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15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
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YEEHURR...!!!
TD2 finally joins the group, also my top 3 shmups placed on the right side.
TD2 finally joins the group, also my top 3 shmups placed on the right side.
Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
It's easy to assume that it's something like this, but it's really legitimately an amazing game. You really need to find some way to play it, because it's extremely interesting.EmperorIng wrote:Frankly I'm surprised at the amount of love for Judgment Silversword on enough ballots to get an honorable mention. I haven't played it so I wouldn't know, but I always just considered it as some fun novelty someone made for the Wonderswan.
If you can manage to do so, also play M-KAI's games on MSX2. Like JSS you could assume "oh it's only cool because of the oddness of its existence", but they're also very unique and interesting like JSS. Kyokugen is very cinematic and inspired, though the lack of polish is pretty obvious. Pleasure Hearts is through-and-through a great game with interesting concepts though.
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Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Possibly, but Gate of Thunder is a pretty strong contender for superceding the whole Mega Drive trilogy, at least. IV may have just enough spectacle to overcome it, but that's an uphill battle.EmperorIng wrote:If people wanna rep console shooters they should rep Technosoft, first and foremost.
Gate is legitimately one of the best console shmups ever released, right up there with Sapphire. Winds plays too much and crosses too many lines to be in the same group.
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I hadn’t realized so few non-arcade shmups made it to the top 25 or even honorable mentions list...
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Well there aren't that many console exclusives worth mentioning, it's probably to pc/doujin exclusives that the top is most unfair, although that platform's a lot of fluff too.
Looking at the All Past list though if you take out Cave and Konami, Touhou/Sh.Alice seems to sit 3rd or 4th by itself.
On the pc/doujin platform Touhou is dominanting and kind of crushing as Cave is to the arcades.
On consoles it seems that it's Compile that got the most mentions of exclusives but only by a game or two which can't even be called leading.
I'm waiting for the updated All Past list, knowing it won't be much different but the top/list is only meant to show what people like.
Looking at the All Past list though if you take out Cave and Konami, Touhou/Sh.Alice seems to sit 3rd or 4th by itself.
On the pc/doujin platform Touhou is dominanting and kind of crushing as Cave is to the arcades.
On consoles it seems that it's Compile that got the most mentions of exclusives but only by a game or two which can't even be called leading.
I'm waiting for the updated All Past list, knowing it won't be much different but the top/list is only meant to show what people like.
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I just noticed that the honorable mentions list has asterisks in the year-by-year entries for Dariusburst, but the legend doesn't list asterisk as a symbol. I think they should be "+" signs.
I think nothing changed in that except for Thunder Dragon 2 moving from "All Past Honorable-Mention-Only Games" to "All Past Top 25 Games."Xyga wrote:I'm waiting for the updated All Past list, knowing it won't be much different but the top/list is only meant to show what people like.
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I consider it kind of a weakness of the format: all the consoles are completely off the bottom of the scale. There's no way to see the best games for the NES, TG16 or whatever. I end up hitting Rob's countdown threads for that kind of thing.similar lack of representation from Genesis/MD, SNES, Neo, etc.
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Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
For what it's worth, there was one time Nifty did a top doujins shooter list that people should look for. For consoles, I think as Xyga mentioned, if you take away the ports there are less original games that would sit with the "big boys" outside of fan favorites.
I will reiterate that I voted for Blue Revolver as more than worthy of standing with a list of arcade greats, and as I mentioned in the discussion thread: it's one of the best shooters made in the last few years. Great difficulty modes, weapons, and stage design.
I will reiterate that I voted for Blue Revolver as more than worthy of standing with a list of arcade greats, and as I mentioned in the discussion thread: it's one of the best shooters made in the last few years. Great difficulty modes, weapons, and stage design.
A worthy shooter indeed! I think Gate of Thunder is at least as good as TF3, maybe a little better, also for the sheer spectacle and having less "gotcha!" moments like TF3 does. It won't unseat TF4's epic adventure and wealth of content, in my eyes. Didn't the TF3 team go to Red to make Gate of Thunder? If so, it makes me wonder if they stayed around to do TF4, or if it was a different group at Technosoft.Despatche wrote:Possibly, but Gate of Thunder is a pretty strong contender for superceding the whole Mega Drive trilogy, at least. IV may have just enough spectacle to overcome it, but that's an uphill battle.EmperorIng wrote:If people wanna rep console shooters they should rep Technosoft, first and foremost.
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Gate operates on a much higher level from TF3 and TF4. Enemies and bosses don't constantly threaten to be worthless like they are in TF3, and the game isn't fundamentally busted like in TF4. Gate is a game you put on a list of perfect games, every time.
I'm surprised noone ever mentions Sapphire. That game is also probably on a list of perfect games. Maybe. The selectable characters/weapon types kinda push it.
