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 Post subject: Re: Recommended Anime/Manga?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:34 pm 


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ZacharyB : Thank you for the explanation. :)
The scene makes a little bit more sense. But with that in mind, I think the cultural reference still actively hinders the joke about Yuuko being confused, as there is no clear comedic dynamic between the two characters and the joke about Japanese politeness butts in whenever I expect the Yuuko joke to be actively strengthened by the clerk's behavior. Besides, the politeness comes across as crippling social anxiety instead due to the overexaggeration. Damn, I am probably overanalyzing all this... :lol:

I guess it's the kind of humor that works better with people who can catch all those references and find them relatable? But I still believe there are fundamental issues in timing, pacing and audiovisual presentation in general that cultural references can't justify.

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While on the topic of gag series, I'll reiterate that I enjoyed The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. For the longest time I put it off since I found the cover art and main character's design so repulsive on the surface. The series itself never lingers too long on any one story, moving on within 2 to 6 minutes, and whenever the one note characters begin to get stale, introduces new ones. The main character's consistent mild disappointment with the world is a refreshing tone as well.

I have this series on my (ever-growing) plan-to-watch list, and the bolded in the quote may make me check it out sooner than I thought!
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Only on the third episode, but I'm enjoying Time Bokan 24 so far. Immensely goofy.
my girlfriend watched an episode with me and she hated it, the jokes were too corny for her :lol:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:20 pm 


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Manga I've read over the couple months:

Jiraishin is a collection of noir detective stories set in Shinjuku, Tokyo, which follow the exploits of hard-boiled detective Kyoya Iida as he unravels the mystery behind any murders he comes into contact with, because he doesn't want to lose. It's a pretty cliché set-up and almost plays like a darker manga adaptation of a cop show, but the handled cases cases get quite interesting and show many different aspects of human psychology of what causes man to kill others. Iida is usually stone cold, but shows brief glimpses of emotion where it counts. What helps realize this dark world is how the artstyle can switch from matter-of-fact realism to abstract in a minute depending on what's happening. The A-KIRA case is probably the best of Jiraishin both visually and narratively. A sequel named Jiraishin Diablo was made ten years later after the end of the original run, but it was unfortunately never fully translated.

Molester Man is a manga based on a series of threads and posts posted by a 2ch poster who called himself Molester Man, as he details the events of how he accidentally got arrested under suspicion of being a stalker (thus earning him the name Molester Man) and how he got romantically involved with the friends of the woman who mistook him for a stalker, while sperging out on 2ch for advice and hiding his NEET life. The feels are still real though, and quite worth reading despite the rough artwork.

Fire Punch is the most bizarre manga I've read in some time, largely because its tone constantly shifts from place to place. The world is covered in perpetual snow, everyone has slowly gone insane, and whatever societies have formed are ass-backwards. It follows the exploits of a boy with the ability to regenerate, but is lit on fire by a flame which can never go out, putting him in a perpetual cycle of pain, flame, and regeneration for several years until he has his body has grown to that of an adult and can withstand the pain enough to walk on his two feet. He sets out to find his lost sister, but gets mixed up with a woman who calls herself the Director, and wants to shoot a movie out of boredom with the burning man starring as the protagonist/antagonist who must become Fire Punch, while everybody else around here thinks she's mental. What ensues are training montages starring Fire Ejaculator, caravan ride fight scenes, giant robot fights, suffering of the highest degree, transsexuality, every sin possible, giant spirit trees filled with the desire to create a world where more Star Wars sequels are made, and general insanity. One thing is for certain, the paneling sure is great.

