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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:03 pm 


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http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/01/hackers-unlock-nes-classic-upload-new-games-via-usb-cable/
Not quite easy to do, but for the lucky few who were able to find and buy one...


Might as well just get a cheap Android mini PC and load it up with emulators and ROMs/ISOs on a MicroSD card if you're going to go that far ..


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:12 pm 


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Udderdude wrote:
soprano1 wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/01/hackers-unlock-nes-classic-upload-new-games-via-usb-cable/
Not quite easy to do, but for the lucky few who were able to find and buy one...


Might as well just get a cheap Android mini PC and load it up with emulators and ROMs/ISOs on a MicroSD card if you're going to go that far ..

Sure, but that's not what people who bought/want to buy this product really want. They want to have a bigger library on this thing.
I'm content with Nestopia, or even my PSP sometimes, personally.
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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:09 pm 



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Nitpicking of the sound emulation from NESdev:

https://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15073

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I have had a chance to watch some Youtube videos posted in the past 24 hours showcasing the NES Classic Edition and they confirmed what I had suspected from the last crop of Nintendo's videos, the noise channel emulation of the NES Classic Edition is noticeably off. Many sound effects just sound wrong. I commented on it on NintendoAge some time ago, but no one else has. I did not want to cause too much of a fuss, but the reviewers are now doing unboxings. A casual player may not notice the inaccuracy, but once you do an A to B comparison, you cannot unhear it. Examples of wrong sound effects include :

Some percussion notes is off in SMB2, Metroid, Castlevania, Zelda 2 and Mega Man 2
Balloon popping sound in Balloon Fight
Enemy popping sound and fire power in Kirby's Adventure
Enemy defeat sound in StarTropics
Thunderclaps and machine gun fire in Super C
Dodging and gloves hitting gloves in Punch Out
Hitting the candles and enemies and breakable blocks with the whip and landing in a crouch in Castlevania, also the holy water fire.
The crushers in Metal Man's stage (not positive about this one) and Metal Man's metal blades in the boss battle
Enemy defeat sound in Ninja Gaiden, gun sound when Irene shoots Ryu, windmill slash
Block breaking in SMB3
Dialogue text in Zelda 2

I could go on and on, every game seems to suffer from the issue to some extent. The emulation is definitely second rate here. Is there any obvious fault in Nintendo's emulation of the NES's noise channel? The firmware cannot be updated, but maybe a later revision could implement a fix.

Here is the video I am listening to : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LijjUluVQ_U


That's $60 saved. Or more, if the news articles about limited availability are to be believed.

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The NES Classic will be back in stock at GameStop U.S. stores this week, starting Jan. 25. According to GameSpot


It's as if all your least favorite relatives showed up at your house together demanding to be taken in for the next six months.
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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:26 pm 


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WelshMegalodon wrote:
Nitpicking of the sound emulation from NESdev


Might as well just get a cheap Android mini PC and load it up with emulators and ROMs/ISOs on a MicroSD card if you're going to get crappy sound emulation ..


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:58 am 


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I lack interest in the classic mini due to having both an Everdrive and an AES.


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:38 pm 


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..aaaand it's gone.
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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:18 am 


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It's gotta be a little bit of soul crushing to them that an emulator in a nice box sold at the same rate as the Wii U. (Think how well a real budget console devoted to nothing but retro style games could do. If backed by someone like Nintendo.)

Though whoever came up with the idea as a way to triage their barren schedule last year is probably getting a pat on the head.


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:09 am 


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BulletMagnet wrote:

Their reasons are, as always, idiotic. What about JP and EU?
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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
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There were rumors back in February that the EU supply has already dried up.

I'm half expecting Nintendo to publish a "Nintendo Classics" bundle with exactly the same games on Switch ("enjoy "Nintendo Classics" on Switch - at home and on the go").


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:25 pm 


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soprano1 wrote:
What about JP and EU?

Here's the situation with the former.
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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
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BulletMagnet wrote:
soprano1 wrote:
What about JP and EU?

Here's the situation with the former.

Yeah, read that earlier today. I guess EU will follow.
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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:46 am 


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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017- ... -this-year
Fuck's sake, really?
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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:21 pm 


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I've heard people are already paying hundreds for NES Minis. That's the priciest locked down Android box I've ever seen .. :lol:

Benchmark comparison with an Android device using the same SoC as the NES Mini versus some Android sticks that I own.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/5880915 <-- NES Mini SoC
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/6190757 <-- $60 CDN
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/6690829 <-- $20 CDN (lol)

And here's some fun technical details.

http://linux-sunxi.org/R16
http://linux-sunxi.org/Nintendo_NES_Classic_Edition


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:36 pm 



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Maybe Nintendo is trying to create an atmosphere were this becomes the prevailing sentiment:

"Screw this - buying a Switch and the games that I like on virtual console will be cheaper in the end - and a lot less hassle." :mrgreen:

According to this Nintendo may only make a couple of bucks on each unit - in which case these devices aren't "products" but just promotional material for a marketing/branding stunt.


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:45 pm 


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Maybe they should just sell them for hundreds right off the bat. People don't seem to mind getting gouged for this shoddy low quality emulation crap anyway ..

I'd rather dig a 486 out of a landfill and play some NESticle. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
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They do realize they are just priming a market for somebody to crank these out, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:57 pm 


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Udderdude wrote:
I'd rather dig a 486 out of a landfill and play some NESticle. :lol:


Hey now, hey, let's not say anything crazy, now


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:17 am 



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HydrogLox wrote:
They do realize they are just priming a market for somebody to crank these out, right?


Not quite, but close...

I swear, if I had a dime for every "emulation box" RetroPie article on the Internet I'd be decapping chips for MAME devs.
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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:01 am 



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just secured one at ordinary retail price from a very brief sam's club restock :mrgreen:

had one of those stock alert things open praying SOMEWHERE would restock, and boom, there we went. ahhhhhh, feels nice to win something. Image

now the dilemma of whether or not to flip it or keep it! haha

i really wanted one of these to have a really easily portable and aesthetically attractive gaming experience when house-sitting or visiting my parents!


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:56 am 



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The actual emulation is full of crap like sound lag, input lag, fake grain, and ugly anti-seizure mods. I'd sell the thing and buy a few more Game Boy carts instead.
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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:12 am 



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WelshMegalodon wrote:
The actual emulation is full of crap like sound lag, input lag, fake grain, and ugly anti-seizure mods. I'd sell the thing and buy a few more Game Boy carts instead.


oh, hey, i recognize this show. they were the ones who suggested using nail polish displays for game boy games! try4ce told me they got a lot of people sending in pictures of them using them, but that i was the first to send him one of the wall-mounted racks. he was pretty impressed!

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i was curious why he and his buddy were going all out on such nice displays with kinda small collections without any cool oddities, but to each their own :P woulda spent the money on a fancier game boy game, rather than a display stand, in his shoes

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anyway, yeah, wow. okay, nevermind, i'm hocking my nes classic after watching that! damn, i really thought this thing was supposed to be better than that?


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:26 pm 


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anyway, yeah, wow. okay, nevermind, i'm hocking my nes classic after watching that! damn, i really thought this thing was supposed to be better than that?


Nope. It's a cheap-o off the shelf ARM SoC running some custom emulator on Linux. Just because big dummy heads were paying scalpers hundreds for the things over eBay doesn't make it any good.

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... classic%2F


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:13 pm 


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The Classic Mini shenanigans make me glad I have an AES and Everdrive N8.


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 Post subject: Re: Nintendo Classic Mini
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