I'm surprised noone ever mentions Sapphire. That game is also probably on a list of perfect games. Maybe. The selectable characters/weapon types kinda push it.
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Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
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###. Game Name Total Score|Votes|HMs|SLs|Total Game Weight
Top 25:
001. DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou Black Label / White Label : 7.716535 32 2 2 2.229305
002. Ketsui ~Kizuna Jigoku Tachi~ : 7.090718 35 1 3 1.836179
003. Battle Garegga : 7.064290 35 1 3 1.824396
004. DoDonPachi : 6.472460 30 3 2 1.727281
005. Mushihimesama Futari / 1.5 / Black Label : 6.117863 27 0 1 1.753493
006. Armed Police Batrider : 5.590091 27 3 3 1.412858
007. Crimzon Clover / World Ignition : 5.336141 26 2 4 1.325962
008. RayForce/Layer Section/Gunlock/Galactic Attack : 5.066320 25 2 3 1.267097
009. Radiant Silvergun : 5.013307 25 1 1 1.313675
010. Ikaruga : 4.873363 23 1 1 1.321494
011. Gradius V : 4.161943 22 1 0 1.065737
012. Mars Matrix : 3.990424 18 2 2 1.059478
013. Mushihimesama : 3.919886 21 2 1 0.949036
014. Batsugun / Batsugun Special : 3.423028 19 3 1 0.780167
015. Gradius Gaiden : 3.397778 15 0 2 0.935668
016. Gunbird 2 : 3.239050 18 1 1 0.768353
017. Dangun Feveron : 3.216960 15 0 5 0.776058
018. Under Defeat / HD : 3.190080 18 0 2 0.737743
019. Dragon Blaze : 3.083352 16 3 3 0.681380
020. ESPGaluda / Arrange : 3.029573 16 3 1 0.710063
021. Progear no Arashi : 2.963465 14 0 2 0.777133
022. Strikers 1945 II : 2.921297 15 1 1 0.732001
023. Muchi Muchi Pork! : 2.901573 15 2 0 0.731984
024. R-Type : 2.887877 15 1 3 0.664440
025. Thunder Dragon 2 : 2.815054 10 1 2 0.833837
Honorable Mention:
026. Darius Gaiden : 2.800091 18 0 2 0.563862
027. Guwange : 2.788914 16 0 2 0.629093
028. Raiden DX : 2.708956 19 1 0 0.523228
029. R-Type Delta : 2.699808 14 0 2 0.659578
030. Deathsmiles / Mega Black Label : 2.680755 16 3 1 0.554538
031. Raiden Fighters Jet : 2.376474 13 3 1 0.524193
032. Ibara : 2.321435 12 0 0 0.613751
033. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu / 1.5 / Resurrection : 2.310551 12 2 1 0.547461
034. ESPGaluda II / Black Label : 2.301730 14 0 0 0.534751
035. DoDonPachi Saidaioujou : 2.275413 13 2 1 0.496687
036. Gradius II: Gofer no Yabou (ARC/PCE) : 2.183065 11 5 1 0.473067
037. Akai Katana : 2.111187 11 1 0 0.537564
038. Thunder Force IV / Lightening Force : 2.085354 10 0 1 0.552376
039. ESP Ra.De. : 1.978235 11 2 1 0.434402
040. G-Darius : 1.880625 08 2 2 0.469872
041. Giga Wing : 1.878566 13 3 0 0.328525
042. Darius Burst: Another Chronicle / EX / Saviours : 1.867277 09 1 1 0.472698
043. Twinkle Star Sprites : 1.710964 07 3 2 0.411781
044. Border Down : 1.590645 09 1 1 0.349358
045. Soukyugurentai : 1.557793 08 3 1 0.334711
046. Battle Bakraid : 1.502170 10 1 0 0.301134
047. Gradius : 1.492690 08 1 0 0.367121
048. Strikers 1945 III / Strikers 1999 : 1.490793 09 1 1 0.304838
049. Perfect Cherry Blossom [Touhou 7] : 1.489980 06 2 1 0.392243
050. Flying Shark / Hishouzame : 1.448686 07 1 1 0.356278
051. Giga Wing 2 : 1.430889 07 0 1 0.365897
052. Judgement Silversword : 1.412576 06 0 1 0.392839
053. Salamander 2 : 1.410851 07 0 1 0.356963
The Rest:
054. DonPachi : 1.387937 09 0 0 0.302863
055. Pink Sweets : 1.372296 07 0 0 0.366103
056. Eschatos : 1.315928 06 2 2 0.288310
057. Twin Cobra / Kyukyoku Tiger : 1.254623 08 1 0 0.260977
058. Metal Black : 1.251255 07 1 1 0.268252
059. Dimahoo / Great Mahou Daisakusen : 1.230174 06 1 1 0.293960
060. Cho Ren Sha 68K : 1.188629 06 1 2 0.249106
061. Great Fairy Wars [Touhou 12.8] : 1.185570 02 1 3 0.361841
062. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu Black Label : 1.182637 05 0 1 0.325426
