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 Post subject: Re: M2 ShotTriggers: ESP rade
PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:48 am 



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Special World wrote:
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heh, I just realized that in order to score this game, you're going to have loooooong boss battles.

I think they cleared that up in Arcade+, no?

Is it because you can shoot things like the bullet canisters on the rolling tank boss, or what? I dont quite understand why the game is milky.



It's kinda fixed in Arcade+, but not really.

The 'issue' is that you get points for B-shot contact, so you can just spray bosses with the 'small' bits of the b shot for tick points. You can do larger enemies too.

Honestly it's a bit overblown for most people. You really don't have to care about it unless you are pushing WR level scoring.
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 Post subject: Re: M2 ShotTriggers: ESP rade
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:19 pm 



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I’ve just got this for my switch lite.
Is there a way to play it in tate mode by using a single joycon?
I hate that shmup devs dont cater for this.


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 Post subject: Re: M2 ShotTriggers: ESP rade
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:27 am 



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DazTM wrote:
Is there a way to play it in tate mode by using a single joycon?

That's a bloody brilliant idea.


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 Post subject: Re: M2 ShotTriggers: ESP rade
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:29 pm 


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DazTM wrote:
I’ve just got this for my switch lite.
Is there a way to play it in tate mode by using a single joycon?
I hate that shmup devs dont cater for this.

For a normal Switch, this is actively discouraged because the joint simply isn't up to the task of holding the entire weight of the main Switch up. It probably doesn't do great things for a Lite either.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:37 pm 


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nm. misread something.
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 Post subject: Re: M2 ShotTriggers: ESP rade
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:05 am 


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Anybody know why I can't access the leaderboard on my Switch? It just defaults to local rankings.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:58 am 



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Do the online leaderboards require a Nintendo Online account? I have no idea if they do, just thought that might be a reason why.


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 Post subject: Re: M2 ShotTriggers: ESP rade
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:01 pm 



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Have you patched up to the latest version? IIRC there was a patch soon after release that fixed an issue with being unable to access the leaderboard.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:36 pm 


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Oh... it's probably because i'm on a US account. Right? Or wrong? I do have Ninty online. And the latest patches i think.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:59 pm 



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Being on a US account doesn't matter. I'm on a US account and can access and post scores to all the leaderboards.


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 Post subject: Re: M2 ShotTriggers: ESP rade
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:17 pm 


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Hm, well then i have no idea. Is there some way i can make it check for a patch?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:41 pm 



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I'm not in front of my Switch to check right now, but I believe if you press the + button when highlighting a game in the main Switch menu, it should give you options. In there I believe is where you can find the option to check for updates.


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 Post subject: Re: M2 ShotTriggers: ESP rade
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:31 am 


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For some reason i can sometimes access it now. Two questions:

How do I view replays?
And what is Arcade Osari? And what do I do to interact with it? Its just a bunch of blank tvs now.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:49 pm 


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Special World wrote:
For some reason i can sometimes access it now. Two questions:

How do I view replays?

Behind either Ranking Viewer or Materials Room in the pause menu, I forget which one.

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And what is Arcade Osari? And what do I do to interact with it? Its just a bunch of blank tvs now.

Based on how it works in Ketsui, if you play Arcade Mode (not sure about Arcade Plus?) it lets you replay segments where you've died in the past, so you can practice those parts. You get points for doing so which are also ranked on a leaderboard, but they don't actually mean anything.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:59 pm 


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Making some nice progress this weekend! Cracked 9m and pushed it up to Lady Garra. I was on my last life going into her "butterfly wings" sequence when she finally caught me in a corner.

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 Post subject: Re: M2 ShotTriggers: ESP rade
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:34 pm 



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I have been poking around in the manual a bit trying answer some questions I had and I wanted to share a couple things I noticed about the Esper Rooms. My Japanese is weak, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

So generally as I see it from a gameplay standpoint, the Esper Rooms function as part Custom Mode, part Training mode. Both modes are accessed through the Mission Mode (しゅつ‐げき【出撃】). I feel like the English descriptions are accurate, I will note that while this game lacks a true arrange mode, the Esper Rooms do have some cool Power and Speed arrange modes for some stages. Anyways in Story Course is where you will find most of the Custom and Training Modes.

