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Maybe I'm not getting something from that the context of the rest of that Instagram post, but what it seems to be saying to me is that his test rig is capable of accuracy down to 1/4 frame, because 60fps x 4 = 240fps. 1/4 of a frame on a device like this (that uses a framebuffer) would, to the best of my knowledge, not be possible without some sort of runahead.

Ah, on second read I suppose you're right. I am not super well-versed in how frames are counted, so I misunderstood what he was saying in the post.

He is teasing that he'll post the results in an upcoming video. The first two he posted for the system aren't a bad watch, and I'm definitely curious to see the outcome.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb6Y45xtdYojo2-x9LHI8mQ

So, another update email on my TG Mini just arrived, and while the last one said it wouldn't be coming until next January, the revised date of delivery is...early next week, apparently. Not sure what's going on here, exactly, but we'll see either way, I suppose.

With luck, it does look like that is the shipping date, as they have updated that way on the product page itself.

Got my pc engine mini from Japan to Portugal I’m 3 days using dhl. Superb work


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NA Amazon now have the TG16 Mini release date as May 22nd.

Too late for me, I was in the market for one of these a few months back, but I recently ended up investing in a basic MiSTer FPGA setup. The PC Engine core on it just got a substantial update improving accuracy significantly and adding PCE-CD support, so that niche is now filled for me.

That aside, I think this is probably the best non Nintendo mini in terms of sheer quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWoYmnyD7wI

Lag Test video from Shmup Junkie is up. Pretty interesting stuff.

Who?

I'm pretty sure the MLiG review was done remotely, both of them at home respectively during the peak of the coronavirus situation. It wasn't super detailed like their usual stuff and it's really unsurprising a lot of people didn't grow up with the PC-Engine/TurboGrafx. So while it's understandable their video might have inaccuracies it's kind of silly to make a response video just to call them out over it.

He doesn't name any names in the video, and it's a nice in-depth look at lag across several games on the mini (and on original hardware). I found it worth a watch on its own.

That's pretty dang funny and informative, even if it's a little salty.

The review in question would be mine ;o I've been on here as Movietimepro for a while now. Pachi messaged me that he posted a link to it here. So I just came to check it out and see if anyone had more technical questions about what I did that are beyond the scope of posting comments on Youtube.

Just for clarification, this was part 3 of a bigger set of reviews I am doing on the pc engine mini. I definitely am not singling any one source out in this last video. It was because I have come across at least a few places, video and print, now parroting the same info that I focused on those claims specifically while showing lag results for quite a few games. I actually very much enjoy MLiG's more technical works and am a fan of their videos.

Clearly I was pretty excited about this mini since I'm a big fan of the console and I have dozens of folks I chat with online that I've gotten excited about it. I would not be embellishing if I said that since
the first reviews started coming out, I have had no less than a COUPLE DOZEN of said friends message me near the exact same thing. "I just checked out review xyz and they are saying how bad the lag is and that lords of thunder is unplayable." Clearly I was disappointed being I had high hopes for the console. I was looking forward to a lot of new blood trying out some of the awesome shooters on there.

It wasn't until I finally got my mini a while back and really put some time into it that I realized I didn't agree with the assertions being made. The lag felt pretty much in line with every single other mini I have played especially the Genesis Mini. And as I started playing through games to put my own review together, I was having little trouble blowing through them, R-Type, Graidus 1&2, Gunhed, Salamander, Soldier Blade, Super SS, etc. And Lords of Thunder which was never that difficult of a game to begin with compared to some of the aforementioned others. So in my first review I called it out and said anyone calling these unplayable just needs to practice and stop blaming their lack of skills on the console. Did it have lag? Of course and I said as much. Some people will be elitist about it and turn their nose up at a mini and that's their perogative. I'm of the camp that I can adjust and enjoy myself playing it anyway.