063. Zero Gunner 2 : 1.151311 05 2 1 0.276351
064. Einhänder : 1.128525 07 2 0 0.222308
065. Strikers 1945 : 1.086804 06 1 1 0.230037
066. Sengoku Blade : 1.086553 06 0 0 0.273809
067. Cyvern: The Dragon Weapons : 1.041491 06 2 0 0.218610
068. Blazing Star : 1.041219 07 1 0 0.200935
069. Radirgy : 1.030656 02 2 2 0.301547
070. Gun Frontier : 0.993752 03 1 1 0.293870
071. Seisou Kouki Strania / The Stella Machina : 0.991499 06 1 1 0.187544
072. Guardian Force : 0.985084 04 0 1 0.272451
073. Super Aleste / Space Megaforce : 0.979654 05 0 0 0.261254
074. Kamui : 0.909680 06 1 0 0.177394
075. Sexy Parodius : 0.870130 05 1 1 0.168537
076. G-Stream G2020 / DeltaZeal : 0.861092 04 1 0 0.225945
077. V-V [V-Five] : 0.837307 04 1 2 0.162680
078. Raiden Fighters 2 : 0.831142 06 0 0 0.159931
079. Mecha Ritz / Steel Rondo : 0.822477 05 1 0 0.173621
080. Akai Katana Shin : 0.802935 04 1 0 0.200015
081. Cotton Boomerang : 0.796022 02 1 2 0.214486
082. Parodius Da! : 0.771918 03 2 1 0.177409
083. Salamander (ARC/PCE) / Life Force (ARC) : 0.771083 05 2 0 0.133153
084. Gun.Smoke : 0.770371 04 0 1 0.176719
085. Viper Phase 1 / New : 0.767853 05 0 0 0.166820
086. Fire Shark / Same! Same! Same! : 0.751454 04 0 0 0.194615
087. Raiden : 0.751331 03 4 0 0.159454
088. Gokujou Parodius / Fantastic Journey : 0.746375 03 2 1 0.166020
089. Hellsinker : 0.707489 03 1 0 0.192567
090. Out Zone : 0.706824 03 0 2 0.157163
091. Jikkyo Oshaberi Parodius : 0.706104 02 2 2 0.156842
092. Axelay : 0.699921 06 0 0 0.101424
093. StellaVanity : 0.695434 04 0 0 0.169638
094. Fantasy Zone II: The Tears Of Opa Opa (System 16) : 0.683356 02 0 2 0.181807
095. Ginga Force : 0.674889 02 0 1 0.204362
096. Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream [Touhou 3] : 0.657365 01 0 2 0.205326
097. Triggerheart Exelica : 0.652826 04 0 1 0.124311
098. R-Type II : 0.640263 03 1 0 0.162593
099. Tatsujin Oh / Truxton II : 0.632666 04 0 0 0.141652
100. Undeadline (MD) : 0.631060 03 1 2 0.105829
101. Jamestown : 0.627491 03 0 0 0.174452
102. Shikigami no Shiro II / Castle Shikigami II : 0.623560 05 0 0 0.102485
103. Raiden Fighters : 0.618308 04 0 0 0.135251
104. Mahou Daisakusen : 0.614902 04 0 0 0.133732
105. R-Type Leo : 0.614554 03 0 0 0.168684
106. Blue Revolver : 0.609318 04 0 0 0.131243
107. Gradius III (SNES) : 0.607865 04 1 0 0.113041
108. Air Gallet / Akuu Gallet : 0.606320 03 1 1 0.121129
109. Musha Aleste / M.U.S.H.A. : 0.595591 05 0 0 0.090015
110. Galaga '88 / Galaga '90 : 0.588306 04 0 0 0.121874
111. RayStorm : 0.576818 03 1 1 0.107975
112. Thunder Force V : 0.569646 02 2 1 0.122331
113. Psyvariar Revision : 0.555366 05 0 0 0.072080
114. Exed Exes : 0.553670 03 0 0 0.141538
115. Imperishable Night [Touhou 8] : 0.537980 02 0 1 0.143320
116. Battle Traverse : 0.537804 03 0 1 0.108134
117. Double Spoiler [Touhou 12.5] : 0.527310 01 0 0 0.200000
118. Xexex : 0.524339 03 0 1 0.102130
119. Fantasy Zone : 0.520365 04 0 0 0.091582
120. Dogyuun : 0.516427 03 0 0 0.124933
121. Super Spacefortress Macross II : 0.511833 03 2 0 0.087778
122. Illvelo : 0.494926 01 0 1 0.159231
123. Ibara Kuro / Black Label : 0.494243 02 0 0 0.150149
124. Phantasmagoria of Flower View [Touhou 9] : 0.493287 01 0 1 0.158500
125. Zanac Neo : 0.486455 02 2 1 0.085239
126. Hyper Duel : 0.477959 02 1 1 0.099005
127. Gradius III (ARC) : 0.476388 03 0 1 0.080751
128. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil [Touhou 6] : 0.458611 02 0 0 0.134263
129. Score Rush (MP) : 0.453042 02 0 0 0.131779
130. Raiden II : 0.432973 02 0 0 0.122831
131. Robotron 2084 : 0.426400 02 0 0 0.119901
132. Sky Adventure : 0.423523 02 0 0 0.118618
133. Detana!! TwinBee : 0.422558 01 1 1 0.109411
134. Chaos Field : 0.420416 02 0 1 0.090902
