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 Post subject: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:12 am 


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NOTE: I'll be handling both tables, the same thing that moozooh does for both BWR games. Oh, and scores are truncated after 20 entries.

NEWS: Added 'wait' rule for Eden's Aegis.
(8/19/2013) Dynamic scoreboard is officially implemented for this board.

Rules:

- Strictly 1 credit only and no continues.
- Waiting, autoguard, autofire and changing bullet colors are allowed.
- Replays are required for #1 scores.
- The scoreboards are for following versions only (Aegis 1.11 and Edge 1.31 or 1.2). Older versions will be disqualified.
- Indicate what game and mode you are playing.
- Pls. indicate if you are playing with 'wait' on Eden's Aegis.

Eden's Edge 1.31:
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/dl/winnt/game/se398222.html

Eden's Edge 1.21:
http://www.2shared.com/file/EKf1UESQ/eden121.html

Eden's Aegis 1.11:
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/dl/winnt/game/se442605.html

Eden's Edge v1.31

Post scores in this format:
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Name & Score & Stage & Guard & Class










Eden's Edge v1.21

Post scores in this format:
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Name & Score & Stage & Guard & Class










Eden's Aegis

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Name & Score & Stage & Guard & Character

NOTE: Switching between wait ON/OFF affects scoring.



















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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:33 am 


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Everything's sorted now. If you think I missed something, pls. post here.
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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Eden's Edge v1.31 - Heaven
tinotormed - 46,579,390 - ALL - ON - Trace
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:01 am 


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Eden's Edge - HELL
tinotormed - 36,206,690 - ALL - ON - Trace
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It's about time I played this crazier HELL mode. 1 life remaining in stock, phew!
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:19 am 


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tinotormed wrote:
Everything's sorted now. If you think I missed something, pls. post here.

check Eden's Edge Original table, last places. I'll post my not-so-hi-score soon :)

Heh, my first play:
Eden's Edge Heaven Mode
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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astroid wrote:
check Eden's Edge Original table, last places. I'll post my not-so-hi-score soon :)


Good score, astroid! keep 'em coming! Oh and thanks for the reminder, it seems I missed Aru-san's HELL score and the misplaced scores that AAP left unfixed.

And for Aru-san, in your hell play, pls. mention what shot type you used.
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:19 pm 


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I'm not sure if you allow Wait/Slow, which is on by default and makes the game a VERY different experience, so pick whichever you prefer! And thanks for taking over the table :)

Eden's Aegis - Original (Wait)
Aliquantic - 138,795,570 - ALL - ON - Maple

Eden's Aegis - Original (No Wait)
Aliquantic - 68,086,440 - ALL - ON - Maple

I'll admit I much prefer playing without Wait and only did one credit with it, but it's difficult to find much motivation when there's such a huge score difference involved :|


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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:21 pm 


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Aliquantic wrote:
I'm not sure if you allow Wait/Slow, which is on by default and makes the game a VERY different experience, so pick whichever you prefer! And thanks for taking over the table :)


Dunno, but i'll prefer submitting scores with wait on. And damn, what a score! How'd you managed to get through the game with wait on?
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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Despatche wrote:
Lovely thread, everyone needs to do the "Previous thread/s: X" thing. Maybe I'll submit something, but I still don't understand x.x's games very well. Can I get a few pointers for both games? No serious strategy, just things I should be doing.


Eden's Edge plays a lot like Mushihimesama and EspGaluda, as both involve bullet canceling and chaining. And for Eden's Aegis:
LtC from YouTube wrote:
Compared to the difficulty of previous x.x's games it's a little harder but the amount of lives you get in it is just ridiculous. The game seems to be somewhat mixture of CAVE's Mushihimesama, ESP.Galuda and ESP.Rade.
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:31 pm 


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Despatche, have a look on the BBS for much better replays, like this at 215m or so on Original :)

Tinotormed, the problem is that Wait is On by default (and the majority of scores on the BBS are done with Wait), so you'll need to specify things very clearly, and/or separate it like with Guard (in my experience Wait changes the game a lot more than Guard). Oh, and check your table, my 138m one was done with Wait on.


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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:33 pm 


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Aliquantic wrote:
Tinotormed, the problem is that Wait is On by default (and the majority of scores on the BBS are done with Wait), so you'll need to specify things very clearly, and/or separate it like with Guard (in my experience Wait changes the game a lot more than Guard). Oh, and check your table, my 138m one was done with Wait on.


Nope, either you use wait on or off, the tables are combined into one so I do not want to indicate 'wait' there. Therefore, it's up to you whether you like to use it or not, as mentioned in the rule above. And just like Plasmo's threads, even when there is no 'all defaults' indicated, you have to play with 'all defaults'. Oh, and did I mention that you have to provide a replay file of yours when you submit a #1 score.
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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Eden's Edge - Heaven
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Played this again, but this time with few improvements.
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:58 am 


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Dreadful replay due to the #1 clause, but Original is too dull with Wait for me to improve it :roll: I might do something for Hell though...


