13th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results

[Giest118]

Battle Garegga is the most accidentally good game ever made.

[Plasmo]

Battle Garegga is the most accidentally good game ever made.

This is so true, it's ridiculous.

[Herr Schatten]

Changing the subject a little, why is Strikers1945pt2 considered the best in the series and the best overall Psikyo game?
Not saying it isn't, just wondering why people tend to vote for it over the rest of the Psikyo library.

Because it's kind of a 'transitional' game between the straightforward earlier Psikyo and the more sophisticated later games. Thus, everyone who likes either flavour of Psikyo is pretty much guaranteed to also like Strikers II.

[chempop]

Changing the subject a little, why is Strikers1945pt2 considered the best in the series and the best overall Psikyo game?
Not saying it isn't, just wondering why people tend to vote for it over the rest of the Psikyo library.

Because it's kind of a 'transitional' game between the straightforward earlier Psikyo and the more sophisticated later games. Thus, everyone who likes either flavour of Psikyo is pretty much guaranteed to also like Strikers II.

That makes perfect sense.

[Xyga]

There must be a reason or two why people don't play Strikers III more, let me guess; because it's ugly and nasty ?

[chempop]

There must be a reason or two why people don't play Strikers III more, let me guess; because it's ugly and nasty ?

That makes perfect sense.



I do much prefer the graphics of part1.

[qmish]

Guys, you are cruel! I thought Australia stage looked pretty nice (and bosses of course, especially animations) in 1945-III

p.s.
Am i seeing things or vanilla 1945-II looks better than neo geo remix?

[Some-Mist]

There must be a reason or two why people don't play Strikers III more, let me guess; because it's ugly and nasty ?

it's so much fun tho.... (and it's the only one I voted for!)

those technical bonuses... mmmmmmm

[AeroCityMayor]

RLS prevented me from voting this year. Perhaps Psikyo may have had a better showing if I'd got my finger out!

[Rob]

There must be a reason or two why people don't play Strikers III more, let me guess; because it's ugly and nasty ?

Not ugly enough.

The best thing about it is easily the tech bonuses, which were done better in DB. Trivial item chaining bonuses.

Ship selection is bad. Isn't the popular thing just to go for the hidden ship, which is like a less fun version of II's Flying Pancake? Lame.

[Squire Grooktook]

Battle Garegga is the most accidentally good game ever made.

It's actually tied with Marvel Vs Capcom 2 for that title.

[DestroyTheCore]

I always noticed Battle Garegga's depth was unintended based on my limited experience with the game. I figure it is more appreciated for its approach developed by the community than the developers' intention. It kills the purpose of the game but I still highly respect players who master Battle Garegga. It requires so much dedication.

[Square_Air]

The gameplay is solid in S1945II, but i always found the graphics to be pretty mediocre outside of some cool boss designs (the last boss looks like garbage though) and that soundtrack is fairly homogenic and basic. IMHO, Gunbird II deserved it's spot.

[copy-paster]

There must be a reason or two why people don't play Strikers III more, let me guess; because it's ugly and nasty ?

Some shitty enemy placement and behavior.

[Stevens]

Ship selection is bad. Isn't the popular thing just to go for the hidden ship, which is like a less fun version of II's Flying Pancake? Lame.

Love the graphics, boss music, and boss design, but you're right - the planes are awful. I love the Mosquito in II. The Harrier in III (its equivalent) would be great too, if its bomb didn't have a delay.

The rest of the planes are too weak - just an opinion.

Edit - All this Psikyo talk..I think I know what I'm spending my amazon gift card on finally. Thanks guys!

[Strikers1945guy]

Ship selection is bad. Isn't the popular thing just to go for the hidden ship, which is like a less fun version of II's Flying Pancake? Lame.

Edit - All this Psikyo talk..I think I know what I'm spending my amazon gift card on finally. Thanks guys!

Psikyo is love !

[Kollision]

Psikyo is pain!

but we love pain, so...

[Stevens]

And transforming robots.

[Nameschonvergeben]

psikyo is the bad kind of pain though

[Strikers1945guy]

psikyo is the bad kind of pain though

The "why aren't the bullets moving super slow like in cave games" kind of pain?

[vvv_stg]

psikyo is the bad kind of pain though

The "why aren't the bullets moving super slow like in cave games" kind of pain?

Because some people actually enjoy seeing the bullets before they hit them?

[qmish]

^ but Battle Garegga... At least with Psikyo you see smth orange... While in Garegga you need time to recognize is it bullet or some flying trash

[Nameschonvergeben]

psikyo is the bad kind of pain though

The "why aren't the bullets moving super slow like in cave games" kind of pain?

The "why is this game so bland" kind of pain (maybe it's because I only played the first loop of strikers 1945 though)

[Giest118]

^ but Battle Garegga... At least with Psikyo you see smth orange... While in Garegga you need time to recognize is it bullet or some flying trash

The bad design is part of the completely legitimate challenge.

Like Sonic '06.

[Xyga]

All great games bear a few obvious flaws. But no average nor 'good' game displays several really fucking outstanding qualities at once.

Garegga is a great game.

There will always be some people to say it stinks though, but you know, when the sage points to the moon...

[qmish]

At least it's Garegga on 1st place, not Radiant Silvergun.

While RS impresses me in audiovisuals, it feels so aimless for me. "Okay you have 7 weapons and you are flying and hey - use this here, this here and this here...". I never got satisfaction of blowing up enemies in RS. Even "puzzle shmup" Ikaruga gives more of it.

All of above are my impressions of course.

[royalfan84]

Personally I like the faster more realistic- harder to see and less time to react psikyo and raizing bullets as opposed to the slow moving, huge, pinkish-purple curtains of cave. And I'm by no means a good shmup player; I just enjoy the former a lot more. Cave is awesome though almost in spite of that.

[Plasmo]

While RS impresses me in audiovisuals, it feels so aimless for me. "Okay you have 7 weapons and you are flying and hey - use this here, this here and this here...". I never got satisfaction of blowing up enemies in RS. Even "puzzle shmup" Ikaruga gives more of it.

I don't think anyone would put Silvergun over Ikaruga. The hierarchy is pretty clear here.

[Stevens]

The "why is this game so bland" kind of pain (maybe it's because I only played the first loop of strikers 1945 though)

Try one of the following:

Gunbird 2
Dragon Blaze
Zero Gunner 2

Anything but bland.

[Kollision]

While RS impresses me in audiovisuals, it feels so aimless for me. "Okay you have 7 weapons and you are flying and hey - use this here, this here and this here...". I never got satisfaction of blowing up enemies in RS. Even "puzzle shmup" Ikaruga gives more of it.

I don't think anyone would put Silvergun over Ikaruga. The hierarchy is pretty clear here.

imo Silvergun blows Ikaruga out of the water

by a laaarge margin btw