135. Mamoru-kun wa Norowarete Shimatta! : 0.418857 03 0 0 0.081431
136. 19XX: The War Against Destiny : 0.413568 03 0 0 0.079072
137. Galaga : 0.405919 02 0 0 0.110769
138. Soldier Blade : 0.388322 02 2 0 0.067816
139. KiKi KaiKai: Nazo no Kuro Manto / Pocky & Rocky : 0.388059 02 1 0 0.085253
140. Recca [Summer Carnival '92] : 0.387392 02 3 0 0.049848
141. Zanac (NES) : 0.386032 03 0 0 0.066795
142. Deathsmiles II / IIX : 0.385000 03 0 0 0.066335
143. Shoot the Bullet [Touhou 9.5] : 0.384122 02 0 0 0.101051
144. Hydorah : 0.383047 03 0 0 0.065464
145. XII Stag / XIIZeal : 0.374434 03 0 0 0.061624
146. Trizeal : 0.371865 02 0 0 0.095586
147. Thunder Force III : 0.371414 02 0 0 0.095385
148. Caladrius / Caladrius Blaze : 0.371197 03 0 0 0.060181
149. Space Bomber : 0.367349 01 1 1 0.084795
150. Mountain of Faith [Touhou 10] : 0.364564 02 0 1 0.066000
151. Aero Fighters 2 / Sonic Wings 2 : 0.364513 02 0 0 0.092308
152. Vulgus : 0.357612 02 0 0 0.089231
153. Harmful Park : 0.355155 02 0 0 0.088135
154. Pulstar : 0.349889 02 1 0 0.068234
155. Omega Fighter / Omega Fighter Special : 0.348938 03 0 0 0.050256
156. BioMetal : 0.345513 03 1 0 0.031176
157. Dangerous Seed : 0.341181 02 0 0 0.081905
158. Geometry Wars 2 : 0.339298 02 1 0 0.063512
159. Shienryu : 0.336847 02 1 0 0.062419
160. In The Hunt : 0.334583 02 0 0 0.078963
161. Psyvariar 2 : 0.330136 02 0 0 0.076980
162. Space Giraffe : 0.325850 01 0 1 0.083846
163. Zing Zing Zip : 0.324340 01 0 1 0.083173
164. 1942 : 0.323106 02 0 0 0.073846
165. Gunbird : 0.323106 02 0 0 0.073846
166. Subterranean Animism [Touhou 11] : 0.323100 02 0 0 0.073844
167. The Guardian Legend : 0.319656 02 0 0 0.072308
168. Elemental Master : 0.316469 02 1 0 0.053333
169. Explosive Breaker / Bakuretsu Breaker : 0.316461 02 0 0 0.070883
170. Darius II : 0.315618 02 0 0 0.070507
171. Sengoku Ace / Samurai Aces : 0.314169 02 1 0 0.052308
172. Vasara 2 : 0.313572 02 0 0 0.069595
173. Karous : 0.313342 01 0 1 0.078269
174. Lords of Thunder / Winds of Thunder : 0.308695 02 1 0 0.049867
175. Gate of Thunder : 0.305231 02 2 0 0.030769
176. Exzisus : 0.299112 02 0 0 0.063148
177. Sky Kid : 0.297802 02 0 0 0.062564
178. TwinBee Yahho! : 0.296610 00 0 2 0.079586
179. Power Strike II (SMS) : 0.295953 02 0 0 0.061739
180. Xevious : 0.295766 02 1 0 0.044103
181. Wing Force : 0.292700 03 0 0 0.025182
182. Image Fight : 0.284733 01 0 1 0.065514
183. Raiden III : 0.282748 02 1 0 0.038298
184. ring^-27 : 0.281898 01 0 1 0.064250
185. Samidare : 0.279267 01 0 1 0.063077
186. GunNail : 0.273121 01 0 0 0.086667
187. Raiden IV : 0.268251 02 2 0 0.014281
188. Game Tengoku : 0.267898 02 0 0 0.049231
189. Aero Fighters / Sonic Wings (ARC/SNES) : 0.267634 01 1 0 0.066667
190. Akashicverse : 0.265161 02 0 0 0.048011
191. Space Invaders Extreme 2 : 0.264383 01 1 0 0.065217
192. Valtric : 0.263880 02 0 0 0.047439
193. Revolver360 RE:ACTOR : 0.263480 01 1 0 0.064815
194. Fast Striker : 0.258522 02 0 0 0.045051
195. Satazius : 0.256132 01 1 0 0.061538
196. Boogie Wings / The Great Ragtime Show : 0.254095 02 0 0 0.043077
197. Twinkle Tale : 0.252681 01 1 0 0.060000
198. Power Strike / Aleste : 0.251267 01 0 0 0.076923
199. Valkyrius : 0.248261 01 0 1 0.049253
200. Daioh : 0.244655 02 0 0 0.038868
201. Velocity Ultra : 0.244366 01 0 0 0.073846
201. Legion - Spinner-87 : 0.244366 01 0 0 0.073846
203. Dragon Spirit : 0.242079 02 0 0 0.037719
204. Bermuda Triangle : 0.237465 01 0 0 0.070769
205. Zed Blade / Operation Ragnarok : 0.234734 02 0 0 0.034444
206. Gynoug / Wings of Wor : 0.234537 02 0 0 0.034356
207. Vector Strain : 0.230564 01 0 0 0.067692
208. F/A / Fighter & Attacker : 0.228528 01 1 0 0.049231
209. Shikigami no Shiro III : 0.227640 01 0 1 0.040058
210. Momoiro Underground : 0.225013 01 0 0 0.065217