Franken Fran follows a set of horror-comedy stories starring the titular Franken Fran, a kind of Frankenstein-monster girl who is a genius doctor and runs her own clinic with her bio-horror assistants. The first half of the stories follow a set-up similar to the Fujiko wish-granting stories where a patient asks Fran to perform an impossible operation on him so his wish can be granted, but with tragic consequences. What's commendable is the amount of medical homework the mangaka has done, each impossible operation is backed up by a medical explanation which kind of makes sense. The gore has some incredible attention to detail as well and doesn't look like random entrails and blood sticking out of a human body, which kind of adds to the pseudo-authenticity. The bio-horror experiments get all kinds of ridiculous, with women who loved fish so much she got turned into a giant whale before washing up ashore, cloning experiments gone horribly wrong, a religious cult operating an entire factory which operates exactly like the human body while feeding it the appropriate materials, Kamen Rider wannabes who in the end are trying to save the earth by ridding it from humans, the joys of plastic surgery, and patients addicted to surgery. Later stories introduce new characters and start deviating from the wish-granting formula to medical mystery which is still quite interesting on its own. Unfortunately the manga ended prematurely, so the new characters ended up falling short. Still a great read.
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 Post subject: Re: Recommended Anime/Manga?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:48 am 


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The name Molester Man caught my attention and ended up reading the whole post. I think I'll try one of those.
Its been a long time since Ive read a manga, but Fire Punch seems to be the Junji Ito level of crazyness, wich is great.

(btw, my Ito's favorite must be Black Paradox)
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Aho Girl and Tsurezure Children have an anime now. Aho Girl looks good, but Tsurezure's animation is pretty weak, unfortunately.
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Discovered a new series. They're minute long episodes.

Aggressive Retsuko. A red panda works in an office and has to deal with her annoying coworkers. She does this by singing death metal.

It's fucking hilarious. And usually painfully relatable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLQZtkn83xk

I have been binge watching the shit out of this all night.
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017- ... adaptation
Splatoon anime, might be fun.
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The wildly diverging versions of the future are always amusing.

In Overlord, the world is this horrible anarcho-capitalist paradise, where the conglomerates had long ago succeeded in killing off the government. The air is poison, it's impossible to live except as a slave to the corporations. Everyone's family members tend to die at around 40 from overwork. (Which makes me wonder why the "has to be a productive member of society" provision in Overlord's guild exists. If you're not a wagie, you're a bandit guy in a spacesuit trying to scrape together enough food and oxygen to keep breathing. Little free time to VRMMORPG, you'd think.)

The worst impact of this is, of course, the very poor quality of video games. It's 100 years in the future, and it's extremely crude. About as good as today, except for some slightly better haptic feedback: still pushing buttons to use skills, NPCs barely have any scripts let alone simulated AI, just the worst.

In contrast, in Hero without Blood or Tear, it's only a mere 50 years in the future and everyone has basic income, the games are full dive (with time acceleration to boot), and NPCs have AI. RPGs have advanced to the point of having actual score systems, where people compete for score. True madness.


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In Overlord, the world is this horrible anarcho-capitalist paradise, where the conglomerates had long ago succeeded in killing off the government. The air is poison, it's impossible to live except as a slave to the corporations. Everyone's family members tend to die at around 40 from overwork.

:shock: And here i thought it just another .hack clone, that's a very grim dystopia.
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BryanM wrote:
In Overlord, the world is this horrible anarcho-capitalist paradise, where the conglomerates had long ago succeeded in killing off the government. The air is poison, it's impossible to live except as a slave to the corporations. Everyone's family members tend to die at around 40 from overwork. (Which makes me wonder why the "has to be a productive member of society" provision in Overlord's guild exists. If you're not a wagie, you're a bandit guy in a spacesuit trying to scrape together enough food and oxygen to keep breathing. Little free time to VRMMORPG, you'd think.)


The worst impact of this is, of course, the very poor quality of video games. It's 100 years in the future, and it's extremely crude. About as good as today, except for some slightly better haptic feedback: still pushing buttons to use skills, NPCs barely have any scripts let alone simulated AI, just the worst.

A world where gatcha developers and Steam Greenlight managed to triumph over anything just for the profit, muh profit.


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In contrast, in Hero without Blood or Tear, it's only a mere 50 years in the future and everyone has basic income, the games are full dive (with time acceleration to boot), and NPCs have AI. RPGs have advanced to the point of having actual score systems, where people compete for score. True madness.

I guess this author knows that China will make good enough games to compete with koreans and japaneses, but it could be wishful thinking.
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Last time I was there every Chinese I've talked games with was into some wuxia mmo shit, today apparently it's eSports all the way with the most played online games period.

