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 Post subject: Forum software / theme bugs thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:31 am 


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If you find any bugs in the new forum, or something isn't looking like it should - please post in this thread. It will be unlocked for posting after the migration.
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 Post subject: Re: Forum software / theme bugs thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:36 pm 


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I need to find out how widespread this one is - at least several user are now seeing 'sid=(stuff)' in the address bar, when they didn't before.

Is this happening to people?

If it is, does clearing *all* cookies with 'system11.org' in them and restarting your browser fix it?
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The session ID thing will sort itself out.

My address bar is clear btw - Iceweasel 3.0.9
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I need to find out how widespread this one is - at least severla user are now seeing 'sid=(stuff)' in the address bar, when they didn't before.

Is this happening to people?

If it is, does clearing *all* cookies with 'system11.org' in them and restarting your browser fix it?


none of that here....running firefox.....

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 Post subject: Re: Forum software / theme bugs thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:46 pm 


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Nothing related to session ID here. On latest Firefox 3 on a Mac.

Just a question regarding the breadcrumb trails (those links that look like Board index >> Off Topic >> Off Topic): are you going to leave them where they are at present, or put them back into the same position as they were on the phpBB2 theme? I felt that it was a lot easier to find them in their original positions, though it won't really take long to get used to them again.

Also, is that the highest amount of characters that the message body limit goes to?

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Icarus wrote:
Also, is that the highest amount of characters that the message body limit goes to?


Is what the highest amount of characters?

Message character limit been increased from the old version of the forum so that certain legitimate huge-ass posts which used to be divided into several posts can now fit into one.
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Did the background of the topic list always repeat like that? Seemed like it was a continuous image before, but maybe it was because of hairlines in between topics... anyway, looks kinda funky as is.

Also noticing a lot of minor things with text and placement, but those are to be expected. One thing, though, is that it seems like the leading on the drop-down forum selector box needs to be increased; way too tight as is.

edit -- BTW, just my opinion, but I think it might be a good idea to disable the font color selector if possible. I can see that getting abused really fast.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:12 pm 


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edit -- BTW, just my opinion, but I think it might be a good idea to disable the font color selector if possible. I can see that getting abused really fast.


We'll cross that bridge if and when it comes to that.
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Yeah I think the backgorund repetition is more frequent than it was - when this has settled for a day or so I'll be making a backup forum to have a go at that with. I know why it's doing it, the new table composition is causing it, but I'm not 100% sure on how to resolve it. If I remove it from the element it's in, it will affect other things we don't want to change, so it might need new classes and such to achieve.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:17 pm 


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Looks good for the most part, a clearer separation between sticky and normal threads would be nice.


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 Post subject: Re: Forum software / theme bugs thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:18 pm 


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Ghegs wrote:
Message character limit been increased from the old version of the forum so that certain legitimate huge-ass posts which used to be divided into several posts can now fit into one.


Ahh, that's fine with me then. Started wondering if I'd have to chop up my longer ST posts in the future since this theme actually notes that there's a character limit, and I don't recall the phpBB2 one doing that.

One or two things I've noticed about this theme, with regards to post formatting:

- Lists (those using the [list] tag) no longer seem to format with an automatic linebreak between each element, and require a double linebreak within the code to display properly. As a result, everything appears bunched together even if the BBCode is formatted properly.
Having to go through all my ST threads to reformat as we speak. T^T

- The text within code boxes and quotes are a bit larger than before. 9pt was the original size?
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Also I think the colour for the light blue (using spacepilot lite) is a bit too bright in comparison to the dark colour every post between. What about you guys?
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Icarus wrote:
- The text within code boxes and quotes are a bit larger than before. 9pt was the original size?


Lol.

See, originally it was smaller, and I increased it to the same size on my screen, and now it's too big again ;)

Let's add that one to the list then.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:29 pm 


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Icarus wrote:
- Lists (those using the
    tag) no longer seem to format with an automatic linebreak between each element, and require a double linebreak within the code to display properly. As a result, everything appears bunched together even if the BBCode is formatted properly.
    Having to go through all my ST threads to reformat as we speak. T^T

  • item1
  • item2

It works fine.
Code:
[list][*]item1[*]item2[/list]
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Let me explain it another way.

