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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:06 pm 



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To Far Away Times wrote:
I love the 8-BitDo controllers. I think they're honestly better than the controllers they're imitating. The SNES pad feels how I remember it feeling with my rose tinted glasses, but it's actually better than the real thing side by side.


No way. Absolutely no way. I agree that their effort in producing something comparable is apparent, but they do not rise above the originals. Particularly the SNES pads, which were/are notorious for firing inaccurate Dpad inputs all over the place. They try, and they deserve credit for raising expectations of third-party imitations, but some of the praise they get is way over the top.

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I just found that the same company sells a kit to convert your real Saturn pads to USB wireless so I'm looking forward to going that route at some point.
https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-mod-kit-for-original-sega-saturn-controller


Be aware all their DIY kits are Bluetooth and really not fast enough for twitch-type gaming. I continue to hope they'll do a 2.4 GHz DIY line - it's not likely - but until they do I think going that route would be a mistake.


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:03 am 


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bigbadboaz wrote:
No way. Absolutely no way. I agree that their effort in producing something comparable is apparent, but they do not rise above the originals. Particularly the SNES pads, which were/are notorious for firing inaccurate Dpad inputs all over the place. They try, and they deserve credit for raising expectations of third-party imitations, but some of the praise they get is way over the top.


At least their newer SNES style pads improved. I definitely don't have the input issue with the 2.4G versions of the SN30s for SNES and SNES mini/Wii or the newer Pros. The older SN30 pro actually had the opposite issue, an overly tight d-pad, though it loosened up a bit. I only had the overly sensitive inputs with the BT SN30 models that came with the SNES BT dongles. I also like the Genesis pads quite a bit, though I prefer the feel of the Joyzz, the SJ-6000, and the "Made in Japan" MK-1653. They definitely don't have a slightly wobbly dpad like some of the "Made in Malaysia" pads. 8bitdo M30 with the Genesis/MD dongle is definitely my go to choice for the Mega SG, thanks to the menu button.


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:22 am 


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m.sniffles.esq wrote:
Well, the Switch has yet to have anything as good as RoLW alone...


I loved that game to death and have not a single bad word to say about it, but Three Houses got 300 hours of my life and I'd go back for more if they released another DLC pack tomorrow. That game is an all-timer, really, really compelling.


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:30 am 


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I loved that game to death and have not a single bad word to say about it, but Three Houses got 300 hours of my life and I'd go back for more if they released another DLC pack tomorrow. That game is an all-timer, really, really compelling.

Not to derail the thread but: I really have to give Three Houses another look. I took it out from the library coincidently at exactly the same time they released the Langrisser re-whatevers. First off, the games are VERY similar. Second, Langrisser ended up pulling me in much more. It was just quicker to get to the meat of things, while Three Houses sort of took it's time (an understatement). But I always meant to give Three Houses another look whenever I wasn't playing something so similar (which is probably going to be awhile as I'm currently going through Wasteland 3 and Disgaea 6 is in the offing)


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:19 pm 


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m.sniffles.esq wrote:
I loved that game to death and have not a single bad word to say about it, but Three Houses got 300 hours of my life and I'd go back for more if they released another DLC pack tomorrow. That game is an all-timer, really, really compelling.

Not to derail the thread but: I really have to give Three Houses another look. I took it out from the library coincidently at exactly the same time they released the Langrisser re-whatevers. First off, the games are VERY similar. Second, Langrisser ended up pulling me in much more. It was just quicker to get to the meat of things, while Three Houses sort of took it's time (an understatement). But I always meant to give Three Houses another look whenever I wasn't playing something so similar (which is probably going to be awhile as I'm currently going through Wasteland 3 and Disgaea 6 is in the offing)


It might take a while to pull you in - it starts off with some very handhold-y tutorial maps, and the hub of the monastery is a colossal and overwhelming space to throw you into at first. The opening few hours are also very happy-go-lucky-elite-high-school anime. But once you pass a certain point, things go in some very surprising directions, and piecing together everything through all three story routes becomes thoroughly engrossing. I also recommend playing on the hardest difficulty you can access if you're familiar with the genre. They did a good job scaling the difficulty levels, but normal is pretty easy to steamroll past a certain point if you know what you're doing.


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:43 pm 


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Kiken wrote:
I downloaded it during my lunch break and played a quick Arcade Mode Maniac credit. This release is very responsive (like Ikaruga and Cotton Reboot), so somewhere around a 3-frame delay. To me, this feels tighter than the M2 ESPRa.De. Psy release on Switch.


I was pleasantly surprised at how responsive the controls feel with this being on the Switch. I heard Cotton Reboot was similar but I am waiting for the western eShop release before getting that.

Honestly, if all of the shmups on Switch were as responsive as this Mushi port my Switch library would be at least double what it is now. I have this on PC as well as that is my usual go-to if the game is available, and although I can tell a slight difference in input lag between the two ports (most likely due to the benefit of G-Sync on PC) it's nowhere near bad enough to hinder the fun this game has to offer on Switch.

I know this specific port looks to be a carry over from the Steam version, but between this and Cotton it is making me wonder if developers are finally figuring out how to consistently get the response times down on their Switch games.

Definitely looking forward to DDP Res and Esp 2.


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:28 pm 



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Still wondering when Mushi will return to the European Eshop.. its been a while now :(


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:33 pm 



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Did they confirm that it was removed due to a ratings issue? I remember some indie game having similar issue and it took weeks to resolve it, the eShop pipeline for updates is apparently quite horrible


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:15 pm 



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Tachikomatic wrote:
Still wondering when Mushi will return to the European Eshop.. its been a while now :(


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The final confirmation is currently underway. We think we can resume without too much trouble.
Jul 6, 2021

https://twitter.com/LiveWire_pr/status/ ... 0950724610


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:18 pm 



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:D

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The packaged version is still under consideration, but we will do our best.

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We want to do it.

https://twitter.com/UltraBosh64/status/ ... 2590227466


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:09 am 



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CRP wrote:
:D

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The packaged version is still under consideration, but we will do our best.

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We want to do it.

https://twitter.com/UltraBosh64/status/ ... 2590227466


Awesome :)
Also a packaged version would be so daaamn neat :D


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:06 am 



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Tachikomatic wrote:
Still wondering when Mushi will return to the European Eshop.. its been a while now :(
It's winding me up now lol


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:47 am 


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it seems it´s back now in the European E-Shop, it also got a patch.


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:12 pm 



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porchka66 wrote:
it seems it´s back now in the European E-Shop, it also got a patch.



Thanks I've been waiting for it to return. Got it this evening.


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 Post subject: Re: Mushi, DDP Res, Esp 2 for Switch
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:54 am 


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I ended up grabbing the Extremerate joycon shell with the dpad to replace the dented up shell on one of my older joycons, and I'm really happy with it. It's not a "real" dpad - no rocker, possible to press opposite directions at the same time. But it *feels* a lot better than using the four butons. I'm playing a lot more comfortably on this in shmups, and finding it a lot easier to do complex inputs in stuff like fighting games too.

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