I don't think anyone there has any fucks left to spare for non-massive-multiplayer soft. SkyKid could probably tell us more about the current trends though.
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Last time I was there every Chinese I've talked games with was into some wuxia mmo shit, today apparently it's eSports all the way with the most played online games period.

I don't think anyone there has any fucks left to spare for non-massive-multiplayer soft. SkyKid could probably tell us more about the current trends though.


All the kids are still into Wuxia MMO shit, or League of Legends or Warcraft. LoL is pervasive.

Game Centers live on as casual entertainment zones for the family, but pocketed by guys who are diehard pros on select racing games and all the dancing and music cabinets; usually what every the latest Korean or Japanese thing is (yesterday was time sequenced cubes, today it's streaking fingers across oval screens).

King of Fighters lives on in all of these places, some more prominently than others - but that scene has taken a hit and downsized from when I first arrived. What they did to the DariusBurst cabinet was some kind of criminal act.
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I was a bit afraid you would report something like that, not too surprised except that KOF still isn't 100% dead lol.
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HOLY SHIT Discotek Media actually listened to me :O

We are getting the Fist Of The North Star series in Standard Def on Blu Ray.
https://www.facebook.com/Discotekmedia/ ... =3&theater

I asked them this last year, so glad they obliged (BIL, I need your teary-eyed emoticon here).
I knew no one would EVER dare take on the task of doing a scan(for high def) of a series so huge, which is why I asked them for an SD on BD package. This will still offer 2 advantages over the DVD set :

1-cheaper
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That's cool. It really makes sense to use standard def on Blu-ray on gigantic shows like that. I'm hoping something similar can be done to City Hunter, for example. I don't think it will gain too much from a re-master or anything (it's not the best looking anime, certain episodes/scenes not withstanding).

I mean, I love some of these recent bluray releases and I will evidently be quite happy to pay through the nose for remastered oldschool anime on bluray, but there are times when the audiovisual upgrade isn't top priority.
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Nice PV. So it's a new take on the original Devilman story, I take it?
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New Gundam Build Fighters series (Battlogue) just aired.
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If you haven't done so already, go watch the existing 5 episodes of Vatican Kiseki Chousakan RIGHT NOW
the less you know the better, and the longer you don't the more likely you are to get spoiled
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Anyone saw King of Fighters Destiny yet? It's a new CG series that retells 94 and 95, but includes story elements from the first Fatal Fury and AoF games. It has remixed songs from the classic games, so that's nice. The fights look well done and all, but the CG is kinda crappy, unfortunately. First two episodes with official subs here:
Ep1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2qwCgeYIg
Ep2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odta89IoDw4

SNK will make the episodes available here. 24 are in production:
https://www.youtube.com/user/snkplaymoreGame/videos
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I've watched the first season of Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans and I don't care about it. Because it doesn't do anything with itself or anything which it sets up.

So we have a mercenary group of child soldiers looking to make a name for themselves in a gritty world filled with adults. Will we see them take on various kind of oddjobs and ethically questionable missions for the sake of money? Nah, they just spend 25 episodes on a single escort mission. So we have a mercenary group with old equipment in need of repairs and next to no funds as their accountant puts it. Will they prioritize money or their principles? Neither, they just make a deal with the friendly Jovian ?mafia/yakuza? and any question concerning money and supplies is rendered void. Surely there's more groups out there who are in the same boat as our main characters. Will they tragically have to fight eachother for the sake of survival? Nah, as far as the series is concerned there exists only one single pirate group who partially consist of child-slave soldiers, but their slavers are killed off and the kids are integrated in the good guy group (some of their comrades were killed in action, but it's not like anybody dwelled on that for more than one episode). So we have an impoverished planet oppressed by a foreign government, which are the circumstances by which our group of good guys are created and the main reason why everything is set in motion. Will we get to see how this poor society takes matters in its own hands and starts a revolution? Not really, but the series swears the revolution will come after the peace princess is delivered to Earth, but in the meantime there's some off-screen protesting and oppression going on while the good guys accidentally cause a revolution by delivering faulty weapons to the workers, but the revolution succeeds anyways and gets resolved somehow off-screen. So we have things like a Piccolo'd moon, it being normal to marry to little girls, and a mercenary harem group. What's up with that? Well, there was a big nasty war 300 years ago which got resolved by Gundams, but that's as far as we know what happened.