To train a part of a stage or a boss, use no barrier. To play custom mode use Pet support. The custom part is all in english, use the tickets to build up different parts of your character, then have fun using the custom character in the story and challenge courses. As a side note, in my limited experience, bronze tickets and silver tickets are not worth using on their own, you can convert 10 bronze tickets into 1 silver ticket, and 10 silver tickets into 1 gold ticket. Pets can be leveled up to level 99, although it likely wont be impactful until level 16.

So anyways I had questions about the Esper Rank, the Jewel, judge money, and changing pet skins.

So to change pets go to the Furniture slot and place some pet furniture in the room (has the pet type in the bottom corner of the furniture icon). After you have pet furniture in the room, hover over it and press Y (on switch) to choose the skin of the pet you want on that piece of furtniture.

As you get more judge money your Esper Rank rises and you get Fukubi and Pet tickets. Also the more missions you complete the higher your Jewel grade gets. The highest jewel grade is Diamond (after completing all mission on at least super easy). I think the easiest way to think of Judge money is score. The higher your score, the more stuff you can unlock in the Esper Room. Each Esper Rank requires a number of judge points to level up. The next counter counts down to the next esper rank, as you obtain judge points from completing missions. When you level up your Esper Rank, you get bonus Tickets.

Esper Rank (next counter) and pet customization are character specific. However, Judge Money (total counter), and tickets are account wide.

There is a Judge Money Rank Boards. So there are leader boards for all modes of the game.

So if you want to either make your Esper cool or compete for Judge Money, get to grinding stage training on no barrier mode. Although one thing Im not sure about is how the judge money award is calculated. Each mission gives a base amount of Judge Points, but I know you can increase it (significantly) based on your performance. Its not just the point items you collect, it likely has something to do with points scored. Either way I can double the base amount, I just don't know how.

So I guess in short, the Esper Rooms are rewarding you for training at the game. I think thats cool. I wrote this thing because no one had really given any help on how to use the mode, so I had to resort to imperfect tactics. Hopefully someone will come along and give a better translation or understanding of this mode. Until then you guys will have to suffer with what I wrote.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:24 pm 


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And as far as I know it's the only way to train Alice Master (100% the story course to unlock her)
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You just need a 1CC to unlock her, and you can do it on Super Easy Mode.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:20 pm 


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Jonpachi wrote:
You just need a 1CC to unlock her, and you can do it on Super Easy Mode.

I was specifically talking about in Esper Room! Unless that's what you meant also?
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Oh my bad. I haven't touched any of that room stuff. Opened the UI once and just said, "NOPE!" and never went back.
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 Post subject: Re: M2 ShotTriggers: ESP rade
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:31 am 


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It's actually a very fun mode! The only thing you really need is the top option, I think. Theres lots of mini challenges. I quite like it. You can even play through the game with a permanent x16 fever. A basic arrange mode, perhaps? And again, the only place to practice as Alice (well, you can savestate arcade plus obviously)
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 Post subject: Re: M2 ShotTriggers: ESP rade
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:02 pm 


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I've had the Switch version since day 1, and I've done fairly well at it. My best run had me making it up to Lady Garra and past the statue-head portion of her fight. Yet... I can't shake the little worry that somehow the PS4 version runs better. So, last night I cracked and ordered that version too. :oops:
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 Post subject: Re: M2 ShotTriggers: ESP rade
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:40 pm 



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Jonpachi wrote:
I've had the Switch version since day 1, and I've done fairly well at it. My best run had me making it up to Lady Garra and past the statue-head portion of her fight. Yet... I can't shake the little worry that somehow the PS4 version runs better. So, last night I cracked and ordered that version too. :oops:


Can't you emulate it on Switch? Does Retroarch work on it? It should play it better than any port.


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