211. Raptor - Call of the Shadows : 0.223663 01 0 0 0.064615
211. Super-X : 0.223663 01 0 0 0.064615
213. Star Soldier (GC) : 0.223627 01 0 1 0.038269
214. Super Spacefortress Macross : 0.221946 01 1 0 0.046296
215. Syder Arcade : 0.216762 01 0 0 0.061538
215. SOS (ARC) : 0.216762 01 0 0 0.061538
217. Shock Troopers : 0.213311 01 0 0 0.060000
218. X-Multiply : 0.211603 02 0 0 0.024131
219. Strikers 1945 Plus : 0.209861 01 0 0 0.058462
219. Fire Hawk : 0.209861 01 0 0 0.058462
221. RayCrisis : 0.209655 01 1 0 0.040816
222. Prehistoric Isle 2 : 0.207824 01 1 0 0.040000
223. Black Heart : 0.206903 01 0 0 0.057143
224. BlaZeon : 0.205694 01 0 0 0.056604
225. Story of Eastern Wonderland [Touhou 2] : 0.202960 01 0 0 0.055385
226. R-Type III: The Third Lightning : 0.200742 01 1 0 0.036842
226. R-Type Final : 0.200742 01 1 0 0.036842
228. Twin Falcons : 0.196059 01 0 0 0.052308
229. Dragon Breed : 0.193664 02 0 0 0.016133
230. Gratia - Second Earth : 0.192959 01 0 0 0.050926
231. Apidya : 0.191446 01 0 0 0.050251
231. Mr. Heli No Daibouken : 0.191446 01 0 0 0.050251
233. Gemini Wing : 0.190375 02 0 0 0.014667
234. Thunder Force AC : 0.189157 01 0 0 0.049231
234. Söldner-X: Himmelsstürmer : 0.189157 01 0 0 0.049231
236. Gekirindan : 0.187121 01 1 0 0.030769
237. Gradius IV : 0.183459 01 2 0 0.011583
238. Final Boss : 0.182029 01 0 0 0.046053
239. Grid Seeker: Project Storm Hammer : 0.180760 01 1 0 0.027933
240. Bio-Hazard Battle : 0.180176 01 0 0 0.045226
240. Z-Out : 0.180176 01 0 0 0.045226
242. rRootage : 0.180169 00 0 1 0.054000
243. Mystic Riders / Mahou Keibitai Gun Hohki : 0.179687 01 2 0 0.009901
244. Cotton: Fantastic Night Dreams : 0.176414 00 0 1 0.052326
245. Revolution Ace : 0.175355 01 0 0 0.043077
245. Graze Counter : 0.175355 01 0 0 0.043077
247. Air Buster / Aero Blasters : 0.171282 02 0 0 0.006154
247. Phoenix : 0.171282 02 0 0 0.006154
249. Last Resort : 0.170285 01 0 0 0.040816
250. Danmaku Unlimited 2 : 0.168454 01 0 0 0.040000
250. Bio-Ship Paladin : 0.168454 01 0 0 0.040000
250. Rapid Hero : 0.168454 01 0 0 0.040000
253. Tumiki Fighters : 0.165711 00 1 1 0.030000
254. Thunder Cross II : 0.163376 01 0 0 0.037736
255. Andro Dunos : 0.161809 01 0 0 0.037037
256. Akkanvader / Space Invaders '95 : 0.161553 01 0 0 0.036923
257. Gradius Galaxies : 0.161372 01 0 0 0.036842
258. RefRain: Prism Memories : 0.159517 01 1 0 0.018462
259. Beamrider : 0.157634 01 0 0 0.035176
260. eXceed 3rd - Jade Penetrate Black Package : 0.156080 01 0 0 0.034483
260. Alltynex 2nd : 0.156080 01 0 0 0.034483
260. Leiria ~Stargazer~ : 0.156080 01 0 0 0.034483
260. Zen-Ichi : 0.156080 01 0 0 0.034483
264. Salamander / Life Force (NES) : 0.154652 01 0 0 0.033846
264. Giga Wing Generations : 0.154652 01 0 0 0.033846
266. Earth Defense Force : 0.151425 01 0 0 0.032407
267. Radirgy Noa : 0.147751 01 0 0 0.030769
267. XX Mission : 0.147751 01 0 0 0.030769
269. Sonic Wings Special : 0.146364 01 0 0 0.030151
270. Raiden V / Director's Cut : 0.144706 01 0 0 0.029412
271. Phelios : 0.142822 01 0 0 0.028571
271. Brave Blade : 0.142822 01 0 0 0.028571
273. Omega Five : 0.142217 01 0 0 0.028302
274. Galaxian : 0.140850 01 0 0 0.027692
274. Firepower 2000 / Super SWIV : 0.140850 01 0 0 0.027692
276. Söldner-X 2: Final Prototype : 0.139358 01 0 0 0.027027
277. Cosmo Gang: The Video : 0.138550 01 0 0 0.026667
277. Mad Shark : 0.138550 01 0 0 0.026667
277. Blade Buster : 0.138550 01 0 0 0.026667
280. Murasaki : 0.137763 01 0 0 0.026316
280. Sora : 0.137763 01 0 0 0.026316
282. Undefined Fantastic Object [Touhou 12] : 0.136053 01 1 0 0.008000
283. Arbalester : 0.133949 01 0 0 0.024615
283. Return of the Invaders : 0.133949 01 0 0 0.024615
283. In Extremis : 0.133949 01 0 0 0.024615
