Ketsui X and Daioujou Black Label X - Ports for Xbox 360

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:47 pm

EDIT: DDP DOJ BL 360 release date: 2008/12/25
http://www.amiami.com/shop/ProductInfo/ ... _id/105968

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The games will be ported to Xbox 360 in Japan by 5PB, a Japanese developer so far only known for dating sims.
It will be two separate releases, currently scheduled for summer 2008.

Because Microsoft refused to allow the games on XBLA, they will be sold on discs at full price.

Both games will feature normal and original game modes. There will be different display modes, more details (like filtering and tate) are unknown at this time.

So far all exclusive Japanese Xbox 360 games have been region-locked which could hint towards Ketsui and DOJ BL being region-locked, as well.
That would make owning a Japanese Xbox 360 necessary. Regarding this it should be noted that while Microsoft may fix broken import consoles in the USA, they officially refuse to do so in Europe.

Leroy · Post by **Leroy** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:16 pm

Repeating my post from the last thread:

I started a thread on the Aksys forums in a section they have setup to suggest Japanese games they could look into for US publishing. Registration is very easy and doesn't require an eMail verification so please take a few minutes to show your support for these games if you're really interested in them. $30 or $40 for one or both is a hell of a lot better than $60 or $70 a piece PLUS the cost of a Japanese Xbox 360.

http://aksysgames.com/forum/index.php?topic=150.0

There's apparently a similar thread at the Atlus forums.

Even if it may be futile, we should at least let these niche publishers know we want these games here.

Milkgoat · Post by **Milkgoat** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:35 pm

Ceph wrote:While Microsoft may fix broken import consoles in the USA, they refuse to do so in Europe.

They do fix them in the US?, Or is that just speculation?

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:21 pm

Strider77 wrote that his friend had a Japanese Xbox 360 repaired for free by Microsoft in the USA.

I called the European customer support of Microsoft today and was told that the official policy for all of Europe is to NOT repair imported consoles.

-Bridget- · Post by **-Bridget-** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:17 pm

Leroy wrote:Repeating my post from the last thread:

I started a thread on the Aksys forums in a section they have setup to suggest Japanese games they could look into for US publishing. Registration is very easy and doesn't require an eMail verification so please take a few minutes to show your support for these games if you're really interested in them. $30 or $40 for one or both is a hell of a lot better than $60 or $70 a piece PLUS the cost of a Japanese Xbox 360.

http://aksysgames.com/forum/index.php?topic=150.0

There's apparently a similar thread at the Atlus forums.

Even if it may be futile, we should at least let these niche publishers know we want these games here.

I love Aksys..... they brought over GG Accent Core (THANK YOU) and if I remember correctly are going to be responsible for Shikigami no Shiro 3 (OMIGOD). They certainly have my loyalty.....

And Atlus, while a bit screwy, always makes such great decisions on games to bring to us.

Personally, though, I'd rather not wait for either of them to do this.....

I'd be happy if they did it, but it'd take too long for my patience level.

No, no.... if those 2 games really do come out during summertime (AKA, dont get pushed back), then I'll just buy the damn Jap-version 360.

I figure.... for Ketsui in particular..... it's more than worth it, particularly for a Cave fanboy like me.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:39 am

Yes, definitely time for a minty fresh thread on this topic. Still great news but still gonna wait awhile for any possibility of PS3 port.

sideshow · Post by **sideshow** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:55 am

Seems the 360 is getting the most love with shmups this generation thus far. I mean Ketsui on the 360! Oh hell yes!

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:03 am

Not sure if it will happen but I'm certainly hoping for a PAL (or at least a region free) release. I've only played maybe 30 minutes or so of Ketsui and it was most certainly awesome and lived up to all the hype.

So what's the deal with Black Label anyway, how does it differ to regular DDPDOJ?

Grinning Cat · Post by **Grinning Cat** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:11 am

I'm not sure of the exact tweaks...but I was always under the impression that (in Black Label) it was easier to chain, but harder to stay alive.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:59 am

Strider77 wrote that his friend had a Japanese Xbox 360 repaired for free by Microsoft in the USA.

I called the European customer support of Microsoft today and was told that the official policy for all of Europe is to NOT repair imported consoles.

that's odd.... we are in the US so who knows. I was shocked that she got a NTSCJ console back and not a US replacement. but it's true.

hirounder · Post by **hirounder** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:52 am

theevilfunkster wrote:So what's the deal with Black Label anyway, how does it differ to regular DDPDOJ?

Read this http://www.world-of-arcades.net/Cave/Dd ... uJouBl.htm

Screens of both games now on Famitsu's site
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1214031_1407.html
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1213991_1407.html

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:27 am

That actually sounds like no tate: It says that for having the same feeling as in the arcade, a large TV screen is needed because the game is displayed in a window at the center of the screen.

The games will feature upgraded and original graphics (optional).

Interesting: It will be possible to save replays.

Necronopticous · Post by **Necronopticous** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:43 am

If these somehow get localized I will cry rainbow tears of happiness.

