141465
122. Musha Aleste / M.U.S.H.A. : 0.584368 03 5 0 0.066800
123. 19XX: The War Against Destiny : 0.582964 04 0 0 0.113356
124. Thunder Force AC : 0.568357 03 1 0 0.123077
125. Thunder Force V : 0.565027 04 3 0 0.058870
126. Double Spoiler [Touhou 12.5] : 0.564385 01 0 0 0.200000
127. Kingdom Grandprix / Shippu Mahou Daisakusen : 0.542709 03 2 0 0.096850
128. Xevious : 0.542462 03 0 0 0.128169
129. Mr. Heli no Daibouken : 0.542036 03 0 0 0.127995
130. Giga Wing 2 : 0.538252 03 0 0 0.126443
131. StellaVanity : 0.534318 03 0 1 0.101264
132. Robotron: 2084 : 0.531828 01 1 0 0.170940
133. Trizeal : 0.531724 03 0 0 0.123766
134. Fantasy Zone : 0.525538 03 1 0 0.105519
135. Last Resort : 0.523381 02 0 2 0.104635
136. Seisou Kouki Strania / The Stella Machina : 0.522627 03 1 0 0.104326
137. Parodius Da! : 0.516306 03 0 0 0.117444
138. Harmful Park : 0.508907 03 0 0 0.114410
139. RayStorm : 0.506849 03 0 0 0.113566
140. R-Type Leo : 0.506776 03 1 0 0.097826
141. Gunbird : 0.503273 03 2 1 0.057114
142. GunNail : 0.492185 02 0 0 0.138974
143. Infinos Gaiden : 0.485643 02 1 0 0.120582
144. Bangai-O (DC) : 0.483092 01 0 0 0.166667
144. Forgotten Worlds : 0.483092 01 0 0 0.166667
146. Galaga '88 / Galaga '90 : 0.478625 02 2 1 0.078428
147. Karous : 0.477486 02 0 1 0.109381
148. Lords of Thunder : 0.471960 03 0 0 0.099261
149. Shoot the Bullet [Touhou 9.5] : 0.466833 01 0 0 0.160000
150. In The Hunt / Kaitei Daisensou : 0.458175 04 0 0 0.062187
151. Sexy Parodius : 0.451858 04 0 0 0.059597
152. Dogyuun : 0.442204 03 0 0 0.087060
153. GleyLancer : 0.438407 02 0 0 0.116923
154. Sky Adventure : 0.437663 03 1 0 0.069487
155. Phantasmagoria of Flower View [Touhou 9] : 0.423771 02 0 0 0.110922
156. Raiden IV : 0.422318 03 2 0 0.047485
157. Cotton Boomerang : 0.418408 02 0 0 0.108723
158. Bio-Hazard Battle : 0.408355 02 0 0 0.104601
159. Thunder Force III : 0.407195 02 0 0 0.104125
160. R-Type II : 0.404939 02 0 1 0.079635
161. Game Tengoku : 0.403411 03 0 0 0.071153
162. Pocky & Rocky / KiKi KaiKai: Nazo no Kuro Manto : 0.393109 03 1 0 0.051218
163. Xevious Arrangement : 0.390138 02 0 0 0.097131
164. Mamoru-kun wa Norowarete Shimatta! : 0.388346 02 0 0 0.096396
165. Recca [Summer Carnival '92] : 0.387933 02 3 0 0.049096
166. Fantasy Zone II / DX / 3D Fantasy Zone II W : 0.387490 02 1 0 0.080335
167. TxK : 0.385879 02 0 0 0.095385
168. Gun Frontier : 0.385423 02 1 0 0.079487
169. Sanvein : 0.379170 02 1 0 0.076923
170. Battle Traverse : 0.378918 02 0 1 0.068965
171. Shienryu : 0.372600 02 1 0 0.074229
172. Monolith : 0.368209 02 2 0 0.056718
173. Dragon Breed : 0.365960 02 1 0 0.071507
174. Granada : 0.363474 02 0 0 0.086198
175. Ibara Kuro : 0.355173 02 0 0 0.082794
176. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil [Touhou 6] : 0.353166 02 0 0 0.081971
177. Gokujou Parodius : 0.352906 02 1 0 0.066154
178. DeltaZeal / G-Stream G2020 : 0.351524 02 0 0 0.081298
179. Hyper Duel : 0.350821 02 2 0 0.049589
180. Image Fight : 0.350783 02 0 0 0.080994
181. TwinBee Yahho! : 0.348141 02 0 0 0.079911
182. Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire : 0.345052 02 1 0 0.062934
