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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:10 pm 


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not powering up before Fatty Glutton


At all, or do you just avoid the level-up to the laser? I'm guessing this is for rank control, but I'd assumed it was mainly the wave shot that increased the rank noticeably. I'd be interested in trying out your method. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:32 pm 


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When I first played this game, I wondered if to power up before Fatty Gluton or not too... back then I wouldn't do.
However I think it is best to power up and just survive the boss. Of course this is harder, but the extra power ups seem worth it.

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I'm guessing this is for rank control,

it's because your laser shot is pretty poor against bosses, and takes a long time to take the boss down, while if you keep the standard shot at its highest level, the boss goes down at a more normal time.
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:56 pm 


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Ah, yeah, good call. I've never tried hanging back on the power-ups before - I normally just handle the more fiddly boss battles patiently. The three-bullet spread would clearly take down the likes of Glutton in no time, though. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:43 pm 


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It's mainly because I have practiced and practiced at Fatty Glutton, with the highest amount of power-ups you will have at the time you fight him (which is roughly LV5 laser, one or two before wave), and the margin of error is so large that the boss battle is way too much a battle of attrition.

With bosses like Keen Bayonet and Iron Hammer, this is ok, because the bosses' patterns are far easier to dodge (and you can damage them quickly if you point-blank missile spam them), but Fatty Glutton's attack is just too hard to dodge consistently, unless Smraedis has some tricks up his sleeve he's willing to share! The way I see it, when I had my normal shot powered up as far as it could (3-way, red-color), Fatty Glutton went down in seconds, and I still managed to get the Wave power-up before I finished the game, which kept the rank more or less manageable. It helps that Zone X is fairly simple, and gives you a lot of room to maneuver (because it's a Cosmic Airway stage), and its version of Octopus is a total push-over. Other zones (like the ones that play Capt. Neo) are veritable death-traps without the Wave powerup.

And thanks for the congrats! I'm really happy I managed to get through the game without dying - I was at work at the time, so I wasn't even expecting such a good run! If I was at home I would have been jamming the volume all the way up, but alas.
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:52 am 


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unless Smraedis has some tricks up his sleeve he's willing to share!


I haven't played the original version for a while, so I'm not sure if his movements are exactly the same, but I've been practicing your route in Super Darius, and have noticed that if you move towards Fatty Glutton, he backs off. If you time it so that you're pushing him to the right between his shots, and then moving back and shooting the small fish as it comes out, you have a lot more space and time to dodge the spread. (In Super Darius, if you just hang back to the left, he dominates the screen and the spread is always right in your face - Octopus is tough for the same reason.)

It makes the battle so much easier that you'd probably have no problem doing it with the laser, though I did try your method of sticking with the red missiles this time, heh. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:01 pm 


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Super Darius
YOG - 5,189,150 - ALL - ABDHMRX - ON

A slight improvement on my last score. It's a fun route, but I'm not overly keen on tackling stage X and Octopus with the laser. The stage gets really hectic towards the end, at least if you're unfamiliar with it (I think I've only ever gone to Zs and Vs!), and Octopus is certainly no pushover in this version! :P

Forgive me if I post another score soon - I want to try this again, fully powered up.


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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:04 am 


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I'm trying that out right now, and if you're up in Fatty Glutton's grill, he seems to move back towards the right of the screen. However, his fish spread still has a lot of chance hitting you...

Unless, that is, you are underneath Fatty Glutton. And I mean directly underneath. I'm trying out a bit of a new strategy right now - I'll have to post the results when I get it down consistently. Keeping myself from powering up is always the most annoying thing in Darius, but if there's a way around it, that'd be pretty sweet. We'll see!

Great score! I guess Super Darius gives you a lot more opportunity for scoring, or you got extremely lucky with the bonus balls! Or, the extremely likely possibility that I suck at scoring at this game : p
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:45 am 


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Hehe, I did get one max-value bonus ball, but only picked up about 4-5 in total, and most of them were pretty low. I got most of the bonuses for killing groups of enemies, though, until Zone X! But yeah, the scoring is probably different. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:40 am 


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Klatrymadon wrote:
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YOG - 5,189,150 - ALL - ABDHMRX - ON


Format pls.
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:15 pm 


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Oh aye, sorry!