Using this code:

Code:
[list][*]item1
[*]item2[/list]


Gives:

  • item1
  • item2

However, using this code:

Code:
[list][*]item1

[*]item2[/list]


Note the line break. This gives:

  • item1
  • item2

Note the missing line break?

Now imagine a post or thread that makes extensive use of nested list tags. it might seem minor to a lot of people, but for those of us who make use of lists, having to go through old, large posts, manually adding leading via double returns = very time consuming, and a major pet peeve with a large number of newer phpBB and SMF themes.

If you want an example, check the Batrider ST. All list elements had line breaks between all the list elements as in the above example, but everything's been bunched together. ;p
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They're identical on my screen. No extraneous line breaks.
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Oh, hangon - you want the extra linebreak to be present. I see.

Might find that's a fundamental phpBB3 change.
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Oh, hangon - you want the extra linebreak to be present. I see.

Might find that's a fundamental phpBB3 change.


Now that sucks. You'd think that any code you type in would be retained without sneaky posteditor changes. ;p
If I want my code to be messed up, I'll use Frontpage Express.
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Also I think the colour for the light blue (using spacepilot lite) is a bit too bright in comparison to the dark colour every post between. What about you guys?


Fixed colours for posts on lite version.
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Now that sucks. You'd think that any code you type in would be retained without sneaky posteditor changes. ;p
If I want my code to be messed up, I'll use Frontpage Express.


To be fair, it's a lot closer to HTML this way. You have to force linebreaks with <br />

Not that bbcode is html, of course. I've got a feeling the old way was a bug rather than intended, that's all. :(
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Is there a way to not have Off Topic --> Off Topic while still preserving the division between the shmups boards and Offtopic? It's just a little weird to have a single subforum for one overall type.


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cools wrote:
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Now that sucks. You'd think that any code you type in would be retained without sneaky posteditor changes. ;p
If I want my code to be messed up, I'll use Frontpage Express.


To be fair, it's a lot closer to HTML this way. You have to force linebreaks with <br />

Not that bbcode is html, of course. I've got a feeling the old way was a bug rather than intended, that's all. :(


True, but unfortunately, you can't do it that way either, as HTML is disabled, and there is no linebreak tag in BBCode.
And bug or not, it was more accurate to the written post, and more aesthetically pleasing (to me, at least). :|
It's not a major problem though, just a niggly irritation.
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Niggly irritations are problems, if you ask me :P


It is if you write guides like I do. :|

I noticed that font sizes are in pixels rather than points, now. I was quite amused when I copy-pasted an edit of one of my STs, which still had the old forum formatted BBCode, and ended up with microscopic subheaders.
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Cleaned up the images for the lite version, looks much more smooth now.
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I noticed that font sizes are in pixels rather than points, now. I was quite amused when I copy-pasted an edit of one of my STs, which still had the old forum formatted BBCode, and ended up with microscopic subheaders.


Weren't they always pixel-based font sizes even on the old version? I remember some people making witty remarks using size=1 on the font size back on the old board.

I WANT MY JAPANESE BACK ON THIS FORUM, DAMMIT! That is all.

Damn, it's even worse than before. size=1 makes things pretty much invisible. Now unless someone quotes or highlights and CnPs into a word document, they won't really know what the hell's going on what with the HIDDEN TEXT with size=1. =D

You could pretty much put an entire Shakespeare scene in size=1 and no one will suspect a thing. To test my theory...

SCENE I. Verona. A public place.

Enter SAMPSON and GREGORY, of the house of Capulet, armed with swords and bucklers

SAMPSON

Gregory, o' my word, we'll not carry coals.

GREGORY

No, for then we should be colliers.

SAMPSON

I mean, an we be in choler, we'll draw.

GREGORY

Ay, while you live, draw your neck out o' the collar.

SAMPSON

I strike quickly, being moved.

GREGORY

But thou art not quickly moved to strike.

