G Rev - Pick What They Do Next

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What Should G Rev Make Next?

New Horizontal Shooter (likely requires successful Crowd Funding Campaign)
87
41%
New Sidescrolling Action Game (likely requires successful Crowd Funding Campaign)
11
5%
New Bullet Hell Vertical Shooter (likely requires successful Crowd Funding Campaign)
48
23%
Sequel to an Existing Dormant Japanese IP like Magical Drop, Windjammers, etc (Reply with a comment specifying which)
12
6%
Port of Strania that you can buy on a PCB format
5
2%
Port of Under Defeat HD that you can buy on a PCB format
2
1%
Border Down HD (Higher resolution version of their classic on a PCB format)
47
22%
 
Total votes: 212

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Shepardus wrote: They're probably able to do it for cheap and there are enough people who don't care about the issues or buy it anyway to "show support" for retro ports.
KAI wrote:I think he's talking about Golgoth Studio, they made Mag Drop V.
Well DotEmu's Double Dragon Trilogy compilation on Steam and smartphones was pretty mediocre, with many questionable design choices (e.g. intrusive HUD for each game, sprite rips from the Genesis version on the main menu, no option to play the Japanese version of Double Dragon 3 without the item shops), but I heard good things about their recent Monster World II remake.
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I voted for Border Down both for affective reasons, and because I would love a PC version of it.
Any new games from old IPs would be great, especially if DECO or SNK.
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Dave_K. wrote:Seeing comments in this thread not care so much for PCB release (and rightfully so being a niche market of operators and collectors), I wonder if Tanoshimasu's Aki to Blue's progression is a better economic model for new releases, starting with Mobile, porting to Console, and then porting to Arcade. I'd imagine its cheaper to release and iterate on mobile first, and by the time you get to arcade port, you pretty much have a good indication of operator income potential.
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Shou wrote: Hardware is PC based and operates similarly to a Type X2 - the world has converged.
Any chance the devs could also support 640x480 res too? Pretty please.
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jimmerd wrote:But then.. perhaps introduce a home variant with USB input for a gamepad and HDMI support to widen the appeal.
Bananamatic wrote:that's called a port
Other h/w such as Examu Ex-board / NeoConcpt already supported this an it worked well for SNK - although the way games are delivered has changed a bit since then.

As a collector dedicated hardware and game kit is more fun. I don't want to run games on my PC with other stuff getting in the way.

Yes from the game players point of view, a home port on steam at a decent price allows more choice in then end.

The model proposed seems to support both options whilst supporting the developers - so we get more games as a result.

You can think of the dedicated hardware release as ironing out any bugs or balancing issue for your steam release. :wink:

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I'm rather surprised by the percentage of people who would prefer a hori over a vert in this poll, as most here seem to veer more towards verts.
There's definitely a trend over the last few years of a growing love for the hori's. So why is this? Hori's certainly capture the mainstreams attention more than verts, but thats not reflected on these boards. Is it an over-saturation of verts leading to people yearning for something different, or what? I'd be interested to know why die-hard vert fans have voted this way.
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Under Defeat HD on Steam would be great :)
And yeah, Gradius V was also a blast. Its the only reason I still have a ps2 at home.
I also hope that It will be possible to not framecap at 60fps.
Many devs still do that, but since monitors with more than 60hz are getting standard, it would help a lot with motion clarity on lcd's
when it comes to fast moving bullets in shmup games.
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tizerist wrote:I'm rather surprised by the percentage of people who would prefer a hori over a vert in this poll, as most here seem to veer more towards verts.
There's definitely a trend over the last few years of a growing love for the hori's. So why is this? Hori's certainly capture the mainstreams attention more than verts, but thats not reflected on these boards. Is it an over-saturation of verts leading to people yearning for something different, or what? I'd be interested to know why die-hard vert fans have voted this way.
Since this is G.Rev, it could be that people just really like Border Down and want to see more in that vein, but yeah it's probably everyone wanting to give the studio a little help by not making them go for a vertical game which means a pretty hardcore bullet hell nowadays, even the poll mentions this aspect.
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As much as I'd like to just vote for the meme option of Border Down, I kinda want them to do a new horizontal game. Turns out people agree.

They should have a look at Einhander. I think they are more than capable of delivering a good game out of that. They already did something similar with Strania, and at least a lot of Americans (way more than who actually bought the game in 1998, of course) would be on board with a game that simply advertises itself as "the spiritual successor to Einhander". Maybe it's a bad idea, I don't know, but I doubt it'd sell any less than what they've already made.
tizerist wrote:I'm rather surprised by the percentage of people who would prefer a hori over a vert in this poll, as most here seem to veer more towards verts.
There's definitely a trend over the last few years of a growing love for the hori's. So why is this? Hori's certainly capture the mainstreams attention more than verts, but thats not reflected on these boards. Is it an over-saturation of verts leading to people yearning for something different, or what? I'd be interested to know why die-hard vert fans have voted this way.
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Playing through Strania reminded me how much I love mechs in a stg setting. I'd love to see something new done in a similar style. Bonus points if mechs transform :twisted: .
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Will the arcade h/w be sold to consumers or it exclusive for operators in Japan because of security and so on?

I guess the cost of a new kit could be prohibitive although for the right game it would be very tempting, even if it's a limited H/W run made without credit or online support around the time of the steam release.
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jimmerd wrote:Will the arcade h/w be sold to consumers or it exclusive for operators in Japan because of security and so on?

