Did you have a point to make...? I never said people shouldn't put the games they think are best on their list (which is what I did)
I just thought it's funny after seeing your top that you're the one talking about the cave bias and people should play more -other- games. Nothing more.
Yeah, I'm sure Perikles is just a damn hipster... do you really think you should take such a silly route to defend CAVE who has 1/3 of the game represented...? FWIW I'm a CAVE fan easily, they made some of the best games ever in any genre. I'm just not a mindless fanboy which you are trying awfully hard to come across as right now.
Did I go against what perikles said? The only thing I defend about Cave is that many of their games are indeed very good/top tier. My point is they've made a lot
of these good ones, Bananamatic refined it well: they've made enough different and good. That's why they're all over the lists every year.
I hope noone's saying people aren't trying "anything" else. But compared to exhausting CAVE's library how many do you think exhausts Taito's, Konami's, etc?
But is it as pleasing to grind taito and konami's libraries? are their games fit for the levels of entusiasm a Ketsui or a Futari can generate to a broad audience? Cave didn't just make a wide variety of good games, they've made very attractive games.
I'm not qualifying them as the Hollywood of shmups though, because most of their games are
good, stating otherwise would be hypocrisy. But no fanboyism whatsoever, I've played damn shmups for well over 30 years, I can tell that of course Cave deserve the awards.
Seems to have been a thing for many years already, the forums vote plenty of Cave and inevitably criticize the results, "blah blah blah too much Cave again" it's so damn hipster it's cringey, so I'm saying just give it a break there's good reasons why Cave's so present and popular, why not deal with it?
Understandable opinion but not everyone agrees that CAVE is better than everyone else by such an enormous amount. 18 games compared to others who have at most 4 represented. Some people don't even think CAVE is the best dev to begin with *gasp* hipters. I can't agree that history turned out the way it did because CAVE just happened to be that much better, either, that's really shortsighted, the genre in general just went out of style so CAVE that catered to hardcore players managed to survive. there's a lot more to shmups than doing things the CAVE way and preferring other kinds of shmups is still valid.
You didn't get the point yet, 'not everyone' and 'some' don't apply, and it's not about stating Cave made 'the best shmups period' either. Again whether you like it or not their status and weight is perfectly explainable by that combinantion of quality, accessibility, and NUMBERS.
I'd bet the 24th Top 25 will still have losts of Cave, unless they're dethroned by a great new prolific dev, or 2~3 that kind of create a new synergy/age for shmups.
Actually if that doesn't come to happen, there could be even MOAR Cave in the top.