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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Ticker: What are you playing RIGHT NOW?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:44 pm 


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I hit 1.6 billion in Rolling Gunner and cleared the game. At least, I thought I had cleared the game, when suddenly the TLB shows up for the first time in Original difficulty and curbstomps me with my limited resources (1 life, 1 bomb left).

I've been informed by moglar that the TLB appears in Original if rank is at 16 or higher when you beat the final boss. Oops.

So now I'm left feeling unsatisfied unless I make a push to kill the TLB. I gotta get to the final boss with way more resources in stock.
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Ticker: What are you playing RIGHT NOW?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:13 pm 


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Don't feel down; I got to the TLB on Casual yesterday and proceeded to blow it.

You must get a LOT more points in original, because my TLB score is only 130 million... Either I suck at reading numbers, I am playing the game horribly wrong in terms of medal collection, or Casual gives you far less in terms of score.

Anyhow, I just made a score thread, so feel free to contribute!
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Ticker: What are you playing RIGHT NOW?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:34 pm 


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Novice and Casual do not have the Rank meter, and so score way less. The only thing that affects medal value is the size of them when you collect them.

Original and Expert have a smaller number under the Power Up meter that affects medal value (goes up to 10000 per medal in Power Up, doubled when in Limiter Release). All score is then further multiplied by Rank bonus (the multiplier value shown beneath your current Rank). To score well, you want to crank the Rank as high as possible and score lots of big cash-ins using your Power Up/hyper/whatever it's called. Expert scores more due to more bullets to cancel to medals which then drives rank up faster.

My best Casual clear is only slightly higher in score than my best Novice clear. I'd estimate at most you could get 350 Million - 400 Million in the mode with insane amounts of pointblanking assuming you're some kind of robot that can stay in front of bosses constantly. My current best for Casual is 220 million I think? Original can probably score well over 3 billion potentially assuming a perfect no-miss, no-bomb run with tons of cancelling or something. The impact the multiplier bonus you get from Rank is substantial and crucial to high scoring.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:48 pm 


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Ah, I wasn't sure if there was still a rank meter in those modes (I was trying to find them while in play, but couldn't). That would make sense especially if the rank adds a multiplier to the proceedings. IIRC my best Original score (to stage 3) was already 250 million.
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Ticker: What are you playing RIGHT NOW?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:50 pm 


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Yeah, there's no rank meter as far as scoring goes, and as far as I can tell there's no "hidden" rank mechanic either; difficulty in Novice and Casual is same all throughout the game (with temporary increases in difficulty when in Power Up and Limiter Release).

Your score thread appears to have a typo? I was told it's Rank 16 is the requirement for the TLB, not Rank 15, but I've never seen what happens if you clear the final boss with exactly Rank 15 so I could be wrong.
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Ticker: What are you playing RIGHT NOW?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:15 pm 


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I was going off of discussions in the various topics that seemed to mention rank 15 (guigui I believe). I guess I'll believe moglar on this and change it until shown otherwise.
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i randomly got back into a Seibu wave again and started re-playing Raiden Fighters 1, 2, and Jet interchangably. god, how did i forget how fucking amazing Raiden Fighters Jet is? :shock:
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Still playing DOJ WL. I also randomly booted up some Gradius and got to the third stage before dying, then I just gave up.


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At work, during my downtime and on breaks, I am making my way through Aka to Blue. Touch controls are making me very aware of how bad I move on my stick.

At home, Graze Counter and Ketsui.

Rolling Gunner and TwinBee on the switch if I boot it up.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:49 am 


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Trying to get a shit clear of Mamoru-kun TLB, but I'm getting a bit frustrated at the TLBs second attack. I can't really get down a clean strategy for it; the purple orbs seem really random sometimes. 99% I die from an orb I couldn't even see zooming past me from off screen and killing me instantly. Does anyone have a clean strategy for this?

(This game is great though seriously.)
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Messing with In The Hunt, despite being a little unsure as to whether I actually like it or not. It's even more insanely detailed than Metal Slug, but sometimes to the detriment of visibility. Quirky little thing. I'd rather have a Mr Heli release though.

And still playing Gridrunner on PS4. It's a crying shame that more people aren't.
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Not totally sure if its officially considered a shmup (Im pretty new around here) but I have been really into Metal Slug 1 lately. Its one of my favorite game series of all time, and Ive been trying to really master them lately. Been playing the first one on MAME. I would love to get my hands on a proper NEOGEO style joystick setup for my PC


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I've been going all in on Truxton II lately. Last night, I reached stage 5, which is arguably the hardest stage in the game, so I'll be working on that for a while before I attempt it again. I'm going for that clear. I want to become a 達人王.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:31 pm 


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Just started my serious first 1CC of Crimzon Clover WORLD IGNITION. I've been playing shumps since I remember but never tried to go for 1CCs or Highscores since I didn't have anyone to compete with. Everything changed at the beginning of this year, when I found out about the shumps forum/online rankings.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:45 pm 


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Finally managed to try doing some runs in Mushihimesama Original again, but I'm just giving up on improving my result at this point. It's deceptively tough in a really stupid way. Despite doing great with moderate savestate practice and bombing any doubtful patterns, I just keep clipping random bullets all over the game. This feels very annoying and kills any joy I had while playing this mode. Guess I'm done with it, after all.

But I'm not giving up on the game as a whole. Maniac having more bullets and slower patterns should make routing more rigid and obvious. I'll try it once I get an Espgaluda 1cc.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Ticker: What are you playing RIGHT NOW?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:46 am 



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CyberAngel wrote:
Maniac having more bullets and slower patterns should make routing more rigid and obvious.


This is something I find really interesting about Mushi Original and Maniac: survival-wise, the latter doesn't feel like it's simply a harder Original in a linear or uncomplicated way (unless Maniac's endgame is a sudden difficulty spike). Like, I still have more difficulty with some boss patterns on Original than their Maniac variants, mainly because I find the Maniac patters easier to read. The slowdown helps as well. And my progress with both has always been more or less equal (I can consistently get to stage 4 in both; maybe I should make one last push on the game and finally nab a Cave 1cc or two...).


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