SAMPSON

A dog of the house of Montague moves me.

GREGORY

To move is to stir; and to be valiant is to stand:
therefore, if thou art moved, thou runn'st away.

SAMPSON

A dog of that house shall move me to stand: I will
take the wall of any man or maid of Montague's.

GREGORY

That shows thee a weak slave; for the weakest goes
to the wall.

SAMPSON

True; and therefore women, being the weaker vessels,
are ever thrust to the wall: therefore I will push
Montague's men from the wall, and thrust his maids
to the wall.

GREGORY

The quarrel is between our masters and us their men.

SAMPSON

'Tis all one, I will show myself a tyrant: when I
have fought with the men, I will be cruel with the
maids, and cut off their heads.

GREGORY

The heads of the maids?

SAMPSON

Ay, the heads of the maids, or their maidenheads;
take it in what sense thou wilt.

GREGORY

They must take it in sense that feel it.

SAMPSON

Me they shall feel while I am able to stand: and
'tis known I am a pretty piece of flesh.

GREGORY

'Tis well thou art not fish; if thou hadst, thou
hadst been poor John. Draw thy tool! here comes
two of the house of the Montagues.

SAMPSON

My naked weapon is out: quarrel, I will back thee.

GREGORY

How! turn thy back and run?

SAMPSON

Fear me not.

GREGORY

No, marry; I fear thee!

SAMPSON

Let us take the law of our sides; let them begin.

GREGORY

I will frown as I pass by, and let them take it as
they list.

SAMPSON

Nay, as they dare. I will bite my thumb at them;
which is a disgrace to them, if they bear it.

Enter ABRAHAM and BALTHASAR

ABRAHAM

Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?

SAMPSON

I do bite my thumb, sir.

ABRAHAM

Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?

SAMPSON

[Aside to GREGORY] Is the law of our side, if I say
ay?

GREGORY

No.

SAMPSON

No, sir, I do not bite my thumb at you, sir, but I
bite my thumb, sir.

GREGORY

Do you quarrel, sir?

ABRAHAM

Quarrel sir! no, sir.

SAMPSON

If you do, sir, I am for you: I serve as good a man as you.

ABRAHAM

No better.

SAMPSON

Well, sir.

GREGORY

Say 'better:' here comes one of my master's kinsmen.

SAMPSON

Yes, better, sir.

ABRAHAM

You lie.

SAMPSON

Draw, if you be men. Gregory, remember thy swashing blow.

They fight

Enter BENVOLIO

BENVOLIO

Part, fools!
Put up your swords; you know not what you do.

Beats down their swords

Enter TYBALT

TYBALT

What, art thou drawn among these heartless hinds?
Turn thee, Benvolio, look upon thy death.

BENVOLIO

I do but keep the peace: put up thy sword,
Or manage it to part these men with me.

TYBALT

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word,
As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee:
Have at thee, coward!

They fight

Enter, several of both houses, who join the fray; then enter Citizens, with clubs

First Citizen

Clubs, bills, and partisans! strike! beat them down!
Down with the Capulets! down with the Montagues!

Enter CAPULET in his gown, and LADY CAPULET

CAPULET

What noise is this? Give me my long sword, ho!

LADY CAPULET

A crutch, a crutch! why call you for a sword?

CAPULET

My sword, I say! Old Montague is come,
And flourishes his blade in spite of me.

Enter MONTAGUE and LADY MONTAGUE

MONTAGUE

Thou villain Capulet,--Hold me not, let me go.

LADY MONTAGUE

Thou shalt not stir a foot to seek a foe.

