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 Post subject: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your chest!
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:13 am 


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Here is the thread where you can share your deepest darkest shmup secret(s). Where you share what you enjoy, but for whatever reason it seems most other people just aren't onboard. Do you chain bomb bosses, regularly? Do you play on Easy mode? Do you like a certain soundtrack or level or boss that other people just look down their noses at? Is there a classic series that you don't care for at all? Do you watch superplays of games before you try them? Is your favorite game one that other players don't give a second playthrough of? Here is where you unload.


For me, I like Batsugun's Arrange soundtrack more than the arcade version.
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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:38 am 


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Old school shooter > bullet hell.


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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:39 am 


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I... I don't like Gradius Gaiden very much. The soundtrack is boring and feels very inappropriate for a Gradius game--if I can't whistle along to your music then you need to get out of my Gradius. Also have a strong dislike of distracting graded transparency effects and after-image effects. Also the game is too easy and most levels are uninspired when you get past the obnoxious effects. When I hear people rank this among the top of their Gradius games I often wonder what it is I might be missing.
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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:36 am 



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Not a fan of the "shmup" portmanteau. Shooters is perfectly fine.

o.pwuaioc wrote:
Old school shooter > bullet hell.


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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
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I adore shooters with announcers who never shut up.


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You know what I don't like? Lame quality, "Done-on-the-cheap" shooters that act as Gamerscore Milkers 'cos they only make you spend money making you think they might be good (I'm looking at you Super Star Blast and FullBlast).
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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:22 pm 


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Thunderforce 4 is the second worst in the series (2 being the worst). It's gorgeous, but the sprawling levels just make me wonder what part of the screen I'm supposed to be in. Is it better to stay up high, or should I skim the ground? Then the bosses come along and just - will - not - die! It feels like you're doing something wrong. They give no visual feedback that they're being hit, and soak up bullets like you're showering them with candy.
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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
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As much as I love Cave games and some Steam gems, when given the opportunity to play a run n gun, I'll pick the run n gun 90% of the time. :mrgreen: (Metal Slug, Contra, Cuphead, Alien Hominid...)


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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:04 pm 


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CAVE Easy Modes aren't *that* bad.

If they gave futari easy mode the option to disable auto-bombing it would have been a great way to get into the game.
I love playing it on Ultra-Easy and try to score as high as I can.

EDIT: also, Galuda Arrange mode on the PS2 is better than the original game.


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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
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Jonpachi wrote:
They give no visual feedback that they're being hit


Red hitspark means you're hitting a weak point, blue means you're not. Same as TFIII and Elemental Master.
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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:06 pm 


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BIL wrote:
Jonpachi wrote:
They give no visual feedback that they're being hit


Red hitspark means you're hitting a weak point, blue means you're not. Same as TFIII and Elemental Master.


LOL nooooo! 3 at least has the whole boss flash red when being hit. I'll go back and give it another shot!
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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:15 pm 


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Blade always gives a red hit so that might be what's confusing. Especially with Gargoyle Diver, the default first stage boss. Compare with TFIII though, where most bosses go down in seconds if you have sever/sabre (honestly can't remember which it's actually called, maybe it's even something else!).

Top vs. bottom of the screen - experiment, see where powerups appear vs. enemy waves. I think it's a good thing that there's a lot going on and the player can try different things.


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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
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The entirety of the Darius series music is bad and needs to be banned.
Every last tiny piece of it.
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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
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The R-Type series as a whole doesn't really so it for me, and aren't really shmups - rather, they are moving puzzles that are deliberately constructed to force the player to use X weapon in Y location at Z time in order to advance successfully. It has nothing to do with skill, and everything do to with memorization. Totally not fun to play (though admittedly still nice to watch though).


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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
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The R-Type series as a whole doesn't really so it for me, and aren't really shmups - rather, they are moving puzzles that are deliberately constructed to force the player to use X weapon in Y location at Z time in order to advance successfully. It has nothing to do with skill, and everything do to with memorization. Totally not fun to play (though admittedly still nice to watch though).

Metal Black is the best Darius game.


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Super Aleste is a terribly boring game.


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 Post subject: Re: Unpopular opinion / Hot take thread - get it off your ch
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I've posted it before, but having to use more than two buttons in a Compile shmup automatically makes it inferior to any Compile shmup playable with only two buttons. I otherwise like shmups where I have to use more buttons, such as R-Type Delta or Einhänder, so it seems to be Compile-specific in my case.
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ASilver76 wrote:
The R-Type series as a whole doesn't really so it for me, and aren't really shmups - rather, they are moving puzzles that are deliberately constructed to force the player to use X weapon in Y location at Z time in order to advance successfully. It has nothing to do with skill, and everything do to with memorization. Totally not fun to play (though admittedly still nice to watch though).


This. It’s also sooooo sssslllllooooowwww.


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Dangun Feveron is better with a focus speed button.

Battle Garegga is better with neon pink bullets.

Darius is a Euroshmup series.
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List of highest rated games that I'm not fond of:

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ASilver76 wrote:
The R-Type series as a whole doesn't really so it for me, and aren't really shmups - rather, they are moving puzzles that are deliberately constructed to force the player to use X weapon in Y location at Z time in order to advance successfully. It has nothing to do with skill, and everything do to with memorization. Totally not fun to play (though admittedly still nice to watch though).


R-TYPE DELTA is probably the only game in the series that got me hooked from start to finish. I mean holy god those atmosphere and it's "visual storytelling" a la Metal Black.
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Just don’t enjoy radiant silver gun!


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I dont like pixels and prefer 3D type renderings.


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Pop'n TwinBee isn't as good as Detana!! or Yahho!.
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ZeroRanger is just another boring Euroshmup.


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The best shmup scoring system is infinite loops with checkpoints, and Tatsujin is the best game that has said scoring system.


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Shmups that force you to 1 life the game all powered up.
Raidens floating orbs that seem to distract me like a mouse to the cheese
Shmups with intros and cut scenes you can't skip
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DOJ sucks


Donpachi series is overrated and boring!
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