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 Post subject: Re: Little things that annoy the hell out of you
PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:08 am 



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Yeah, that seems to be pre-DOS computer gaming in a nutshell. I've most definitely had issues getting cracked images running in WinVICE and Altirra.

To be fair, we owe the hacking community for distributing the disk images in the first place, altered or otherwise. There are also projects like this one (no warez) aiming to amass clean dumps of the known software.
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To be fair, we owe the hacking community for distributing the disk images in the first place, altered or otherwise. There are also projects like this one (no warez) aiming to amass clean dumps of the known software.


That's true. I don't know if early emulators had copy protection issues that necessitated that sort of thing, but it's still a shame considering how much easier it is to find 'clean' dumps of NES/SNES games by comparison.

Then again, considering the format is prone to failure, it's a miracle so many of the diskettes have been dumped at all.
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Why is it all of the Commodore 64 games found dumped are ones that have hacks applied to them? I swear some of the games act buggier or unusual compared to how they played originally, and because the original game code's possibly modified there's no way of knowing if it's an emulator bug or if it's a bug with the hacked version itself...

Cracked games are the norm because you can actually copy them easily, and then people liked the convenience of trainers and shit like that.
It's a major issue with computer scenes in general.
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People that defend piracy with ridiculous and/or outdated arguments, and people that say pirates are worse than child abusers (yes, some people went there :shock: )
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 Post subject: Re: Little things that annoy the hell out of you
PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:24 pm 



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We've definitely had some of the former here on SHMUPs.

Honestly, people joke about how gamers are such a whiny bunch, but it's really the community that gets me. It's much easier not to play a bad game than it is to shut out the horrible people thinking it's so great and blindly labeling mechanics as "outdated".

All those people obsessed with "improving" the PS1 generation... or trying to play Dolphin in HD...

And speaking of the emulation community:

https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comm ... f/dettv18/

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To be honest, I'm not expecting much from the user-side of the emulation community anymore, and from what I gathered this is a common trend among emulator developers. There is a niche group of people who actually care about platform research and preservation, and I have come to appreciate their feedback over the years a lot, but the vast majority seems to be teenagers looking for easy ways to play the next-and-greatest pokemon/zelda/mario game for free. I'm looking forward to the day the latter group comes to realize supporting closed-source models is the wrong choice.


I'm considering just reading what byuu and Mask_of_Destiny post in /r/emulation instead of going to the actual page...

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As someone with a 100% score on the SNES ... these [TASVideos' emulator accuracy] tests are very over-rated. The scores are just the number of tests passed, with no consideration to the importance of each test. Many tests will be things that zero commercial games ever do.
I'm all for them existing and all for emulators passing them, but an emulator should be judged by its compatibility (and lack of hacks, and open source status) rather than by the number of test ROMs it passes.
Test ROMs are for emulator developers, not for user benchmarking. TAS Videos does us a disservice by posting those results publicly :/
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 Post subject: Re: Little things that annoy the hell out of you
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Edge-case accuracy is fairly important for romhacks and people doing dev for old machines and the lot, and there really isn't much wrong with posting test results publicly other than most people sucking at interpreting statistics.
I'm glad at the work byuu does, and he has a hell of a lot more ground to make certain statements than most, but there's no reason to make a sacred cow out of him. Shit, byuu's even said as much before.
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I'm aware of all the, ahem, drama that's surrounded byuu and his relationship with others in the community (not to mention higan's tendency to fail when it comes to fan translations and homebrew), and I apologize if it sounds like I've been idolizing him. The man isn't exactly known for his winning personality.

I respect those that actually know what they're talking about where emulation accuracy is concerned, is all.
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(not to mention higan's tendency to fail when it comes to fan translations and homebrew)

(but that's just because said things wouldn't work on real hardware either)
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Someone who keeps asking you to play fighters with them yet always starts whining about how the game is weird and armchair game design bullshit because they lost.

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I still enjoy the schadenfreude though.
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Someone who keeps asking you to play fighters with them yet always starts whining about how the game is weird and armchair game design bullshit because they lost.

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I still enjoy the schadenfreude though.

