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 Post subject: Slap Fight/Alcon
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:06 am 


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3 lives, Normal/Medium difficulty, extends at 30K and then every 100K. Do not use the "no shooting trick" (start the game, play for certain amounts of time without shooting; this leads to free power, level warping, etc).
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Please post scores in this format:
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GAME or MODE or VERSION or BLEH
NAME - SCORE - AREA - AUTOFIRE - PLATFORM


Please indicate which emulator build/program version or which release/console you may have used. Unsure of differences between versions at this time. Tracking AREA is going to be hard in the arcade version, I think.
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Arcade version
Without autofire
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1.  Van_Dammesque  - 1,771,830 - 255 - No  - MAME v0.147 (bootleg set 3) [loop 5]
2.  Alcon          - 1,422,950 - 255 - No  - PCB  (Alcon, US) [loop 4] {TG SETTINGS, UNSORTED}
3.  DEL            - 1,080,000 - 255 - No  - PCB  [loop 3]
4.  amerrykan      - 1,025,060 - 206 - No  - PCB  (Alcon, US) [loop 2]
5.  Shatterhand    -   750 990 - 169 - No  - MAME
6.  volaju         -   388.660 - 131 - No  - GroovyMAME v0.169 (Alcon, US)
7.  CHI            -   328,870 -  81 - No  - MAME
8.  Renard         -   322,920 - 131 - No  - PCB  [loop 2]
9.  Akraten        -   234,540 -  67 - No  - PCB
10. iast           -   113,450 -  38 - No  - ShmupMAME v4.2

With autofire
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1.  Perikles       - 2,102,080 - 255 - Yes - ShmupMAME v4.2 (Japan set 1) [loop 5]
2.  unclechicken   - 1,001,240 - ??? - ??? - MAME (bootleg set 1?) [loop 2]
3.  llaoyllakcuf   -   607,900 - 162 - ??? - PCB? [loop 2]
4.  Domino         -   563,060 - 167 - ??? - PCB? [loop 2]
5.  neorichieb1971 -   101,000 -  40 - ??? - ????

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Mega Drive version
Slap Fight
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1.  CHI            - 9,999,999 -  9-67 - Yes - Kega Fusion
2.  Perikles       - 9,999,999 -  9-56 - Yes - Cart+????
3.  RFP            - 6,560,330 -  6-76 - Yes - Cart+Genesis model 2
4.  Van_Dammesque  - 5,149,210 -  9-80 - Yes - Kega Fusion v3.6
5.  FSR            - 3,350,580 -  7-08 - Yes - Unknown emulator?
6.  PlasmaBlooD    - 2,308,050 -  6-59 - Yes - Some MD+cart
7.  incognoscente  - 1,818,720 -  5-15 - Yes - Unknown emulator
8.  SFKhoa         - 1,596,960 -  4-27 - Yes - Unknown emulator
9.  RiverRaider    - 1,380,780 -  3-10 - Yes - ????


Slap Fight MD
Code:
1.  Perikles       – 9,999,999 – 13-84 – Yes - Cart+????
2.  CIT            - 6,001,910 -  6-67 - Yes - Wondermega (RG-M1)
3.  CHI            - 3,965,320 -  6-37 - Yes - Kega Fusion
4.  SFKhoa         - 1,999,130 -  4-38 - Yes - Unknown emulator
5.  Kaiser         - 1,426,040 -  4-12 - Yes - Unknown emulator
6.  incognoscente  -   904,370 -  2-81 - Yes - Unknown emulator
7.  Akraten        -   743,220 -  2-65 - Yes - Mega Drive model 1
8.  Skykid         -   707,760 -  2-70 - Yes - Mega Drive
9.  RiverRaider    -   611,180 -  2-18 - Yes - ????
10. Renard         -   325,900 -  1-73 - Yes - Genesis model 1
11. Turrican       -   287,030 -  1-73 - Yes - ????

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Arcade counterstop with autofire (PCB recording)
Arcade counterstop without autofire (MAME32 0.56 recording, bootleg set 1)
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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:19 pm 



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The arcade version only lists area (stops counting at 255) not 1-xx etc. Some people including myself have referred to loop number once past 255 (i.e 4th loop on my score).

I'm happy to offer any more clarification or tips as this is my favourite game of all time.


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:32 am 


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amerrykan - 836,210 - 174 - NO - PCB (Alcon, US)

I was showing off my Alcon video on IRC today, and Despatche encouraged me to participate here, but I was using the first life pacifist tricks to eek out some extra points.

I went out to the garage and tried again without warping. Three games in, I caught a good run, got a little further and nearly matched my earlier score (just 30k shy), so improvement is definitely possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:47 am 


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Love the way you set up the op. The autofire no/yes distinction is a great idea, and that makes sense to rule out the no-shot trick. Love the poster image! And some really nice scores here.
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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:39 am 


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amerrykan - 1,005,990 - 178 - NO - PCB (Alcon, US)

At this rate, I should be able to achieve first place somewhere during the third loop.


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:54 pm 


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I played a few games this morning

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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:14 am 


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I tossed at least four lives away on a bad restart position in the hexagon area. I can do a lot better.

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amerrykan - 1,025,060 - 206 - NO - PCB (Alcon, US)
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edit: also it's fucken cold out in the garage and my trigger fingers wanted to seize up while pounding away on the three-segment boss half-way through the loop.


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:36 am 


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Renard - 322,920 - 131 - NO - PCB

this game is an absolute rush! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:04 am 



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renardqueenston wrote:
Renard - 322,920 - 131 - NO - PCB

this game is an absolute rush! :)


Yep. I love this game so much, takes me into calm / trance like mind states that I've not experienced very often (if ever) in any other games. By far my arcade game all time. Once you do the 1st loop it's just a matter of practice before you can get to 3 or 4 loops, and a bit of luck getting through the final boss approach once it speeds up.