183. Tempest 4000 : 0.333351 02 0 0 0.073846
184. Graze Counter : 0.330674 02 0 0 0.072748
185. Varth: Operation Thunderstorm : 0.328475 02 0 0 0.071847
186. Apidya : 0.326515 02 0 0 0.071043
187. V-V [V-Five] / Grind Stormer : 0.314111 02 1 0 0.050247
188. 1943: The Battle of Midway (ARC) : 0.313857 02 0 0 0.065852
189. Axelay : 0.310609 02 3 0 0.017390
190. Murasaki Tsurugi : 0.310484 01 0 0 0.095890
191. Fast Striker : 0.300593 01 0 1 0.068269
192. Salamander / Life Force (NES) : 0.299643 02 1 0 0.044314
193. Assault : 0.298336 01 0 0 0.090909
194. Super Star Soldier : 0.295832 01 2 0 0.058462
195. Gradius IV: Fukkatsu : 0.291865 02 2 0 0.025414
196. Gate of Thunder : 0.289917 01 4 0 0.024615
197. Subterranean Animism [Touhou 11] : 0.287567 02 0 0 0.055073
198. Mystic Square [Touhou 5] : 0.286807 02 0 0 0.054761
199. Power Strike II (SMS) : 0.284127 02 0 0 0.053662
200. X-Multiply : 0.283841 02 0 0 0.053545
201. Guxt : 0.281762 02 0 0 0.052692
202. SkyForce Anniversary : 0.277193 02 0 0 0.050819
203. Gaplus : 0.274464 01 0 1 0.057555
204. BioMetal : 0.273320 02 0 0 0.049231
205. Eliminate Down : 0.272525 01 1 0 0.064615
206. Enter the Gungeon : 0.270865 00 0 1 0.087500
207. Black Bird : 0.265816 02 0 0 0.046154
208. Super Spacefortress Macross : 0.265555 02 0 0 0.046047
209. Power Strike / Aleste : 0.264227 01 0 0 0.076923
210. Raiden III : 0.257889 01 0 0 0.074324
211. F/A / Fighter & Attacker : 0.253994 01 0 0 0.072727
212. Jikkyo Oshaberi Parodius : 0.253825 01 2 0 0.041237
213. Crisis Wing : 0.253445 00 0 1 0.080357
214. Shikigami no Shiro III : 0.252540 02 0 0 0.040710
215. Space Invaders Extreme 2 : 0.251953 01 1 0 0.056180
216. Air Gallet : 0.250827 01 0 0 0.071429
217. Darius Burst : 0.249219 01 0 0 0.070769
217. Every Extend Extra : 0.249219 01 0 0 0.070769
219. Darius II : 0.244262 02 1 0 0.021605
220. Cambria Sword : 0.243668 01 0 0 0.068493
221. Exed Exes : 0.242532 01 0 0 0.068027
221. Detana!! TwinBee : 0.242532 01 0 0 0.068027
223. Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom [Touhou 15] : 0.241783 02 0 0 0.036300
224. Thundercade : 0.241715 01 0 0 0.067692
224. TranscendPang : 0.241715 01 0 0 0.067692
226. Sturmwind : 0.240943 01 0 0 0.067376
227. Zed Blade / Operation Ragnarok : 0.240646 02 0 0 0.035833
228. Kaikan : 0.235006 01 1 0 0.049231
229. Pleasure Hearts : 0.234211 01 0 0 0.064615
230. Eden's Aegis : 0.228986 01 1 0 0.046763
231. Steel Vampire : 0.226707 01 0 0 0.061538
231. Satazius : 0.226707 01 0 0 0.061538
233. DoDonPachi II: Bee Storm : 0.226434 00 1 1 0.053571
234. Xexex : 0.226089 02 1 0 0.014154
235. Nostradamus : 0.222043 02 0 0 0.028205
236. U.N. Squadron / Area 88 (ARC) : 0.219998 01 1 0 0.043077
236. Polybius : 0.219998 01 1 0 0.043077
238. RefleX : 0.219203 01 0 0 0.058462
238. Geometry Wars 2 : 0.219203 01 0 0 0.058462
240. Shining Shooting Star : 0.217327 01 0 0 0.057692
241. Bosconian : 0.217161 01 0 1 0.034058
242. Ordyne : 0.214871 02 0 0 0.025264
243. Nex Machina : 0.213639 01 0 0 0.056180
244. Resogun : 0.213570 01 1 0 0.040441