It's a general reply from people who (still) aren't good enough, or are sore losers. In Pokemon Showdown, even when playing with the official VGC format, this toxic garbage happens all the time.
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The PS3. I mean seriously, fuck this machine. Picked up a back compatible fatty. It's loud as fuck and the fan seems to be on full whack constantly (thermal paste was renewed recently). Downloaded Everybody's Golf World Tour, forgot that this shitty machine makes you download an installer, then actually installs the game. A 15 minute wait on top of a painfully slow 7gb DL. The UI is over cluttered and ugly, the pads are dreadful, and overall I stand by my opinion that it's an utter fucking abomination compared to the 360.
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^My PS3 recently started doing that with the fan, I had to take it apart and blow about a metric ton of dust out of the damn thing. Once I powered it back on it went back to normal. I swear to god it sounded like a jet engine was in my house LOL


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fucking baby boomers, all of them, nuke'em from orbit
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Yeah, kill the baby boomers and not the liar politicians and the elites they service or the miserable shitcunt they employ to tell you your enemy is baby boomers, and not them.
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The politicians, elites and shitcunts are baby boomers.
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Squire Grooktook wrote:
Someone who keeps asking you to play fighters with them yet always starts whining about how the game is weird and armchair game design bullshit because they lost.

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I still enjoy the schadenfreude though.

It's a general reply from people who (still) aren't good enough, or are sore losers. In Pokemon Showdown, even when playing with the official VGC format, this toxic garbage happens all the time.


I keep this around just for such occasions ;3

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 Post subject: Re: Little things that annoy the hell out of you
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BIL, I'm seriously keeping that, it's perfect. Thanks again for delivering.
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The PS3. I mean seriously, fuck this machine. Picked up a back compatible fatty. It's loud as fuck and the fan seems to be on full whack constantly (thermal paste was renewed recently). Downloaded Everybody's Golf World Tour, forgot that this shitty machine makes you download an installer, then actually installs the game. A 15 minute wait on top of a painfully slow 7gb DL. The UI is over cluttered and ugly, the pads are dreadful, and overall I stand by my opinion that it's an utter fucking abomination compared to the 360.

Yeah. I wouldn't go as far as "an abomination", and I don't have the old, louder model, but the PS3 has definitely frustrated more than the 360 ever did. If it weren't for a few exclusives and the default controller having a more usable D-Pad, I doubt I'd use the thing at all. Particularly irksome is the store, where pretty much nothing ever has a demo, and a lot of things don't have any kind of screenshots, or if it has a video you sometimes have to download it and view outside of the store application. The store also crashes a lot on me.
It's also kinda dumb how if you have the composite cables pulgged in, and not the HDMI, the video/sound output doesn't default to it. Seems like you actually have to plug both cables into an HDTV and configure it beforehand if you want to use it on a CRT or something.

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Someone who keeps asking you to play fighters with them yet always starts whining about how the game is weird and armchair game design bullshit because they lost.

tbf, Darkstalkers is kind of a weird game :P


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It's also kinda dumb how if you have the composite cables pulgged in, and not the HDMI, the video/sound output doesn't default to it. Seems like you actually have to plug both cables into an HDTV and configure it beforehand if you want to use it on a CRT or something.


When the machine's off, hold the power button down til it beeps twice to reset the display configuration. I think that's right, you may have to look it up.

also fuk y'all the pad is fine dualshock fo lyf.

Haha the thing about Squire is; despite his calm polite demeanour and love of cute things, he's unhindered pure aggression when it comes to fighters.
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The politicians, elites and shitcunts are baby boomers.



Can't we just kill you instead? You dumb, brainwashed, egotistical, cross-dressing, shit stabbing, faggot Jew fuck.
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faggot Jew fuck.

That annoys the hell out of me...


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Satan wrote:
Xyga wrote:
The politicians, elites and shitcunts are baby boomers.



Can't we just kill you instead?


Let's ban you instead.
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Xyga wrote:
The politicians, elites and shitcunts are baby boomers.



Can't we just kill you instead?


Let's ban you instead.

Even Satan must obey the rules of a forum.
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The ridiculous money offers for Cave games in the WTB section.

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You know, when he wasn't exploding into torrents of abuse/flaming like that at people who're far more of a natural ally than other forum members.. I thought Satan was alright.
When he wasn't pulling shit like this.

Somewhat incomprehensible, unless he's of baby boomer age. Which wouldn't surprise me knowing this forum :mrgreen:

Also, a friend of mine who was playing OoT for the first time just admitted he's been using a walkthrough for nearly all the adult dungeons. Urgh
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Somewhat incomprehensible, unless he's of baby boomer age.

I'm sure Satan is primeval age. :wink:
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