286. P-47 Aces : 0.130658 01 0 0 0.023148
286. Guxt : 0.130658 01 0 0 0.023148
288. Gallop - Armed Police Unit : 0.129915 01 1 0 0.005263
288. Bangai-O : 0.129915 01 1 0 0.005263
290. U.N. Squadron (SNES) : 0.129438 01 1 0 0.005051
291. Every Extend Extra : 0.127048 01 0 0 0.021538
291. Vimana : 0.127048 01 0 0 0.021538
293. Warning Forever : 0.126460 01 0 0 0.021277
294. 1943: The Battle of Midway : 0.123597 01 0 0 0.020000
295. Tatsujin / Truxton : 0.121357 00 0 1 0.027778
296. Bullet Hell Monday : 0.120147 01 0 0 0.018462
296. DoDonPachi II: Bee Storm : 0.120147 01 0 0 0.018462
296. Titanion : 0.120147 01 0 0 0.018462
296. Tempest 2000 : 0.120147 01 0 0 0.018462
300. Valhellio : 0.117410 01 0 0 0.017241
300. XOP Black : 0.117410 01 0 0 0.017241
300. Cambria Sword : 0.117410 01 0 0 0.017241
303. Keio Flying Squadron : 0.116121 01 0 0 0.016667
303. Ai Cho Aniki : 0.116121 01 0 0 0.016667
305. Desert War : 0.113246 01 0 0 0.015385
306. Darius / Darius Extra : 0.108645 01 0 0 0.013333
307. Space Manbow : 0.108530 00 0 1 0.022059
308. Assault Android Cactus : 0.108251 01 0 0 0.013158
309. Subterrania : 0.106952 01 0 0 0.012579
310. Ordyne : 0.106344 01 0 0 0.012308
310. Thunder Force II : 0.106344 01 0 0 0.012308
312. Resogun : 0.104719 01 0 0 0.011583
313. Time Pilot : 0.099443 01 0 0 0.009231
313. Darwin 4078 : 0.099443 01 0 0 0.009231
313. Nexzr : 0.099443 01 0 0 0.009231
313. Asteroids Deluxe : 0.099443 01 0 0 0.009231
317. Granada : 0.098175 00 0 1 0.017442
318. Flame Zapper Kotsujin : 0.096683 01 0 0 0.008000
318. Magical Singular Day -Absolution- : 0.096683 01 0 0 0.008000
318. Blue Wish Resurrection : 0.096683 01 0 0 0.008000
318. Phantasmagoria Trues : 0.096683 01 0 0 0.008000
322. Nostradamus : 0.093692 01 0 0 0.006667
323. Silpheed (SCD) : 0.092846 01 0 0 0.006289
324. Super Star Soldier : 0.092542 01 0 0 0.006154
324. Dropzone (NES) : 0.092542 01 0 0 0.006154
326. Thunder Force VI : 0.090361 01 0 0 0.005181
326. Neo XYX : 0.090361 01 0 0 0.005181
328. Kaikan : 0.087570 01 0 0 0.003937
329. Hellfire : 0.087091 00 0 1 0.012500
329. Gridrunner (iOS) : 0.087091 00 0 1 0.012500
331. Sonic Sisters : 0.085641 01 0 0 0.003077
332. Dragon Saber : 0.078740 00 2 0 0.000000
333. Ketsui Death Label : 0.075877 00 0 1 0.007500
333. Star Force : 0.075877 00 0 1 0.007500
335. Night Raid : 0.073073 00 0 1 0.006250
335. Beat da Beat : 0.073073 00 0 1 0.006250
337. Gyruss (NES) : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Gundemonium Recollection : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Aero Chimera : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Quantized Blaze : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Shoot 1Up : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Gaia Seed: Project Seed Trap : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Blast Wind : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Three Wonders: Chariot : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Section Z : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. U.N. Squadron / Area 88 (ARC) : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. KiKi KaiKai : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Terra Cresta : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. River Raid : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Final Soldier : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. TwinBee : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Zangeki Warp : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Space Invaders Extreme : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. Exzeal : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000
337. IKUSAAAAAAAN! : 0.039370 00 1 0 0.000000Live to fly, fly to live, it's all very orthodox
