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 Post subject: Blade Runner 2049
PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:15 pm 


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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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Sorry wrong film.


PS: still want to see it though. from the little we see at least they've kept the dystopian~cyberpunk L.A, no shiny shit.
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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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PS: still want to see it though. from the little we see at least they've kept the dystopian~cyberpunk L.A, no shiny shit.


And Korea seems to have eclipsed Japan as the major influence in the west... at least from one scene. Not inaccurate, but I wonder why (other than dozens of social reasons) why they didn't go with China.
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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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Tyrell Corporation report 1982b/2049;

Viogt-Kampff machine confirms this to be an obvious replicant due to gross display of creative bankruptcy.

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why they didn't go with China.

Too obvious / too close to our reality ?
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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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Xyga wrote:
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why they didn't go with China.

Too obvious / too close to our reality ?


Like Japan in the 80's... ?
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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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Looks interesting, looks like it could also go in a million different directions, but at least they've kept the same style as the original in the one city portion of the teaser.
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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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Probably because they expect China to be a big overseas market; a bunch of other recent films have made various edits for similar reasons.
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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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My cyberpunk boner rages again.

It's a little uncanny seeing Ford constantly reprise his older roles. I think more popular actors are already expecting having to do the same characters in future reboots and sequels.
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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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Um... truth be told I found this trailer completely underwhelming.

What's more it looks like they're going with the idea that Deckard is a replicant which in my opinion ruins the original film.


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What's more it looks like they're going with the idea that Deckard is a replicant which in my opinion ruins the original film.

But that would be in line with what Scott always wanted, the director's cut and final cut are 'canon'.
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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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Xyga wrote:
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What's more it looks like they're going with the idea that Deckard is a replicant which in my opinion ruins the original film.

But that would be in line with what Scott always wanted, the director's cut and final cut are 'canon'.


Yeah, tell that to George Lucas. The writer matters more than the director.

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Why on Earth would it matter that Batty proved his moral superiority to Deckard if Deckard was just another robot?

So what if Deckard was finally convinced he was done with Blade Running if another Deckard can be popped out of the factory tomorrow?


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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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Audio still gives me an instaboner, but I'm not convinced by the footage.
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I think I agree with my father that this'd be better without Harrison Ford. Cautiously optimistic, though.
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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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Probably because they expect China to be a big overseas market; a bunch of other recent films have made various edits for similar reasons.


So they'd favor Korea(n homages over Chinese)?

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Yeah, tell that to George Lucas. The writer matters more than the director.


I only read the book once, and ages ago, but I always imaged this more as a "based [somewhat loosely] on" rather than an adaptation. I know there are lots of dick fans here, so that might get me on the wrong end of their stick.

I would never take anything George Lucas says as anything more than a joke though.

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Audio still gives me an instaboner, but I'm not convinced by the footage.


Very important, and I'm glad it's at the very least showing promise.
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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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love the fact that we didn't see much in the trailer.

That's how they should all be instead of showing us the entire movie ...


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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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love the fact that we didn't see much in the trailer.

That's how they should all be instead of showing us the entire movie ...


Well, that was just a teaser. 10 more months to fuck that up. ;)

I remember the worst offender in recent memory was the Poltergeist remake. Why they remade it is beyond anyone, but they basically summed up the whole thing in 2 minutes. Hilarious.
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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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Tyrell Corporation report 1982b/2049;

Viogt-Kampff machine confirms this to be an obvious replicant due to gross display of creative bankruptcy.

End of report.


Agree. Being one of my favorites of all time, I think it doesn't need a sequel. I guess I will be seeing it once it gets a home release though.


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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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Looks interesting to me, Ryan Gosling has been doing some really cool shit recently. Feel kind of bad for Harrison Ford though, he could do with some new material. He's probably okay with his millions of dollars though.
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Just watched it, like the music.
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 Post subject: Re: Blade Runner 2049
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The music made me rage. They will always find a way to shove that dub step crap into anything. Always.


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The music made me rage. They will always find a way to shove that dub step crap into anything. Always.

Those are synths, like in the original.
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So they'd favor Korea(n homages over Chinese)?

More along the lines of avoiding anything Chinese audiences/government might find offensive or "negative" in some way; not sure if the stuff from the trailer might have qualified had it gone in that direction, but I'd guess (assuming that this did in fact influence said direction at all) they'd be erring on the side of caution to make sure they have access to that paying audience.
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One day Korean culture will devour all the other, you'll see.