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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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I definitely agree that Wait and No Wait need different scoreboards. The scoring potential may be the same, but the chance of doing it without wait is a lot lower. And it's like a different game between Wait and no Wait.


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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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Chaos Phoenixma wrote:
I definitely agree that Wait and No Wait need different scoreboards. The scoring potential may be the same, but the chance of doing it without wait is a lot lower. And it's like a different game between Wait and no Wait.


Like I said, I don't indicate 'Wait' scores here, so it's up to you if you want 'Wait' or not. But if you want better scores, play with 'DEFAULT Settings', as in 'Wait' on.

EDIT: Grrr, that's it. I'm adding a 'wait' on your score submission indication in case you people used it. The reason why I had no idea about this is because the previous maintainer of Eden's Aegis wasn't able to explain the score format clearly when he maintained it during his last days here. So there, I decided to add that detail in case you have it.
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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Eden's Edge v1.31 - Heaven
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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Thank you for splitting the tables :) Resubmitting this with attendant replay... fairly weak run otherwise with poor boss performances and way too much autoguard, but that's to be expected really! I should be able to improve it still...

Eden's Aegis - Original (No Wait)
Aliquantic - 68,086,440 - ALL - ON - Maple


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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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Aliquantic wrote:
Thank you for splitting the tables :)


No prob. If you still do, I should have gone to another web design school.

Anyways, new score for Eden's Edge

Eden's Edge - Hell
tinotormed - 42,712,220 - ALL - ON - Formation

Finally managed to finish Hell with 2 lives left. It's too hard to get to the TLB without dying since you should not mess yourself up the entire game. OH well.
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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erm, my Eden's Aegis accel mode has guard on/wait off :p

(I need to play this game again but have also lots of other games to play too :p)
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erm, my Eden's Aegis accel mode has guard on/wait off :p

(I need to play this game again but have also lots of other games to play too :p)


Fixed.
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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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Game is pretty fun so far. I noticed on a video they changed the music. Do you guys know how to do that? Is there any way to make the game bigger too?

Also, am I missing something to the scoring or are there HUGE end game bonus' or something?
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The scoring is a counter multiplier basically (lives are only worth 3m apiece, and end of stage bonuses aren't huge either), so scores get pretty silly on stage 5 if you can hold a high counter, especially given how much popcorn there is... but auto guarding kills a third of your counter, and dying kills it period. Bombing can also be used to keep up your chain and get more counters, though I'm not sure about the ideal windows of opportunity to do that... and do expect the occasional suicide if you're low on bombs at the start of a stage, especially stage 5.


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Eden's Aegis - Hell
Medrea - 141755580 - All! - Guard ON/Wait ON - Eve


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Medrea wrote:
141,755,580

Hell Mode

Wait ON

Edens AEGIS

Eve

I would post replay or video but unfortunately the replay is broken and has me continuously eating bullets in the face on stage 3. So ehre is a picture of the replay screen.

http://twitpic.com/5a82l6

Come at me bro. Would like to see anybody break 150m. Not getting hit on the 5th stage and 4th stage really inflates that combo. 6k multipliers for the win.


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 Post subject: Re: Eden's Edge & Eden's Aegis (new thread)
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Eden's Aegis - Hell
Medrea - 141755580 - All! - Guard ON/Wait ON - Eve


Better! :D Oh, about your replay problem, why does it desync? Is it either you're using old specs or you do not have a modern computer? If it's not, it is recommended that you do so to prevent desync problems, or better yet record it using a screen recorder software. And for that recorder, I meant Fraps or DivX or any. Like I do, while playing X.X games, I record the whole thing using Fraps while the replay is saved. I am accepting your score for now until you can improve it with a better replay.
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Yeah it is totally on a modern computer. I am not sure why it desyncs but it does in various places throughout the replay. Multiplier nature of the game kind of makes repeats of ridiculously silly scores difficult but I guess Ill fraps the next time I play instead of depending on the replay.

I think like, 40 percent of my score came at the end of stage 5. When you are swarmed with all of those weak enemies for a really long time? Yeah I didnt get hit in any of that which is rare for me, but the scoring opportunity chance there is really incredible. It basically divides the games score into two plateau's, a game where you got hit in stage 5 swarm rush, and games you didnt.


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Eden's Edge - Doom
Jaimers - 75,759,480 - ALL! - ON - Formation

Eden's Aegis - Hell
Jaimers - 110,574,970 - ALL! - Guard ON/Wait OFF - Ridmie

Score was pretty crappy duo to fucking up stage 5 but it got the wait off ALL! clear so I'm happy.

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Scores updated this week, with a damn sick score from Chirpy13!
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