PROMETHEUS · Post by **PROMETHEUS** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:49 am

It's a little weird not to include tate but it's never a good idea to force players to rotate their monitors to play a game in good conditions anyway.

Necronopticous · Post by **Necronopticous** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:54 am

I'm pretty sure they'll have a TATE option. It's pretty standard at this point; even Triggerheart on XBLA has it. It would be really bizarre if they left it out of Ketsui or DOJ.

Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:29 pm

Necronopticous wrote:I'm pretty sure they'll have a TATE option. It's pretty standard at this point; even Triggerheart on XBLA has it. It would be really bizarre if they left it out of Ketsui or DOJ.

Exactly. Triggerheart, Ikaruga (confirmed by menu screenshots), Raiden IV (confirmed by trailer) all have or will have tate. I don't see any reason why these two should come without.

Erinu · Post by **Erinu** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:24 pm

Because Cave has objected to budget releases in the past

Mushihimesama?

Grinning Cat · Post by **Grinning Cat** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:52 pm

Yes, but it wasn't a budget release from the outset.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:09 pm

One would think that they would be a bit more lax for releases of DOJ and Ketsui considering both games are 6 years old. That's what gets my hope up for an Live Arcade release.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:44 pm

hirounder wrote:Screens of both games now on Famitsu's site
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1214031_1407.html
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1213991_1407.html

Do these pages provide any hints about whether these will be disc releases? They mention XBox Live a few times.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:54 pm

professor ganson wrote:
hirounder wrote:Screens of both games now on Famitsu's site
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1214031_1407.html
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1213991_1407.html
Do these pages provide any hints about whether these will be disc releases? They mention XBox Live a few times.

They only say that you'll be able to compete against other players by posting your scores online via Xbox Live. The articles don't mention the games being XBLA-downloads at all; I think it's save to assume they'll be sold on discs.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:12 pm

Thanks, Ceph. I'm not sure DOJ BL is sufficiently different for me to get excited about it, but I am prepared to take the risks of importing a 360 to play Ketsui. Shiki 3 and Raiden Fighters Aces are icing on the cake.

OdiousTrident · Post by **OdiousTrident** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:23 pm

Email address for 5pb? Does anyone have it?

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:36 am

Since 5pb is a Japanese company, you can forget about sending them English emails...

Anyway, their email is support_5gk@5pb.jp
Here's their website: http://www.5pb.jp/games/

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:43 am

Maybe we should get someone who can read/write Japanese to compose a polite email which could be sent? With them being such a small company there's probably more chance of it being read by someone who can do something about the situation.

lawnspic · Post by **lawnspic** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:21 am

Nice to hear, but im waiting to see what EOJ and GP have to say about this. Being such Cave nuts i want to see there shrewed input on 360 ports of some of their most beloved games, and quite frankly im surprised this thread is not 3 pages by now considering this is a big deal IMO since the Ps2 port was a wash

jp · Post by jp » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:55 am

lawnspic wrote:Nice to hear, but im waiting to see what EOJ and GP have to say about this. Being such Cave nuts i want to see there shrewed input on 360 ports of some of their most beloved games, and quite frankly im surprised this thread is not 3 pages by now considering this is a big deal IMO since the Ps2 port was a wash

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=18969

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:04 am

lawnspic wrote:Nice to hear, but im waiting to see what EOJ and GP have to say about this. Being such Cave nuts i want to see there shrewed input on 360 ports of some of their most beloved games, and quite frankly im surprised this thread is not 3 pages by now considering this is a big deal IMO since the Ps2 port was a wash

We've all voiced our opinions in the thread that redefined "derailed". My summed up view is that it's good (sort of) for people that aren't big enough suckers to shell out for the boards. Then again, I got my Ketsui board for like $300, so I'm not too bothered. Games are pretty much the worst investment I can think of. I never buy games as an investment. The only times I buy them out of speculation is when I think they might be harder to find/more expensive when I do want to play them.

There's no mention of TATE thus far, nor any type of low res simulation (fake scanlines) which would kill the ports for me. There are replays, but no mention of practice mode or an arrange mode.... an arrange would probably make me buy them, as I'm debating getting a 360 to play my 2 Xbox games I like.

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:00 am

this is really good news, in contrast to no ketsui port ever.
The sense that it will be a disc release scares me, it seems like a better scenerio for profits if the games were on xblive, of course it would be a lower price, but it would skip out on any manufacturing costs, and it could be released in all territories with little localization or advertisement... but a retail disc version only in Japan... i dunno.
With xblive it is a lot easier for purchases that you wouldn't usually make, when in a store more consideration goes into picking up a game you may not have known about and walking off with it to purchase. And with Ikaruga coming out, the talk of that alone could cause interest in purchasing the next "hardcore" thing, if a cave game was on live...

Erinu · Post by **Erinu** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:14 am

kemical wrote:And with Ikaruga coming out, the talk of that alone could cause interest in purchasing the next "hardcore" thing, if a cave game was on live...

These games aren't being released on Xbox Live. Deal with it.

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