2P FTW!!! (da thread about "cheats")

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:23 am

Ok. Lets make list of all shmups, where 2P side > 1P side.

Starto!

XII Stag - 2P ship move faster.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:36 am

Trizeal - 2P ship moves faster, but in exchange the weapons are slightly less comfortable to use (thinner laser, different spread shot).

Gekirindan - game becomes easier if you play on the 2P side.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:54 am

ESPrade, 2P side has different multiplier/countdown mechanics, leads to higher scores (but it's all from the last stage, essentially)

Chi_Ryu · Post by **Chi_Ryu** » Thu May 29, 2008 11:07 am

Ibara 2P is slower but with a more powerful shot. For me, that means 2P > 1P.

j^aws · Post by **j^aws** » Thu May 29, 2008 11:27 am

1P + 2P = FTW!!! aka R3: DM.

elfhentaifan · Post by **elfhentaifan** » Thu May 29, 2008 11:28 am

ikarugas 2Player ship ginkei looks much cooler than the 1p ship

worstplayer · Post by **worstplayer** » Thu May 29, 2008 11:43 am

Battle Bakraid - enemy bullets are blue when playing as 2P

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Thu May 29, 2008 11:51 am

Dodonpachi calculates the star bonus properly for the 2P side.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Thu May 29, 2008 12:07 pm

I wouldn't call them cheats, just differences between choosing 1 or 2P sides.

Twin Cobra (PCB) - 2P side has easier ST2 Boss firing patterns.

Raiden DX (and I think 1 & II) - 2P ship is faster.

Fire Shark (PCB) - 2P side is a bit easier (less power ups tho..)

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Thu May 29, 2008 12:11 pm

Raiden DX (and I think 1 & II) - 2P ship is faster

Isn't the Blue 2p ship faster left and right, while the red ship is faster up and down? I thought that's what I read somewhere.

Blue ship is better either way

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Thu May 29, 2008 1:33 pm

supreme cheat: in Pop'n Twinbee there's a "couple" option: by selecting it the enemies will focus their attack on 1P.

The ship pods behave different too.

maxi · Post by **maxi** » Thu May 29, 2008 2:55 pm

I prefer the 2nd player chars on the frist Sonic Wings (Mao Mao > all).

Post by **Dave_K.** » Thu May 29, 2008 3:49 pm

DEL wrote: Raiden DX (and I think 1 & II) - 2P ship is faster.

I've herd about this, about one ship having faster vertical movment, and another having faster horizontal movement, but when I test this controlling both ships at the same time, they have exactly the same speed. Maybe its a single player only thing?

For Radien (not sure of DX) the rank is kept much lower when playing as the 2P ship.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Thu May 29, 2008 3:55 pm

Playing as P2 in DoDonPachi, the stars you collect are added to the previous level if you do not die (otherwise they are reset)l. This can net you up to something like 13M? extra points if you can nomiss both loops, and is why ZBL-NAI switched to using player two after his first gamest video as P1.

nimitz · Post by **nimitz** » Thu May 29, 2008 4:52 pm

Thunder Dragon 2 has a much faster and cooler 2 player ship.

The player one ship is essentially a slow ship with spread shot.

The 2nd player is a fast ship with straight shot.

Many games have different ships as players 2 (that are more than simple palette switch) but that usually don't affect the gameplay, still fun to try though. Examples: The parodius games and 1944: The Loop master.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:37 pm

nimitz beats me to the punch. I was going to mention Thunder Dragon 2, but I must add this:

I was unsuccessful triggering the before-stage bonuses in TD2 with the P2 plane. Perhaps it's because I'm used to the P1 plane, but the P2 plane has lots of speed but little power. That seems to translate into needing to zip back and forth to get that bonus, where it was already pretty difficult (especially without using bombs).

I also think - I'm not sure since it's been a while - that its bomb is different, not in a good way...but I'd check that out before saying it as gospel.