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Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
I also have been really impressed by Blue Revolver. It just seems like very solid design, although IDK how it compares depthwise with a lot of games since I'm not digging that deep with it. The presentation is also really good. Probably better than most arcade games. I especially like just how unique and enticing the art style is. Good music too. Well done, Stellar Circle (^_^)dEmperorIng wrote:
I will reiterate that I voted for Blue Revolver as more than worthy of standing with a list of arcade greats, and as I mentioned in the discussion thread: it's one of the best shooters made in the last few years. Great difficulty modes, weapons, and stage design.
Ah yes, those were a lot of fun. Unfortunately, it probably would have been impossible for him to get a very full representation of each individual game, because there's only so much time to play 100+ games, but they're still a nice overview. Also they are how I discovered how awesome Juno First and V . V are. Not to mention a few games that I didn't end up playing quite as much, but seemed promising like Varth.God wrote:I end up hitting Rob's countdown threads for that kind of thing.
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Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Nobody voted for Gradius Galaxies but me. Weird. Is it not well liked for some reason? I had a lot of fun with it.
Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
The music is absolutely horrendous. As a big gradius fan, id rank galaxies as having the worst soundtrack of the entire series, and by a massive margin. It completely ruins the game for me, and it's too bad because I think the gameplay is actually pretty solid, especially for a handheld.God wrote:Nobody voted for Gradius Galaxies but me. Weird. Is it not well liked for some reason? I had a lot of fun with it.
Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Gradius V should be higher on the list, but I'll settle with it being above Gaiden.
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Galaxies soundtrack to me is not that bad. That was because of poor soundfont selection the developers used, kinda same thing like Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance. Jorge D. Fuentes's arrangement or Shimoine's VRC6 remix is really well-done and how Galaxies OST should have been.pegboy wrote:The music is absolutely horrendous. As a big gradius fan, id rank galaxies as having the worst soundtrack of the entire series
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Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
The big list is nice as a way of having a means of anonymously judging what must have been all those joke votes. I just noticed there was one vote for Bioship Paladin... And two for 1942. 
I'm surprised Divine Sealing didn't sneak in there.
How is TF4 "fundamentally busted"?
I'm surprised Divine Sealing didn't sneak in there.I mean, in a list of only 25 games, there is lots of competition already from other venerable Konami shootemups... like Gradius. Or fucking Mad Shark apparently, lmao. Lord I'm getting flashbacks.God wrote:Nobody voted for Gradius Galaxies but me. Weird. Is it not well liked for some reason? I had a lot of fun with it.
I know Perikles has lots of good things to say about it, but even in this age of easy emulation (and now Super SD Systems), scarcity has a way of driving people off. I'm a chump and never played it either.Despatche wrote: I'm surprised noone ever mentions Sapphire. That game is also probably on a list of perfect games. Maybe. The selectable characters/weapon types kinda push it.
How is TF4 "fundamentally busted"?