Enter PRINCE, with Attendants

PRINCE

Rebellious subjects, enemies to peace,
Profaners of this neighbour-stained steel,--
Will they not hear? What, ho! you men, you beasts,
That quench the fire of your pernicious rage
With purple fountains issuing from your veins,
On pain of torture, from those bloody hands
Throw your mistemper'd weapons to the ground,
And hear the sentence of your moved prince.
Three civil brawls, bred of an airy word,
By thee, old Capulet, and Montague,
Have thrice disturb'd the quiet of our streets,
And made Verona's ancient citizens
Cast by their grave beseeming ornaments,
To wield old partisans, in hands as old,
Canker'd with peace, to part your canker'd hate:
If ever you disturb our streets again,
Your lives shall pay the forfeit of the peace.
For this time, all the rest depart away:
You Capulet; shall go along with me:
And, Montague, come you this afternoon,
To know our further pleasure in this case,
To old Free-town, our common judgment-place.
Once more, on pain of death, all men depart.

Exeunt all but MONTAGUE, LADY MONTAGUE, and BENVOLIO

MONTAGUE

Who set this ancient quarrel new abroach?
Speak, nephew, were you by when it began?

BENVOLIO

Here were the servants of your adversary,
And yours, close fighting ere I did approach:
I drew to part them: in the instant came
The fiery Tybalt, with his sword prepared,
Which, as he breathed defiance to my ears,
He swung about his head and cut the winds,
Who nothing hurt withal hiss'd him in scorn:
While we were interchanging thrusts and blows,
Came more and more and fought on part and part,
Till the prince came, who parted either part.

LADY MONTAGUE

O, where is Romeo? saw you him to-day?
Right glad I am he was not at this fray.

BENVOLIO

Madam, an hour before the worshipp'd sun
Peer'd forth the golden window of the east,
A troubled mind drave me to walk abroad;
Where, underneath the grove of sycamore
That westward rooteth from the city's side,
So early walking did I see your son:
Towards him I made, but he was ware of me
And stole into the covert of the wood:
I, measuring his affections by my own,
That most are busied when they're most alone,
Pursued my humour not pursuing his,
And gladly shunn'd who gladly fled from me.

MONTAGUE

Many a morning hath he there been seen,
With tears augmenting the fresh morning dew.
Adding to clouds more clouds with his deep sighs;
But all so soon as the all-cheering sun
Should in the furthest east begin to draw
The shady curtains from Aurora's bed,
Away from the light steals home my heavy son,
And private in his chamber pens himself,
Shuts up his windows, locks far daylight out
And makes himself an artificial night:
Black and portentous must this humour prove,
Unless good counsel may the cause remove.

BENVOLIO

My noble uncle, do you know the cause?

MONTAGUE

I neither know it nor can learn of him.

BENVOLIO

Have you importuned him by any means?

MONTAGUE

Both by myself and many other friends:
But he, his own affections' counsellor,
Is to himself--I will not say how true--
But to himself so secret and so close,
So far from sounding and discovery,
As is the bud bit with an envious worm,
Ere he can spread his sweet leaves to the air,
Or dedicate his beauty to the sun.
Could we but learn from whence his sorrows grow.
We would as willingly give cure as know.

Enter ROMEO

BENVOLIO

See, where he comes: so please you, step aside;
I'll know his grievance, or be much denied.

MONTAGUE

I would thou wert so happy by thy stay,
To hear true shrift. Come, madam, let's away.

Exeunt MONTAGUE and LADY MONTAGUE

BENVOLIO

Good-morrow, cousin.

ROMEO

Is the day so young?

BENVOLIO

But new struck nine.

ROMEO

Ay me! sad hours seem long.
Was that my father that went hence so fast?

BENVOLIO

It was. What sadness lengthens Romeo's hours?

ROMEO

Not having that, which, having, makes them short.

BENVOLIO

In love?

ROMEO

Out--

BENVOLIO

Of love?

ROMEO

Out of her favour, where I am in love.

BENVOLIO

Alas, that love, so gentle in his view,
Should be so tyrannous and rough in proof!

ROMEO

Alas, that love, whose view is muffled still,
Should, without eyes, see pathways to his will!
Where shall we dine? O me! What fray was here?
Yet tell me not, for I have heard it all.
Here's much to do with hate, but more with love.
Why, then, O brawling love! O loving hate!
O any thing, of nothing first create!
O heavy lightness! serious vanity!
Mis-shapen chaos of well-seeming forms!
Feather of lead, bright smoke, cold fire,
sick health!
Still-waking sleep, that is not what it is!
This love feel I, that feel no love in this.
Dost thou not laugh?