I guess the cost of a new kit could be prohibitive although for the right game it would be very tempting, even if it's a limited H/W run made without credit or online support around the time of the steam release.
The arcade release is for all people and regions. Japanese distribution will be handled separate from us.
For overseas, we have different partners but are going to do online sales.

Each release will have a limited edition run with extra goodies just for the collectors.
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I'd love to see old vets take another crack at horizontal games.
There aren't enough modern ones being made these days, especially not by devs are prolific as G Rev.
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Changed my vote to Border Down HD. Doesn't look like it's gonna win, though.

I still want someone respectable, G.Rev or otherwise, to make a Tatsujin sequel. Even a Toa port package would suffice for now.
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OmegaFlareX wrote:Changed my vote to Border Down HD. Doesn't look like it's gonna win, though.

I still want someone respectable, G.Rev or otherwise, to make a Tatsujin sequel. Even a Toa port package would suffice for now.
The current IP holder for Toaplan is a notoriously difficult person to work with which is why you don't see these already. There are several Tatsujinou ports that have been sitting completed but unable to be sold due to this situation.
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If we talk non-grev ips

What about Psykio franchises?

What about Milestone franchises (Klov stopped using it?) and, more important, getting K.H.D.N. to compose new shmup music?
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Wow... I'm hoping for a new atmospheric horizontal STG!
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Shou wrote:The current IP holder for Toaplan is a notoriously difficult person to work with which is why you don't see these already. There are several Tatsujinou ports that have been sitting completed but unable to be sold due to this situation.
Is he someone who actually worked for Toaplan as a designer? I could understand he was a bit oveprotective of his IPs.
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Jonny2x4 wrote:Is he someone who actually worked for Toaplan as a designer? I could understand he was a bit oveprotective of his IPs.
I'm curious as to who it is as well.
Shou wrote:There are several Tatsujinou ports that have been sitting completed but unable to be sold due to this situation.
The mind boggles. :shock:
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Jonny2x4 wrote:
Shou wrote:The current IP holder for Toaplan is a notoriously difficult person to work with which is why you don't see these already. There are several Tatsujinou ports that have been sitting completed but unable to be sold due to this situation.
Is he someone who actually worked for Toaplan as a designer? I could understand he was a bit oveprotective of his IPs.
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Shou wrote:
Jonny2x4 wrote:
Shou wrote:The current IP holder for Toaplan is a notoriously difficult person to work with which is why you don't see these already. There are several Tatsujinou ports that have been sitting completed but unable to be sold due to this situation.
Is he someone who actually worked for Toaplan as a designer? I could understand he was a bit oveprotective of his IPs.
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I'm a complete idiot. Someone needs to talk to G.rev about Psychic Force.
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Shou wrote:
OmegaFlareX wrote:Changed my vote to Border Down HD. Doesn't look like it's gonna win, though.

I still want someone respectable, G.Rev or otherwise, to make a Tatsujin sequel. Even a Toa port package would suffice for now.
The current IP holder for Toaplan is a notoriously difficult person to work with which is why you don't see these already. There are several Tatsujinou ports that have been sitting completed but unable to be sold due to this situation.
When was it made clear that they were the proper copyright holder? Last I remember reading (which was admittedly a while back) who actually had them was a very, very gray area and nobody wanted to take the risk.
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Thanks everyone for your valuable feedback.

I'll discuss the results with G Rev's CEO, Maruyama-san, this week.

Feel free to continue to discuss what you like to see and keep voting.

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Shou, any commentary on possibility of contacting Kou Hayashi and Daisuke Nagata (k.h.d.n.) for new shmup soundtracks?
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qmish wrote:Shou, any commentary on possibility of contacting Kou Hayashi and Daisuke Nagata (k.h.d.n.) for new shmup soundtracks?
It all depends upon the project and economics. In general, some developers don't like certain musicians and vice versa so that is always a factor.
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I wouldn't mind G.rev going back to either Shinji Hosoe or Yousuke Yasui.
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I'm going to go with either a port or a sequel to dormant ip. I don't see crowdfunding working if the goal is anything like 1 million. And i imagine a sequel to some dormant ip would only work for games that are relatively compact (like indeed magical drop or windjammers). I can't see a hd redraw of tophunter (to name something random) be viable business-wise; it'll cost a fortune to redraw.
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I picked sequal to an existing IP, because I can barely afford steam releases, let alone pcbs. But I actually just want ports of games I missed, enhanced ports or added content would be great, but not needed.

I am a casual, if that informs your decision.

I would love if there was more access to the older G-Rev games I missed being a nintendo fan. I would love a port or border down or gradius v.
But if other ports were on the table I would love a port of Armed Police Batrider or G-Darius.

Thanks for reading my comments.

Edit: I forgot the horizontal shooter called Biohazard Battle (クライング 亜生命戦争). I'm pretty sure it had an arcade and genesis release. I would very much love a sequal to the game.
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Jonny2x4 wrote:
Shepardus wrote: They're probably able to do it for cheap and there are enough people who don't care about the issues or buy it anyway to "show support" for retro ports.
KAI wrote:I think he's talking about Golgoth Studio, they made Mag Drop V.
Well DotEmu's Double Dragon Trilogy compilation on Steam and smartphones was pretty mediocre, with many questionable design choices (e.g. intrusive HUD for each game, sprite rips from the Genesis version on the main menu, no option to play the Japanese version of Double Dragon 3 without the item shops), but I heard good things about their recent Monster World II remake.
The Monster World II remake was only published by Dotemu and was handled by the person responsible for the Meka emulator.
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