I still can't beat the final boss using shot regularly, though, so a death in the final approach means it's nearly always game over. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:41 pm 


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first time playing the MD arrange version, this is awesome! a really great expansion on the original formula.

Renard - 325,900 - 1-73 - YES - Genesis Model 1


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:46 am 



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I just didn't get into the MD version, I don't like the addition of flying enemies :shock:.


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
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Only able to put in an hour or two so far but this is a sweet little game, like Xevious and Gradius hooked up and their son was too cool to hang out with all the cool kids.

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iast - 113,450 - 1-38 - No - ShumpMAME v4.2

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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:23 pm 



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Please strike Alcon's 1.5 million from the record, the self-confessed evidence of previous posts and this you tube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMqdqFoz ... 8C&index=2
Shows he used the no-shooting trick which is banned!

I have scored 995000 so far without the trick and I can beat it soon, watch this space :)
Alcon has no finesse with regards to this game and the nuances go above his head, YES THIS IS FIGHTING TALK, haha!

No insult intended as it is said in jest, but I will show a NEW way to play this game!


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:27 pm 


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Somehow I completely missed iast's score, and the whole situation with Alcon's score from forever ago.
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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
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Arcade Version:

1,237,780 - 3-255 - No - MAME 0.147 (bootleg set 3)

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The .inp file is available and please check out my youtube video of this score: http://www.youtube.com/user/vandammesque

If you watch I messed up at the end, and so could have went onto a better score!


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
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Arcade Version:

1,342,400 - 3-?? - No - MAME 0.147 (bootleg set 3) [area max]
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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
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Arcade Version:

1,411,470 - 4-?? - No - MAME 0.147 (bootleg set 3) [area max]
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The .inp file is available!
It is getting to become impossible when you die, the bullets are fast and often!


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
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Youtube video of the above score:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHLj0dKhsec


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
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Arcade Version:

1,771,830 - 5-?? - No - MAME 0.147 (bootleg set 3) [area max]

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The .inp file is available!
A nice clear of the 4 (or 3rd?) loop boss with single shot too (1.3 million)!


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
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Mega Drive (Original Slap Fight) Version:

5,149,210 - 9-80 - Yes - Emulator-K Fusion 3.6
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Compared to the arcade the Mega Drive version is quite a faithful representation but the slight differences make it very very easy!
By using auto-fire I can defeat the last boss with only shot and no wings BEFORE one of its bullets fires!
The shields last forever; whereas the arcade it fades away to no protection.

The pace of the bullets are almost twice as slow when looping than the arcade.
When looped the 'congratulations' text appears, this makes the enemies in that region to be very docile (obviously becasue the text impedes the view the programmers decided to make them that way).

At one point I had 31 lives!

I do not know if this has been mentioned here but the above score was not the end of the game, only me playing it!
I noticed that at loop 9 the speed of the bullets goes back to the 1st loop! I could not be bothered to carry on, I did do a save state so I can see how a max. score can be done. Or redo if someone beats my record!


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:00 am 



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Van_Dammesque wrote:
Arcade Version:

1,771,830 - 5-?? - No - MAME 0.147 (bootleg set 3) [area max]

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The .inp file is available!
A nice clear of the 4 (or 3rd?) loop boss with single shot too (1.3 million)!


Hey! Congrats on that score, and getting to the 5th loop, I'm genuinely impressed.

Congrats on joining the 1.5 million club, two years later...

I haven't played in a while, and only play TG settings, on an arcade machine.

& PS. 1,422,950 - 4-255 - No - PCB. Today, got photos.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:44 am 


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Want to split that up. Can I get those TG settings? They're not in this list I have...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:20 pm 


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CHI - 1,119,850 - 3-54 - Yes - Kega Fusion


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:05 am 


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Akraten - 743,220 - 2-65 - yes - Mega Drive model 1


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Skykid - 707,760 - 2-70 - Yes - Mega Drive

First entry. Will try to get to that 3rd loop.
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Slap Fight MD
CHI - 2,473,260 - 4-77 - Yes - Kega Fusion


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Slap Fight (mega drive version)
CHI - 3,924,270 - 7-68 - Yes - Kega Fusion


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:18 pm 


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I'm not done with this game yet :twisted:

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CHI - 6,061,450 - 7-61 - Yes - Kega Fusion
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:13 pm 


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Slap Fight (mega drive version)
CHI - 9,999,999 - 11-56 - Yes - Kega Fusion


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Messed up on the scoring on loop 9 and 10, could've got the counter stop before loop 11 :roll:
Anyways, I'm done with this version :wink:
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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:28 pm 


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Dood you are murdering this game!
good job!


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 Post subject: Re: Slap Fight/Alcon [Arcade/Mega Drive/Others]
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:33 am 


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AKRATEN wrote:
Dood you are murdering this game!
good job!

Cheers dood :mrgreen:

I thought i do some footage to share...
First Loop: http://youtu.be/71DdGdm931w was thinking about a no-miss but my mind wondered-off due to first credit of the evening :oops:
Counter Stop: http://youtu.be/x4YNxyvRgCQ sitting there for 2 hours, i actually did better than i expected :twisted:
Once counter stopped, each enemy you kill and each star you collect you'll get an extra life :roll:

Slap Fight (mega drive version)
CHI - 9,999,999 - 9-67 - Yes - Kega Fusion


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One down, two to go :idea:
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