BENVOLIO

No, coz, I rather weep.

ROMEO

Good heart, at what?

BENVOLIO

At thy good heart's oppression.

ROMEO

Why, such is love's transgression.
Griefs of mine own lie heavy in my breast,
Which thou wilt propagate, to have it prest
With more of thine: this love that thou hast shown
Doth add more grief to too much of mine own.
Love is a smoke raised with the fume of sighs;
Being purged, a fire sparkling in lovers' eyes;
Being vex'd a sea nourish'd with lovers' tears:
What is it else? a madness most discreet,
A choking gall and a preserving sweet.
Farewell, my coz.

BENVOLIO

Soft! I will go along;
An if you leave me so, you do me wrong.

ROMEO

Tut, I have lost myself; I am not here;
This is not Romeo, he's some other where.

BENVOLIO

Tell me in sadness, who is that you love.

ROMEO

What, shall I groan and tell thee?

BENVOLIO

Groan! why, no.
But sadly tell me who.

ROMEO

Bid a sick man in sadness make his will:
Ah, word ill urged to one that is so ill!
In sadness, cousin, I do love a woman.

BENVOLIO

I aim'd so near, when I supposed you loved.

ROMEO

A right good mark-man! And she's fair I love.

BENVOLIO

A right fair mark, fair coz, is soonest hit.

ROMEO

Well, in that hit you miss: she'll not be hit
With Cupid's arrow; she hath Dian's wit;
And, in strong proof of chastity well arm'd,
From love's weak childish bow she lives unharm'd.
She will not stay the siege of loving terms,
Nor bide the encounter of assailing eyes,
Nor ope her lap to saint-seducing gold:
O, she is rich in beauty, only poor,
That when she dies with beauty dies her store.

BENVOLIO

Then she hath sworn that she will still live chaste?

ROMEO

She hath, and in that sparing makes huge waste,
For beauty starved with her severity
Cuts beauty off from all posterity.
She is too fair, too wise, wisely too fair,
To merit bliss by making me despair:
She hath forsworn to love, and in that vow
Do I live dead that live to tell it now.

BENVOLIO

Be ruled by me, forget to think of her.

ROMEO

O, teach me how I should forget to think.

BENVOLIO

By giving liberty unto thine eyes;
Examine other beauties.

ROMEO

'Tis the way
To call hers exquisite, in question more:
These happy masks that kiss fair ladies' brows
Being black put us in mind they hide the fair;
He that is strucken blind cannot forget
The precious treasure of his eyesight lost:
Show me a mistress that is passing fair,
What doth her beauty serve, but as a note
Where I may read who pass'd that passing fair?
Farewell: thou canst not teach me to forget.

BENVOLIO

I'll pay that doctrine, or else die in debt.

Exeunt


Point proven. Highlight between "To test my theory..." and "Point proven." and CnP into a word document (or quote this post) if you don't believe me. You can pretty much fit a tome of information and no one will even see it unless they quote you or CnP into a word document.

Also, back in the old version, many languages for the board were available for selection, especially Japanese. Now it's just British English. :o
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Default font size sure has gotten tiny...
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 Post subject: Re: Forum software / theme bugs thread
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sikraiken wrote:
Looks good for the most part, a clearer separation between sticky and normal threads would be nice.

Agreed.

One thing I noticed as part of this reply: the Quote button doesn't exist until you're logged in. I'm pretty sure the old version had it there even if you weren't logged in. If you clicked it, it took you to the login screen and redirected you to the reply page.

So instead of:
See post -> hit Quote -> Login -> reply form

Now it's:
See post -> hit Reply (at top/bottom of page) -> Login -> redirected to reply form, but obviously it doesn't have the quote, so -> back to thread -> refresh -> scroll down to click on Quote -> reply form

(or alternatively, put the username and text on the clipboard before hitting Reply, then manually format the quote, I guess).

Although I'm probably weird because I log out whenever I close my browser (automatically clear everything, including cookies).


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