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The music made me rage. They will always find a way to shove that dub step crap into anything. Always.

Those are synths, like in the original.


It is the original theme re-edited to sound like trailer dub step cancer.


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Yeah, tell that to George Lucas. The writer matters more than the director.


I only read the book once, and ages ago, but I always imaged this more as a "based [somewhat loosely] on" rather than an adaptation. I know there are lots of dick fans here, so that might get me on the wrong end of their stick.


I meant screenwriter.

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The music made me rage. They will always find a way to shove that dub step crap into anything. Always.

Those are synths, like in the original.


It is the original theme re-edited to sound like trailer dub step cancer.


A harsher synth does not dubstep make.

But it would be fucking awesome if they did put dubstep into the trailer. For once I'd watch the reaction videos. Leave the whole teaser exactly as is and you watch the orgasmic glee grow on the youtuber's face, then right at the end make the soundtrack go WUB-WUB-WUB and switch to a montage of all their faces dropping in slow motion to Barber's Adagio for Strings.


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Opus131 wrote:
The music made me rage. They will always find a way to shove that dub step crap into anything. Always.


You've managed to top even your own stupidity.
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One day Korean culture will devour all the other, you'll see.

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Korea has, as Gaijin Punch I think alluded to in above post, eclipsed Japan in the last decade at least. Not just technologically, but culturally imo.
I really wish I had studied Korean instead of trying to study Japanese in grade school/College and going off to live for my senior year of high school in Japan around the year or two before the Egret II came out...

Actually, no, at least the part about living in Japan at the time I did as these were very golden years for Japan: The PC Engine was still trying to exist with its Arcade Card despite Saturn, PS1, NeoGeoCD and the Bandai shitty game console system. Akira Kurosawa I think just died prior? Juzo Itami was killed by Yakuza/thrown off his sky-rise apartment (public thought suicide because of forced suicide note), Aum Shinrikyo gassed the subway in Tokyo day I decided not to go there as planned. Kobe earthquake happened the day I didn't go there as planned w/ girlfriend Yuki/10 yrs older than me/milf... Toshiro Mifune was still alive, living in his sky-rise... Akihabura, arcades, game shops, red light district were a site to see. So many memories of drunkenness and skipping school everyday wearing Japanese school uniform with school sandals as I roamed somewhat more rural, Odawara and Hakone, chain smoking... lonely, but not lonely all the same... Feeding the local swans at Odawara Castle from my bento w/ my chopsticks and then taking a bite myself with same chopsticks.

Sorry to go off topic, but my point is the golden age pertaining to Japan is long over. Japan is boring. Korea has wonderful cinema and great dramas being made constantly (as well as a lot of trash too).
We are in a golden age of South Korea. Korea has found its soul, its people have soul. Japanese have lost their ways. They are lost as a culture. Boring.

Blade Runner 2049 is on point, not just about Korea. Audio, Cinematography, the ambience and mood revealed in the trailer, I couldn't be happier. And Ryan Gosling=it's going to be the best!
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Korea has, as Gaijin Punch I think alluded to in above post, eclipsed Japan in the last decade at least. Not just technologically, but culturally imo.


This part I would argue against. Korea has been killing it in cinema, but Japan has all of a sudden become far more accessible than it was before. The charm in Japan not changing in the last 30 years seems to be drawing people in. They've hit record high tourist numbers, and they continue to grow. So while Japan's economy goes down the shitter, it's street cred due to the likes of Anthony Bourdain, Girls, and the anime industry goes up.

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Sorry to go off topic, but my point is the golden age pertaining to Japan is long over. Japan is boring.


This again, I would argue against. If you want to focus on games and anime, the things that likely drew a lot of people here in, sure -- it's done. So little creative coming out of it, it's not worth bothering in many ways. However, life in Tokyo, is far from boring, and it is still the quirkiest place in the free world. There's never nothing to do. I look now and realize that as a language alone, it's not the best in the world to have. I ask myself constantly if my life would be better had I learned Mandarin or Korean. Answer: Fuck no (and that's not even taking into account of my kid). The best time of my life was my first year in Japan (1998) and I wouldn't change that for anything. Had some of my worst years there, too. However, it's a great place. I will likely retire there. That's a ways down the road, but I think by then I'll be over the problems that it has.
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