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 Post subject: Best Shmups by Each Company
PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:44 pm 



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This isn't based on my opinion, it's what I think would win in most people's opinions.

Nintendo - Solar Striker

Sega - Fantasy Zone II?

Masaya - Either Greylancer or one of the Cho Aniki games

Capcom - Varth

Irem - R-TYPE Delta

SNK - NeoGeo: Shooting Collection

T&E Soft - ZAS

Hudson Soft - Soldier Blade

CA Productions (COMPUTER ARTIST PRODUCTION) - Either one of the ____ of Thunder titles or Ginga Fukei Sapphire

Jaleco - One of the Game Tengoku titles

Arika - Metal Torrent

Konami - XEXEX?

8ing / Raizing - Battle Garegga

Toaplan - Batsugan

Vic Tokai - Battle Mania Daioujou

Tecno Soft - ThunderForce V (Saturn version)

Kaneko - Cyvern

Namco - One of the Xevious titles.

Sammy - Change Air Blade

Success - Either Cotton Boomerang or one of the Psyvariar titles

Natsume - Final Mission

Taito - One of the Ray titles.

Naxat Soft - Summer Carnival '92: Recca?

Marble - Hotdog Storm

Information Global Service (Japanese IGS) - Vattle Giuce

International Game System (Taiwanese IGS) - DoDonPachi II?

Cave - Mushihimesama Futari

Psikyo - GunBird 2

Technos Japan - Xain'd Sleena (also a run 'n' gun)

Comad - Either S. S. Mission or Gulf War II

Seta - Twin Eagle II: The Rescue Mission

Visco - Vasara 2

ADK - Twinkle Star Sprites

Tecmo - Either Raiga, Super Star Force (also an adventure game) or Final Star Force

Compile - Either Super Aleste, Guardic Gaiden or MUSHA Aleste

Data East - Either Kuuga / Vapor Trail or The Great Ragtime Show / Boogie Wings

Takumi - Mars Matrix

Gazelle - Air Gallet?

Treasure - Either Radiant Silvergun or Ikaruga

Seibu Kaihatsu - Raiden DX

MOSS - Raiden IV

Video System - Sonic Wings Special

Athena - Biometal?

Hot-B / StarFish - Either Over Horizon or Steel Empire

Aicom / Yumekobo - Blazing Star

UPL - Either Omega Fighter or Atomic Robo Kid

Uko - Defend the Terra Attack on the Red UFO

SIMS - Bomber Raid

Techno Soliel - Gaia Seed

NMK - Either Operation Ragnarok / Zed Blade or Thunder Dragon 2.

Skonec - Homera

Midway Games - One of the Defender titles.


That's all I can think of for now. Add more if you like.


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 Post subject: Re: Best Shmups by Each Company
PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:31 pm 


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Konami - XEXEX?



I'd love to hear your rationale for this one..
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 Post subject: Re: Best Shmups by Each Company
PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:42 pm 


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Blinge wrote:
1983parrothead wrote:

Konami - XEXEX?



I'd love to hear your rationale for this one..

Xexex is nowhere close to the likes of the Gradius/Parodius series in terms of popularity.
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 Post subject: Re: Best Shmups by Each Company
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Based on my minimal experience with Dragon Blaze, so far, I'm gonna rank it higher than Gunbird 2. More unique, similar in most of the ways that make GB2 awesome, Less annoying scoring (not that I'd be likely to play either game intensively for score), and slightly shorter length by a few minutes per loop. Also, Zero Gunner 2 might be a contender. Those who have played have liked it quite a bit, it seems, but I can't speak for it, personally.
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Capcom: 1943 Kai
Cave: DOJ
G.rev: Under Defeat
Irem: R-Type II
Konami: Gradius III (arcade)
Psikyo: Strikers 1945 II
Raizing: Battle Garegga
Seibu Kaihatsu: Raiden Fighters Jet
Toaplan: Fire Shark

I don't really know too many other company's shmups too well :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Best Shmups by Each Company
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SNK: Prehistoric Isle ??? :shock:
SNK - NeoGeo: Shooting Collection ???? What the hell is that anyway ? :?:

Nobody ever played SNK here ?

Best SNK shmup is by far Last Resort (for me) and usually Blazing Star is mentionned as most popular. Viewpoint is made by SAMMY, otherwise I would have put it first choice.
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 Post subject: Re: Best Shmups by Each Company
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SNK - NeoGeo: Shooting Collection ???? What the hell is that anyway ? :?:


I meant Neo Geo Heroes: Ultimate Shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOFnplBRQbw


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 Post subject: Re: Best Shmups by Each Company
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1983parrothead wrote:
This isn't based on my opinion, it's what I think would win in most people's opinions.
Konami - XEXEX?