Now, for a Gundam series, IBO's premise sure is interesting. Given that most Gundam shows feature underage boys reluctantly forced into giant death machines by fate to fight some war in space, eventually having child soldiers would be a no-brainer. The child soldier aspect could allow one to play or subvert your traditional Gundam tropes. There are more factions in play than stand-ins for the Federation and Zeon. There's no beamspam. The main Gundam likes to smash things with a chunk of raw steel instead of a beamsaber. The tone is grittier and more serious. Poverty-struck nations and their desire for revolution practically begs for worldbuilding detail. All things considered it may have been a step in the right direction for the franchise and to make itself stand out, the problem is that doesn't do anything with it and the things it does are boring.

Basically, there are all these interesting story elements and opportunities which IBO briefly sets up only to never use again. Instead, it focuses on themes such as child soldiers and family. The thing is that the former loses weight throughout the duration of the series when the good guy child soldiers don't live in terrible conditions and fight voluntarily, and the latter falls apart because a huge deal is made out of how they're all a part of one another, but when a background character dies nobody cares. But a more important factor for why the theme of family doesn't work out is because the characters who consist of that family are incredibly boring themselves.

The MC might as well not exist. His sole purpose in the plot is to pilot the Gundam and just do what everybody else tells him to. He cares about the family and gets mad when someone threatens it, but that's about it. He neither changes or inspires change--he's a plot device, pure and simple. He's not cool and witty, he just doesn't care, and neither do I. He's only special because he got a forced surgery three times in a row which makes him three times faster with mobile suits. The only thing that motivates him is blindly following his leader who he'd known since childhood. Maybe a case could be made that he's supposed to be an example of how child soldiers should learn to think for themselves, but typically that's not a role suitable for the MC.

This one's iteration of the peace princess was handled in a rather mediocre way. She wasn't constantly getting everyone in trouble because of her naivete, and at least recognized that weakness and sought to work on it. She kind of functioned as the onee-san of the group alongside the haremettes and the loli for the first few episodes in order to at least diversify the doujin output, but after the (at least interesting) slice of life segments ended with her teaching kids how to read and write and the obligatory character death-fueled sudden character development gotten over, she was just discarded to become background character. Alongside all the other side characters who had the privilege of a flashback backstory and any attention at all before being forgotten and/or killed off.

Most of the side characters are so devoid of personality, unique interaction and purpose that you have a better time characterizing them as a group. At least Cartman wasn't, but he got Kircheis'd in the most obviously telegraphed fashion possible.

The bad guys are a peacekeeping organization who end up following the whims of the corrupt aristocratic elite, and some of those guys don't want the peace princess preaching peace and Martian independence, and want her executed. This faction sucks. We don't see much of the grunts and most of its leaders are blatantly evil and corrupt, but also incompetent. And the Graze suits look pretty fucking cool.

That's why this one's Char clone intends to reform it by cleansing all the corruption. Though, this Char clone is a serious fucking chuuni. At some point you'd think after bitterly reminiscing your childhood all the time, having the most forced 'mysterious guy' voice of all time, and wearing a flamboyant wig/mask as a disguise that this guy is played for laughs, but apparently he's 100% serious which makes him even more laughable and out of place. What makes him even more laughable is the subtle implication that he's a lolicon given the amount of time he spends around little girls or wooing them with chocolate, though whether that's unintentional is everyone's best guess.

The Char clone is then aided by his childhood friend, the Garma clone. Yet I found the Garma clone the most relatable guy out of this entire season by virtue of the shit he goes through despite being one of the bad guys. Given the shit they both did for eachother, Garma's friendship with his subordinate evokes stronger feelings than the child soldier's vague bonds of 'family'. And when his death was being blamed at the misfortune of his birth you could at least understood what it's like to be fucked over for twenty years of your life. Heck, while Garma's subordinate is a Jerid clone but less pathetic and less macho and only exists to be transformed in the final boss for the season finale, being constantly fucked over by space rats and having your superiors be killed off or humiliated all the time is still somewhat more relatable despite the fact he's constantly thinking about killing the children responsible. Even a fucking childkiller is more deserving of sympathy than any of the disposable good guys.

