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 Post subject: RGB mods
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:16 am 



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I recently picked up 2 favorites; a model 1 Intellivision and an Atari 7800. I have a PVM20L5 that I play all my other consoles on and I'd like to mod these as well. I know there are plenty composite and S-video mods out there but am having trouble tracking down RGB mods. I've used Voultar's boards on all my modded systems and love them. Could anyone point me in the right direction if there is someone currently producing similar boards for these consoles?


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 Post subject: Re: RGB mods
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:58 pm 



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Tracked down the Intellivision mod. Still looking for an Atari 7800 solution if one exists.


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 Post subject: Re: RGB mods
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:37 pm 



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jwo825 wrote:
Tracked down the Intellivision mod. Still looking for an Atari 7800 solution if one exists.


I have a french Atari 7800 with the native RGB output. By native I mean it converts the composite signal into RGB; so its composite quality over RGB.

Otherwise the best mod I've seen so far is a s-video mod by a guy named Bryan over on the atariage forums. I'm still hoping Tim will create a true RGB board.


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 Post subject: Re: RGB mods
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:45 pm 



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citrus3000psi wrote:
jwo825 wrote:
Tracked down the Intellivision mod. Still looking for an Atari 7800 solution if one exists.


I have a french Atari 7800 with the native RGB output. By native I mean it converts the composite signal into RGB; so its composite quality over RGB.

Otherwise the best mod I've seen so far is a s-video mod by a guy named Bryan over on the atariage forums. I'm still hoping Tim will create a true RGB board.


Yeah, I've seen the s-video mods. I'm going to hold out doing that for a while as I really want everything I have in RGB. And the French model is not attractive at all, I would just as soon continue playing with a crappy picture on my little CRT than spend the money to mod and have crappy picture on the PVM.


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 Post subject: Re: RGB mods
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:54 pm 


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It'll have to be a mod that taps the digital signals and recreates RGB, like Tim's boards, yeah. I'd assume for Tim it's based on what he has and wants to do, as in he wanted RGB for his NES or 2600 and made a board, then modified it and sold it. I don't know how big the crowd is for 7600's, so it might be a bit.


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 Post subject: Re: RGB mods
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:06 pm 



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bobrocks95 wrote:
It'll have to be a mod that taps the digital signals and recreates RGB, like Tim's boards, yeah. I'd assume for Tim it's based on what he has and wants to do, as in he wanted RGB for his NES or 2600 and made a board, then modified it and sold it. I don't know how big the crowd is for 7600's, so it might be a bit.


Tell him I'll buy him a 7800 if that's the motivation he needs to design it. lol


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 Post subject: Re: RGB mods
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:38 pm 


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Well he made the boards for the 2600 and I'm not sure how many people bought them, in comparison to the others. I've never seen anyone discuss it anyways. Btw- composite on a pvm 20l5 looks very good, so don't let it stop you from playing.


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 Post subject: Re: RGB mods
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:15 pm 



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tjstogy wrote:
Well he made the boards for the 2600 and I'm not sure how many people bought them, in comparison to the others. I've never seen anyone discuss it anyways. Btw- composite on a pvm 20l5 looks very good, so don't let it stop you from playing.


If anything, I'll s-video mod it if I can't find an RGB solution within a reasonable time. I actually have Tim's NESRGB board and installed it so I have composite, s-video and RGB. s-video blows composite out of the water in terms of clarity and vividness of color. RGB is better than s-video, but not by as large a margin as s-video over composite. The main reason I'd like to find an RGB solution is so I can run everything through one switch. I also have all my audio going through a receiver so consolidating will help with cable management as well. It's still a nightmare, but every bit helps!


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 Post subject: Re: RGB mods
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:27 am 



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tjstogy wrote:
Well he made the boards for the 2600 and I'm not sure how many people bought them, in comparison to the others. I've never seen anyone discuss it anyways. Btw- composite on a pvm 20l5 looks very good, so don't let it stop you from playing.


I've done many more nesrgb installs but surprisingly a handfull of 2600 rgb installs as well. The quality is as mind blowing as nesrgb!


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 Post subject: Re: RGB mods
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:52 pm 



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leonk wrote:
tjstogy wrote:
Well he made the boards for the 2600 and I'm not sure how many people bought them, in comparison to the others. I've never seen anyone discuss it anyways. Btw- composite on a pvm 20l5 looks very good, so don't let it stop you from playing.


I've done many more nesrgb installs but surprisingly a handfull of 2600 rgb installs as well. The quality is as mind blowing as nesrgb!


I have done the NES RGB mod as well. Very well done. That's why I'm hoping a 7800 board eventually gets made.


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 Post subject: Re: RGB mods
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:16 pm 


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Leon-- that's good to hear. Wish more people would talk about it, cause it's like the standard definition of a retro console. Do you install them with the button on the controller that resets the console? Ya know, for use with the harmony.

leonk wrote:
tjstogy wrote:
Well he made the boards for the 2600 and I'm not sure how many people bought them, in comparison to the others. I've never seen anyone discuss it anyways. Btw- composite on a pvm 20l5 looks very good, so don't let it stop you from playing.


I've done many more nesrgb installs but surprisingly a handfull of 2600 rgb installs as well. The quality is as mind blowing as nesrgb!


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 Post subject: Re: RGB mods
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:22 pm 



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I emailed Tim this morning and he got back to me really quickly. He said that the 7800 is a system he is planning to make an RGB board for. He stated he's about 90% sure he can do it and would like to get to it by the end of the year but couldn't make any promises on that. So there is hope!


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 Post subject: Re: RGB mods
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:34 pm 



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I never had a customer ask me for the controller mod for 2600. It's a novilty more than anything else.

I typically install RGB, audio and upon request svideo. Palette button is so tiny I also add it.


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