Music that Battle Garegga was based off

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I've always thought the piano part in Fly To The Leaden Sky was a reference to/inspired by Strings of Life, also by Rhythim Is Rhythim, aka Derrick May (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFQZndywOR4, right at the beginning). In fact, I was surprised to see Derrick May mentioned in the OP but no mention of this track specifically. I guess I'm either completely wrong or this comparison was too obvious to mention, heh.
Honestly, I think the music in Battle Garegga is hands down the best music in ANY shmup.
I would second that, although I'm kinda sad it's missing the Manabu Namiki trademark reprise of stage 1 at the end of the game.
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I originally planed to give the interview feature another read and type up more but things have been stupid busy so I'll just post some of my quick and dirty notes (stuff in parenthesis is my own commentary):

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-The feature has quotes from Namiki but it's mostly written in the third person.

-Naniki says he originally got into techno not through 12"s or visiting clubs (unlike the handsome Yuzo Koshiro) but through CD compilations that were released in Japan back then. At the time CD releases of this type of music were relatively rare. Namiki adds that he's a CD guy and not especially into vinyl or anything like that.

-Stage 6 was influenced by Carl Craig's 'They Were'

-Stage 5 was influenced by Dan Curtin's 'Subconscious Awareness'. Namiki notes that a white guy doing techno struck him as uncommon (my how things have changed). This track was originally meant for stage 1 but after a loc-test they received comments saying that that it didn't sound like a stage 1 track. Afterwards he rushed back to the office and started writing what it now the stage 1 track.

-Namiki also goes on a bit about how he couldn't help but make connections in his head between the game's steampunk aesthetic (isn't it more like diesel-punk?) and the harsh and gritty environment from which techno was born, i.e. 1980s Detroit.

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Anyway, they're lots of other great details to gleam from this feature. I'll try to write more of it up when I get a chance.
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Thanks for that :)
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Really great thread, glad it was necro'd or I'd never have seen it. The "Fly to the Leaden Sky" connection is pretty clear, will have to check out some more CJ Bolland.
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heyyyy what a great idea for a thread! manabu namiki is one of my favorite game musicians out there, these influences are definitely no surprise. its crazy to see how closely his songs are based off their respective inspirations, makes me wonder how nobody saw this sooner
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Exy wrote:I've always thought the piano part in Fly To The Leaden Sky was a reference to/inspired by Strings of Life, also by Rhythim Is Rhythim, aka Derrick May (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFQZndywOR4, right at the beginning). In fact, I was surprised to see Derrick May mentioned in the OP but no mention of this track specifically. I guess I'm either completely wrong or this comparison was too obvious to mention, heh.
I need to go back and take another look but I think Namiki said that he was going for something with a general house vibe with the piano bits and didn't specifically mention The Innovator.
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great thread; I am glad that I spotted it again, also because the Doctor said that I need more Detroit Techno in my life.

Scrilla: I believe that Dieselpunk is a newer, still less popular term (<10 years?).
I am convinced that for quite a few people not particularly interested in "-punk" sub-genres, "steampunk" describes anything that looks retro and industrial.

Personally, I was convinced that it was a technical SF term (well, jargon) until 1 year or so. I am currently working in China, so I was quite surprised when some students asked me if I was into Dieselpunk, since I mentioned to them that I liked "old shooting games" (eh!).
Chomsky, Buckminster Fuller, Yunus and Glass would have played Battle Garegga, for sure.
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Sorry to necro. I do not know much about the history of techno, but Degeneracy (Plant) is definitely inspired by Paradise Planet (Area 1) from R-Type Leo. I have no idea what went into the writing/inspired the R-Type song though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtSkxqWE0B8 (Paradise Planet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHJJ0Q9xaa8 (Degeneracy)
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What a brilliant thread, I never saw it originally or after the first necro so thanks! I love Detroit techno and the Garegga soundtrack is easily one of my favourites in the genre, if not all gaming.
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I love shit like this. Just reminds me of how much Sonic brilliantly samples. I love seeing different cultures and wildly different subject matter pull from each other to make something great. This is so cool.
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Good thread, a playlist on YouTube would be cool.
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NeonLightIllusion wrote:Sorry to necro. I do not know much about the history of techno, but Degeneracy (Plant) is definitely inspired by Paradise Planet (Area 1) from R-Type Leo. I have no idea what went into the writing/inspired the R-Type song though.
It was suggested earlier in the thread that it might have been influenced by Mad Mike Bank's (leader of UR) Happy Records releases.

Hard to say though... or even to the degree he is influenced by these things

https://www.discogs.com/label/1713-Happy-Records

https://youtu.be/brTZ4a1reBY

https://youtu.be/CwbpAgOCiLM
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