IBO also likes to handle politics (with the subtlety of a fucking sledgehammer) even though it's all boring by virtue of all the politicking being performed by boring characters and all of it coming down to power plays and using pawns, yet a disproportionate amount of time was spent on this shit.

Well, at least if plot, characterization and world-building feel, at least a mecha show can fall back on its action, right? Right?

[faint YEEART echoing through space]

The fights themselves are a fucking mess. The choreography made it hard to discern what was actually happening on screen beyond hunks of metal repeatedly clashing at another as the QUALITY animation didn't really help. The Gundam frames are supposed to move erratically and subtly like humans, but this idea is completely lost with bad animation. While the first episodes did try to mix up the idea of two giant robots going at eachother, later on it's just a slugfest over and over. Sometimes there's some tactics or battle plans involved but most of it revolved around sending out the MC. The MC is so good that he's rarely ever in a bind. The final boss of the season provided a real challenge but the MC won through an asspull by allowing his suit to perform even betterer by using 120% of his power somehow?

The season finale was some drek as well. The final boss appeared and cut down the bigger side-characters in their suits like they were nothing, but ALL of them miraculously survived. You don't need people dying to create tension, but if everyone just survives lethal situations like they're nothing then all future situation lose their tension by default because you know nobody (important) is going to die until the end anyways. The episodes prior to the finale set up the good guys to be more hungry for revenge after their big buddy Cartman died which could lead to a Big Boss-esque downfall as is evidenced by the adult characters saying how wrong this situation is, but later on it's all somehow okayed after the leader tells everyone else to just not die and keep living as the adults say everything is all right anyways.

Overall the visuals are decent. The animation is crap, the character designs do enough to stand out even though not really aesthetically pleasing, and the mobile suit designs are very good, but utilized rather poorly because you can't make out their shape or form when they are moving as a result of the poor animation, which is all the time. However, the background art does deserve some praise. The artists must have had some personal experience to really nail the feeling for these impoverished district. The soundtrack is quite decent with energetic guitars setting the tone, though in the later episodes it doesn't become as noticeable.

I wouldn't say IBO S1 is bad. I didn't really hate anything about it until I reflected on the time I spent watching this. It's just not particularly engaging. The plot does move forward at least and for the first 10-15 episodes I was somewhat entertained, but it wore off with the ever-increasing meandering of character relationships I realized would end up being meaningless, boring politicking, and fighting scenes with no luster. It's just wasted potential.

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Yep. Go watch Gundam Thunderbolt to clean your mind, it's cool.
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is AGE the worst gundam? I didn't hear anything even remotely good about it, at least SEED Destiny was hilariously bad


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Bananamatic wrote:
is AGE the worst gundam? I didn't hear anything even remotely good about it, at least SEED Destiny was hilariously bad

from what I've heard AGE is so bad across many aspects that by some freak accident of nature the MC ends up being the best part of the show, and I've never seen anyone defend it, not even in a 'but it's not that bad/but it has some redeeming aspects' kind of way
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AGE's second ED song is fucking great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6p0UzVNhs
But that's all that is great about it. :(
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Madoka Magica: Rebellion

Finally watching this one. Nothing much to say it's better than expected, the battles are more stylish (dat gun fight), and more intriguing. I was confused in the first act why they appeared together, and it was revealed during the second act. Definitely a fun ride, well that's it!



until the last 20 minutes, which is fucking hell. I honestly can't comment about this one, only leave my reaction after the movie ends.
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That super cute skewered deer at the start always makes my skin crawl. I always forget about it and always get surprised by it, since it's only on screen for a second. "Did I really just see what I thought I saw? *freeze frame* Yes... yes I did."

So grotesque.

Always a trip how Meguca can make me care about a stupid insignificant sliding door, while World End tries and fails to get me to care about its doomed fairy girl or whatever.


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