245. XII Stag / XIIZeal : 0.212494 01 1 0 0.040000
246. Viewpoint : 0.211699 01 0 0 0.055385
247. Exzisus : 0.210493 02 0 0 0.023469
248. Metal Hawk : 0.209653 01 0 0 0.054545
249. Sengoku Ace : 0.205723 02 0 0 0.021514
250. Gekirindan : 0.204990 01 1 0 0.036923
251. The Guardian Legend : 0.204195 01 0 0 0.052308
252. Twinkle Tale : 0.202783 02 0 0 0.020308
253. Bullet Soul / Infinite Burst : 0.201424 01 1 0 0.035461
254. Hitogata Happa : 0.198567 01 0 0 0.050000
254. Gratia - Second Earth : 0.198567 01 0 0 0.050000
256. Akashicverse : 0.198162 01 0 0 0.049834
257. Thunder Dragon : 0.196691 01 0 0 0.049231
257. Space Giraffe : 0.196691 01 0 0 0.049231
257. Strikers 1945 Plus : 0.196691 01 0 0 0.049231
260. Mountain of Faith [Touhou 10] : 0.195924 02 0 0 0.017495
261. Radirgy Noa : 0.189357 02 0 0 0.014803
262. Vimana : 0.188120 00 0 1 0.053571
262. Zero Wing : 0.188120 00 0 1 0.053571
264. Star Force : 0.187775 02 0 0 0.014154
265. Raiden V : 0.184128 01 1 0 0.028369
266. Z-Out : 0.181648 01 0 0 0.043062
267. Bangai-O HD: Missile Fury : 0.176852 01 0 0 0.041096
268. Terra Cresta : 0.175498 01 0 0 0.040541
269. Sky Force Reloaded : 0.175256 01 0 0 0.040441
270. Maiden & Spell : 0.174180 01 0 0 0.040000
271. Slap Fight : 0.171523 01 0 0 0.038911
271. eXceed 3rd - Jade Penetrate Black Package : 0.171523 01 0 0 0.038911
273. Aldynes: The Misson Code for Rage Crisis : 0.171155 01 0 0 0.038760
274. Space Manbow : 0.170911 01 0 0 0.038660
275. Radirgy Swag : 0.169456 00 0 1 0.045918
276. Tumiki Fighters : 0.168083 01 0 0 0.037500
276. E.D.F.: Earth Defense Force : 0.168083 01 0 0 0.037500
278. Last Breakers : 0.166676 01 0 0 0.036923
279. Soldner X-2: Final Prototype : 0.166289 01 0 0 0.036765
280. Fixeight : 0.165311 01 0 0 0.036364
281. The Bug Butcher : 0.164168 00 0 1 0.043750
282. Deathsmiles II : 0.163110 01 0 0 0.035461
282. Psyvariar Medium Unit : 0.163110 01 0 0 0.035461
284. Shikigami no Shiro : 0.161015 01 0 0 0.034602
285. Assault Android Cactus : 0.160148 01 0 0 0.034247
286. Tempest 2000 : 0.159172 01 0 0 0.033846
286. Space Bomber : 0.159172 01 0 0 0.033846
288. Beamrider : 0.158310 01 0 0 0.033493
289. Explosive Breaker : 0.157921 01 0 0 0.033333
289. Andro Dunos : 0.157921 01 0 0 0.033333
291. Impossible Spell Card [Touhou 14.3] : 0.157651 01 0 0 0.033223
292. 1941: Counter Attack : 0.155582 01 0 0 0.032374
293. Gradius 2 / Nemesis 2 (MSX) : 0.152055 01 0 0 0.030928
293. Gyruss (NES) : 0.152055 01 0 0 0.030928
293. Vulgus : 0.152055 01 0 0 0.030928
293. Gorf : 0.152055 01 0 0 0.030928
297. Cotton: Fantastic Night Dreams : 0.151668 01 0 0 0.030769
297. Sky Wolf : 0.151668 01 0 0 0.030769
297. Gradius Rebirth : 0.151668 01 0 0 0.030769
300. Space Invaders Extreme : 0.150287 01 1 0 0.014493
301. Slap Fight MD : 0.147575 01 0 0 0.029091
302. Sonic Wings Special : 0.146641 01 0 0 0.028708
303. Natsuki Chronicles : 0.145814 01 0 0 0.028369
304. Every Extend : 0.144164 01 0 0 0.027692
304. Prehistoric Isle 2 : 0.144164 01 0 0 0.027692
306. Aka to Blue Type-R : 0.143444 01 0 0 0.027397
307. R-Type Final : 0.139484 01 0 0 0.025773