So once I started actually getting some real numbers on the games I saw that Lords didn't have enough variance from any of the other games to claim it's lag makes the game unplayable. Well... you certainly can... it's your opinion, but like I stated in my video... that assertion says more about you than it does about the actual game or console. As the raw numbers state otherwise.
I really believe that if some of the reviewers had given it more of a fair shake or game time, instead of a quick play and determining it unplayable, they would have adjusted. So in my mind some
these claims of unplayable are unnecessarily harsh.

I admit my vid may be a bit harsh as well... partly to make a dry topic more fun, but also because I really am disappointed that assertions weren't tested. If I am reviewing a console and most games seem fine to me, but a specific one or two do not, the first thing I do is test. If I am going to make a claim as bold as something is unplayable, I better be able to substantiate that claim somehow. So I felt that if I didn't come out there and do it definitively... nobody else would either. My biggest hope is that folks that may have been on the fence about picking up this mini due to the preponderance of said lag and unplayable claims, may see my video and reconsider. Just like a lot of my friends did. Again I got so many messages later stating "I'm so glad I didn't listen to those reviews. I am having a blast with these
games and Lords of Thunder is awesome." Remember what it was like the very first time you played Lords? I do

That was an excellent deep dive, and I had a blast watching it.

Anybody getting the 8bitdo pad in today? Fucking Amazon delayed my preorder, naturally..

I've not tried the 8bitdo pad yet for the PC Engine but that company makes great stuff.

I have the SNES and Genesis ones and they're even better than the original controllers they're copying.

All the buttons feel great, nice weight to the controllers, rechargable batteries with good battery life, lots of pairing options (X-input, Direct input, Nintendo Switch, Andriod/iphone)

I'll buy one for every console they make.

I can post a positive impression of the 8bitdo pad. It's more compact, closer to a NES pad. That will be subjective but for my hands it's a better fit.

More importantly, plays great. Easily better than the pack-in pads with their stiff membranes. This feels pretty authentic but requires a much lighter touch on both Dpad and buttons. The Dpad is also ACCURATE despite some of 8bitdo's earlier foibles. Build is solid and easily first-party grade, and no perceptible lag as with most 2.4g solutions.

I think this is easily a better choice than the stock controller. Easy to recommend to anyone interested, and a better option than damn Hori's "PCE scheme or fuck off" offering for a second controller.

Dang, only the PC Engine versions are left on Amazon atmo. Wanted a Core Grafx one, but I went ahead and got the white one in case they end up being out of stock for a long while. I don't mind the stock pad, but I'm looking forward to a better/more comfortable d-pad.

It looks like all three versions sold out. I wouldn't compromise on the colorway if I were you, there's really no reason to think a restock isn't incoming. It's just the beginning of this product's run.

Totally fair, but I’m impatient.

Finally got my TG Mini, some quick impressions after tooling around with it a bit; keep in mind that I never had the system back in the day, so I'm going into this whole thing mostly blind.

- It really is chintzy of them not to include an AC adapter; thankfully my phone's charger seems to work OK, hopefully I'm not unknowingly frying the innards or something.

- Moreover, while the controller's cord is nice and long, the AC adapter is quite short; definitely don't plan on putting the system very far away from an outlet. An HDMI cable is included, and more "required" than I was expecting; I initially just tried to use the HDMI I already had hooked up to my PS4, but the head on it is different and didn't fit inside the dust cover on the back.

- I'm not an expert on input lag, but off the cuff I would say I feel some manner of delay; I'm unsure, however, whether it's inherent to the programming or has something to do with the controller's construction, as I can't compare the "feel" of the thing to an original pad.

As I try stuff out on the thing I'll post several-decades-late impressions of them as I see fit; I can already set aside a bunch of titles I don't intend to bother with, namely the Japanese titles that also have English versions included, Momotaro, Necromancer and Snatcher (can't read 'em), MotoRoader, Victory Run, Gateball and Power Golf (not a sports/racing fan), and Military Madness (same for strategy). The rest I'll at least try out; how many I'll actually play more than once remains a mystery!

Got my wireless 8bitdo controller, and DAMN I LOVE THING! It feels great and is so light and just fun to use that I ended up staying up too late playing the mini.