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Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
I was bored so I pulled out the top 25 non-arcade games from the overall list. Didn't check it too thoroughly so there may be mistakes. Not really much to say since there are so few votes for everything below the top 4. Great Fairy Wars scored pretty high for only getting 2 votes and 1 HM.
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Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
@pegboy Cotton Boomerang, G-Stream G2020 and Gradius III are all arcade games.
Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
The Gradius III entry is for the SNES version, which is counted as a separate game in this poll. Cotton Boomerang and G-Stream G2020 are both arcade-original games, though. Strania was also released for arcades (through NESiCAxLive) but I'm not sure if that was before or after the XBLA release.
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Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
IIRC there is an infinite scoring exploit somewhere. I don't remember where.EmperorIng wrote:
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Nevermind. I will fix my list.
Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Here is the list of top 25 non-arcade shooters extracted from the overall list.
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###. Game Name Total Score|Votes|HMs|SLs|Total Game Weight
Top 25:
011. Gradius V : 4.161943 22 1 0 1.065737
015. Gradius Gaiden : 3.397778 15 0 2 0.935668
029. R-Type Delta : 2.699808 14 0 2 0.659578
038. Thunder Force IV / Lightening Force : 2.085354 10 0 1 0.552376
049. Perfect Cherry Blossom [Touhou 7] : 1.489980 06 2 1 0.392243
052. Judgement Silversword : 1.412576 06 0 1 0.392839
056. Eschatos : 1.315928 06 2 2 0.288310
060. Cho Ren Sha 68K : 1.188629 06 1 2 0.249106
061. Great Fairy Wars [Touhou 12.8] : 1.185570 02 1 3 0.361841
064. Einhänder : 1.128525 07 2 0 0.222308
073. Super Aleste / Space Megaforce : 0.979654 05 0 0 0.261254
074. Kamui : 0.909680 06 1 0 0.177394
079. Mecha Ritz / Steel Rondo : 0.822477 05 1 0 0.173621
089. Hellsinker : 0.707489 03 1 0 0.192567
092. Axelay : 0.699921 06 0 0 0.101424
093. StellaVanity : 0.695434 04 0 0 0.169638
095. Ginga Force : 0.674889 02 0 1 0.204362
096. Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream [Touhou 3] : 0.657365 01 0 2 0.205326
100. Undeadline (MD) : 0.631060 03 1 2 0.105829
101. Jamestown : 0.627491 03 0 0 0.174452
106. Blue Revolver : 0.609318 04 0 0 0.131243
107. Gradius III (SNES) : 0.607865 04 1 0 0.113041
109. Musha Aleste / M.U.S.H.A. : 0.595591 05 0 0 0.090015
112. Thunder Force V : 0.569646 02 2 1 0.122331
115. Imperishable Night [Touhou 8] : 0.537980 02 0 1 0.143320
Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
I'm not saying console games deserve to rank in the top 25 or that people should vote for them just for variety, or anything like that.For consoles, I think as Xyga mentioned, if you take away the ports there are less original games that would sit with the "big boys" outside of fan favorites.
Just that...if the purpose of the top 25 is this:
I just don't see a way to get a meaningful top X NES, TG16 or whatever from the results.originally conceived as a way to expand upon and combine the typical "rate your top __!!!" threads I can only assume used to be littered all over the place like they are on most other fansites.
Even the 25 highest ranking non-arcade games already have entries sneaking in that only 1 or 2 people voted for.
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Re: 15th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
I missed the vote this year, but it's interesting to look at the results. I don't like Cave stuff, but I understand that others do, so I'm not fussed about Cave being so strongly represented. However, there is one game I just don't get: Gradius Gaiden.
I love horizontals (esp. Irem and Konami), I love Gradius (my favourite is G2 on Famicom), and I love PSX shmups (especially Delta, Einhander, and G-Darius). So Gradius Gaiden is very much "my type". But I've never been able to appreciate it. A big problem is that the music doesn't appeal to me -- which is a great disappointment after the music of its predecessors. Besides that, I don't find its design to be as inspired as G2's -- or even G3's (SNES version). Maybe the best part is the 2P mode, but even that isn't enough to bring me back to it.
How it rates so consistently well on our T25 is just mystifying for me....
I love horizontals (esp. Irem and Konami), I love Gradius (my favourite is G2 on Famicom), and I love PSX shmups (especially Delta, Einhander, and G-Darius). So Gradius Gaiden is very much "my type". But I've never been able to appreciate it. A big problem is that the music doesn't appeal to me -- which is a great disappointment after the music of its predecessors. Besides that, I don't find its design to be as inspired as G2's -- or even G3's (SNES version). Maybe the best part is the 2P mode, but even that isn't enough to bring me back to it.
How it rates so consistently well on our T25 is just mystifying for me....