Super Darius - PCE-CD - NO
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:51 pm 


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The format is actually like this now:


DARIUS - ARCADE/MAME
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And I'm reposting because tinotormed probably missed it on the last page ;_;
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:22 pm 


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Thanks, Ing! Just took the same route and one-lifed it to Octopus with the wave shot, but ended up with about half a million less than last time. I guess I did get lucky with the scoring! :P


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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 7:34 am 


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I should be studying for my exams tomorrow but instead I'll post my score, lol....'

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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:46 pm 


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Darius Alpha - PCE

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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:50 pm 


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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:46 pm 


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Sure why not. Played this for a couple of hours for the tournament to check it out.

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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:47 am 


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^Nice

I should upload mine later. Everyone seems to take that course that ends with X, why is that? Is it easier/higher scoring? The top course was a bitch because of the powerup distribution.
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:42 am 


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X's final stage and boss are markedly easier than the other final stages and bosses. Octopus-X goes down without much a fight.
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:22 am 


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I like how they just call it "octopus" since they ran out of cool name ideas.

On top of being easier the scoarboard suggests it's also quite a bit higher scoring than the Great Thing course I took. I think I'll give it a go just to see if I can improve my score a bit.
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:15 pm 


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No it seems that the Great Thing route has the highest scoring potential in the game because you can get over 7.7 million by checkpoint milking the final boss for over half an hour.
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:06 pm 


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Edit: Fixed submission format

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Wow this course is a fucking joke. It's literally like novice mode compared to the Great Thing clear and gives you over 4 million without any milking, where Z course only gives you 3.5 And what the fuck is up with that Octopus, he's easier than the damn King Fossil is.

This may be my highest score but I'm way prouder of the Z clear, that shit was brutal.
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:18 pm 


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Nice score. Octopus should be renamed Octopussy.
Definitely be proud of the hard clear! :)

Also, remember to put the score in the correct format as well.
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:36 am 


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X course is dumb.

And now I am faced with a decision. Do I continue to maximize my X score in order to take number 1 (Better luck with white orbs and less mistakes on enemy waves would give me just enough I think) OR do I learn to milk Great Thing in my beloved Z course to kick things to the next level.

I also kind of want to start learning Darius Extra, considering that is the version they have at my arcade of choice, Taito Hey!.

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No it seems that the Great Thing route has the highest scoring potential in the game because you can get over 7.7 million by checkpoint milking the final boss for over half an hour.


You wouldn't happen to have access to a superplay that demonstrates the GT milking method would you?
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
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ACSeraph wrote:
X course is dumb.


Ikr?

Btw, updated. ...aaaaaand roadrunner has been eliminated from the Darius MAME table. Sorry boy, but if you want to go back to the tables, you have to keep playing for score.
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:56 am 


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Oh damn sorry I just noticed I typed my route incorrectly. This is the correct submission:

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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
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I'm fairly certain GT milking is just milking the drill missiles it shoots and the endless cube barrage.
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I figured as much, but that's easier said than done. I'm wondering if there's some sort of relatively safe positioning for the milking like there is with Octopussy, or if you have to stay moving constantly. I'll be doing some testing tonight on it for sure. I can't stand an X course being at the top of the western scoreboard <_<
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You wouldn't happen to have access to a superplay that demonstrates the GT milking method would you?


I sure have!
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I sure have!
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All credit goes to saucykobold.


Awwwww yea! 8)

Major thanks for this, I'll try to put it to good use. I tried milking strategies for about 30 minutes last night but couldn't get anywhere, because the killer whales always fuck me over. It does give a shitload of points for sure, even half ass-ed scrub milking gives about 100k. It's gonna take more than that to top an X score though, so I've gotta learn to do it right.
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 Post subject: Re: Darius (new thread)
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Saw this thread active recently and decided to give it a go myself. Long time coming to really play this game. I don't even remember submitting my previous score. Anyway awesome game! After smashing my head against the easy all top-route, ending at Fatty Glutton every time. I decided to go d,d, then all up and got the clear on the first go Crazy... will play more for sure.

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