308. Fire Lancer : 0.134453 01 1 0 0.008000
308. Flying Red Barrel : 0.134453 01 1 0 0.008000
310. Defender : 0.134237 01 0 0 0.023622
311. GG Aleste II : 0.132128 00 0 1 0.030612
312. Gemini Wing : 0.131201 01 1 0 0.006667
313. Cybattler : 0.129156 01 0 0 0.021538
313. Score Rush / MP : 0.129156 01 0 0 0.021538
315. Daioh : 0.125404 01 0 0 0.020000
315. Cotton 2 : 0.125404 01 0 0 0.020000
317. Rapid Hero : 0.121652 01 0 0 0.018462
317. Gun-Nac : 0.121652 01 0 0 0.018462
319. Wing Force : 0.119165 01 0 0 0.017442
320. Blue Wish Resurrection / Plus : 0.114943 00 3 0 0.000000
321. Torus Trooper : 0.114148 01 0 0 0.015385
322. Sonic Wings Limited : 0.111468 01 0 0 0.014286
323. Tsurugi no Mai : 0.110036 01 0 0 0.013699
324. Aero Fighters 2 : 0.109809 01 0 0 0.013605
324. Akkanvader / Space Invaders '95 : 0.109809 01 0 0 0.013605
326. R-Type III: The Third Lightning : 0.107113 01 0 0 0.012500
327. Steel Empire : 0.102946 01 0 0 0.010791
327. Seaquest : 0.102946 01 0 0 0.010791
329. Star Parodier : 0.099140 01 0 0 0.009231
329. Pandara : 0.099140 01 0 0 0.009231
331. Gundhara : 0.097473 01 0 0 0.008547
332. Warning Forever : 0.096139 01 0 0 0.008000
332. Star Soldier GC : 0.096139 01 0 0 0.008000
334. Aurail : 0.094365 01 0 0 0.007273
335. Jet Lancer : 0.094174 01 0 0 0.007194
336. Otomedius G : 0.093925 01 0 0 0.007092
337. Sky Kid : 0.093219 01 0 0 0.006803
337. Phoenix : 0.093219 01 0 0 0.006803
339. Darius / Darius Extra : 0.092887 01 0 0 0.006667
340. Defender II / Stargate : 0.091636 01 0 0 0.006154
340. Gridrunner (Minotaur Arcade Vol. 1) : 0.091636 01 0 0 0.006154
340. Gaiares : 0.091636 01 0 0 0.006154
340. Nano Assault Neo : 0.091636 01 0 0 0.006154
340. Undeadline (MD) : 0.091636 01 0 0 0.006154
345. Quarth : 0.087956 00 0 1 0.012500
346. Devil Engine : 0.086081 01 0 0 0.003876
347. Grid Seeker : 0.085497 01 0 0 0.003636
347. Nexzr : 0.085497 01 0 0 0.003636
347. Blazer : 0.085497 01 0 0 0.003636
350. Knightmare : 0.085277 01 0 0 0.003546
351. RayCrisis : 0.085067 01 0 0 0.003460
351. Psyvariar 2 : 0.085067 01 0 0 0.003460
353. Sqoon : 0.084132 01 0 0 0.003077
353. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu Black Label Arrange : 0.084132 01 0 0 0.003077
353. Silk Worm : 0.084132 01 0 0 0.003077
353. Frog & Spiders : 0.084132 01 0 0 0.003077
353. Air Buster : 0.084132 01 0 0 0.003077
358. Alltynex Second : 0.076628 00 2 0 0.000000
359. Remote Weapon GunFencer : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. 1944: The Loop Master : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Twin Cobra II / Kyukyoku Tiger II : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Spriggan Mark 2 : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Senko no Ronde 2 : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Trigon / Lightning Fighters : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Storm Blade : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Trouble Witches Neo! : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. ring^-27 : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Gundemonium Recollection : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Flight of Pigarus : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Gynoug : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Blast Wind : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Tempest : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Space Duel : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Ether Vapor : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Gaia Seed: Project Seed Trap : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Hacha Mecha Fighter : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Vritra (Complete Edition) : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Elemental Master : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Bari-Arm : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Psyvariar Delta (Delta Version Mode) : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Bangai-O Spirits : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Ketsui Death Label : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Firepower 2000 / Super SWIV : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Darius Twin : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Asteroids : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Area 88 / UN Squadron (SNES) : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Zenohell : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Jet Buster : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Aero Chimera : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. The Flying Pancake Octopus in Black Hole : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. LAYER RAY SF SHOOTING : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. RefRain: Prism Memories : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Shoot 1Up : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Rival Megagun : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Pawarumi : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
359. Zangeki Warp : 0.038314 00 1 0 0.000000
I think the general consensus is that they're more immersive and natural and therefore make patterns more readable and easier to dodge. That is until you get used to side-scrollers, then it's just a matter of preference. I don't mind it, depends on the gameHectorReborn11 wrote:Deathsmiles is the only one on the list that in my opinion isn't up to the quality of being top25. And I'd easily replace it with what I think is the far superior Cave horizontal Progear. Speaking of horizontal, only 6 appear on the list. You guys think verticals are inherently superior, or that there just happen to be more great verticals that have been made?
Deliberate miss.Bydobasher wrote:notwithstanding its miss in 2004
Haha, shmup humour! Terrible, but funnybkk wrote:Deliberate miss.Bydobasher wrote:notwithstanding its miss in 2004
We already did! 8 posts up, dated March 6, 12:33 pm.dmk1198 wrote:We gonna get whole list soon nifty?
Thnx man musta missed itBydobasher wrote:We already did! 8 posts up, dated March 6, 12:33 pm.dmk1198 wrote:We gonna get whole list soon nifty?