In terms of quality I think you're absolutely right. In terms of popularity though it would probably be one of the Gradius games.
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 Post subject: Re: Best Shmups by Each Company
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1983parrothead wrote:
-S.L- wrote:
SNK - NeoGeo: Shooting Collection ???? What the hell is that anyway ? :?:


I meant Neo Geo Heroes: Ultimate Shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOFnplBRQbw


I've been in the Neo Geo world for 25 years and I've never ever seen this before.

A shitty average compilation of a random mash up of whatever made by SNK PLAYMORE for PSP, released in 2010, being the best Shmups by SNK ? I'm shocked and this is insulting the Neo-Geo.

Let's be serious, you can't be for real right ? Did you come up with this yourself or you saw those results on a US forum dominated by douchebags owner of horrible Mame cabs ?

Yes i'm a bit harsh but this is disgraceful :evil:

PS: SNK Playmore ain't SNK anyway
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 Post subject: Re: Best Shmups by Each Company
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Blinge wrote:
1983parrothead wrote:

Konami - XEXEX?



I'd love to hear your rationale for this one..


I'm with 83 here if Xexex is the Japanese original.

The Japanese Xexex is great. Now the other territories' version is not so hot, because all the weapons were yanked except for Proton Laser and it has a health bar that can be drained almost instantly.
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I think I remember seeing MOSS listed as the developer for NeoGeo Heroes Ultimate Shooting. Game looks similar to Skystage, which is also included, so I wouldn't be surprised in the least.


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If the OP opens one more thread in shmups chat this week does he win a prize or something?
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 Post subject: Re: Best Shmups by Each Company
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There are too many manufacturers who only put out one or two shooters, so by default they're the best ones they did...

SemiCom - Wyvern Wings
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Metro - Sky Alert
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Yes, the " Attracted policing by established member " prize


Ha ha, we do enjoy handing those out. :)
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 Post subject: Re: Best Shmups by Each Company
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1983parrothead wrote:
SNK - NeoGeo: Shooting Collection

CA Productions (COMPUTER ARTIST PRODUCTION) - Either one of the ____ of Thunder titles

Success - Either Cotton Boomerang or one of the Psyvariar titles


- Neo Geo Heroes: Ultimate Shooting is based off of KOF Sky Stage, which was developed by Moss.

- CAP didn't develop either of the Thunder games; that can be verified on their website.

- The Psyvariar series was developed by Skonec, not Success.


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SNK: Prehistoric Isle ??? :shock:
SNK - NeoGeo: Shooting Collection ???? What the hell is that anyway ? :?:

Nobody ever played SNK here ?

Best SNK shmup is by far Last Resort (for me) and usually Blazing Star is mentionned as most popular. Viewpoint is made by SAMMY, otherwise I would have put it first choice.


You know, despite Prehistoric Isle and Last Resort having wildly different themes, they've got a similar gameplay approach. Last Resort does improve your craft's pod; it'd be a dream hack come true to swing the Prehistoric Isle one instantly into any position.

But that thematic difference makes the first game stand out more from the crowd. Last Resort's a competent take on the R-Type theme, but I see that kind of stuff every R-Type game anyway. Aren't too many dinosaur horis, especially ones that pull off the tribute to old dinos-as-monsters movies so well.

Even aside from the theme, I think Prehistoric Isle's stages are more exciting. Last Resort's have very nice backgrounds, but Prehistoric Isle's have multi-direction scrolling and usually two bosses each.

As for Blazing Star, that's an Aicom/Yumekobo game... the same guys who developed Prehistoric Isle 2, come to think of it.
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Sounds like most of you would judge by the specific developer on good games while judging by the publisher on bad games.


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1983parrothead wrote:
Sounds like most of you would judge by the specific developer on good games while judging by the publisher on bad games.


Where did this come from? I didn't get that impression at all. More like there is some confusion over who the developer is for some games.


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1983parrothead wrote:
This isn't based on my opinion, it's what I think would win in most people's opinions.

Cave - Mushihimesama Futari


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You're missing Triangle Service (of which I couldn't decide the best shmup, but going from the 10th Anniversary release DeltaZeal AKA G-Stream G2020).

Also, I dispute the Tecno Soft listing. TF V is good but I didn't think it was rated higher than even III let alone IV here.
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1983parrothead wrote:
This isn't based on my opinion, it's what I think would win in most people's opinions.


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Also, I dispute the Tecno Soft listing. TF V is good but I didn't think it was rated higher than even III let alone IV here.


Ya. TFIV's the big swingin' dick round these here parts. For good reason! Gradius Gaiden pwns XEXEX in the Konami consensus, too. >>FACT ZONE<<

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Yes :twisted:
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