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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:28 am 


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There's also a really good widescreen vert scrolling game called Score Rush that happens to be twin stick. Technically, D-Pad and right stick work best because it plays like a traditional bullet hell shmup where you can shoot 360 degrees, and D-Pad is better for those tap dodges...

And yeah, a lot of mainstream reviews compared it to Geometry Wars because the player ships looked similar and you could shoot 360 degrees. Otherwise, it plays nothing at all like Geometry Wars. Mainstream market does certainly seem to be more aware of twin stick games over conventional shmups.
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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:38 am 


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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:06 pm 


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I trust in Housemarque who developed the excellent titles "Outland", "Resogun" and "Super Stardust", so I'll look forward to this new one with joy...
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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:03 pm 


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Bump to request the thread title be updated to include 'PC'...
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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:18 am 


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Inglorious_B wrote:
Bump to request the thread title be updated to include 'PC'...


Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:19 am 


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I know right, it is so frustrating that the word "PC" is not a part of the thread title


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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:44 pm 


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Sumez wrote:
I know right, it is so frustrating that the word "PC" is not a part of the thread title


Especially as this is the main forum for shooting games in the English speaking West.

How much would it hurt the mods to do a little housekeeping and keep their threads relevant?
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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:48 pm 


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I'm furious. I will go post in the "little things that annoy you" thread right now. Or maybe I'll start one called "major grievances that also annoy you".


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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:48 pm 


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Sumez wrote:
I'm furious. I will go post in the "little things that annoy you" thread right now. Or maybe I'll start one called "major grievances that also annoy you".


So very typical of this forum.

Instead of a small and reasonable request being understood, you get to deal instead with some cocky little assh*le who thinks he knows better why the main thread for this game should show an incorrect list of platforms in the title.

Because obviously that's what any professional games website would do...
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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:27 pm 


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I think this might be the post he's referring to :D

Inglorious_B wrote:

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

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This isn't a professional website.
The mods aren't paid employees. This is just a forum where people come to chat.

Politely asking if a thread title can be updated either by the person who started it or a mod is totally fine.
Rolling your eyes because it still hasn't been done the next day, not so much.


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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:36 pm 


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Inglorious_B wrote:
you get to deal instead with some cocky little assh*le who thinks he knows better why the main thread for this game should show an incorrect list of platforms in the title.

Or maybe your own cocky remarks were really uncalled for in the first place. The thread title will probably be changed in due time, and it doesn't really matter.
I'm glad clippa caught the gist of it. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:52 pm 


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clippa wrote:

This isn't a professional website.
The mods aren't paid employees. This is just a forum where people come to chat.

Politely asking if a thread title can be updated either by the person who started it or a mod is totally fine.
Rolling your eyes because it still hasn't been done the next day, not so much.


Yeah like the mods don't read the 5 threads a day that get updated... :roll:

I think you've hit on an interesting point about this place though. Sure it's 'just a hangout' but it's also the only hangout.

Unfortunately for shooting game developers, they need their products to have some level of visibility here. I'm sure more than 1 of them wishes there was a bit more professionalism about this place.

Or a real alternative to it...
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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:23 pm 


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Inglorious_B wrote:
Yeah like the mods don't read the 5 threads a day that get updated... :roll:

I think you've hit on an interesting point about this place though. Sure it's 'just a hangout' but it's also the only hangout. Unfortunately for shooting game developers, they need their products to have some level of visibility here. I'm sure more than 1 of them wishes there was a bit more professionalism about this place. Or a real alternative to it...
As a developer I hate to inform you that this place got as far as it did EXACTLY because we never needed to be babysitted by the moderators. Also you can't demand mods to do anything, that's just acting really spoiled if you ask me. Now can we stop derailing this thread over a stupid title change? I for one am looking forward to this game because Super Stardust HD was amazing (Still need to play Resogun).
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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
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Inglorious_B wrote:
Yeah like the mods don't read the 5 threads a day that get updated... :roll:


I mean, you waited just 15 hours before rolling your eyes. That's less than a night's sleep and a work day. Even if a mod saw it, it's possible they just wanted to deal with it later. They're not paid, they generally do a good job, and with the amount of traffic and audience here waiting a few days wouldn't make a difference anyway.

Inglorious_B wrote:

Unfortunately for shooting game developers, they need their products to have some level of visibility here. I'm sure more than 1 of them wishes there was a bit more professionalism about this place.

Or a real alternative to it...


The developers that care are actually active here. If they really do wish there was more active updating of info about their games, then they're here doing it themselves.


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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:53 pm 


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This isn't a wiki or some sort of a definitive reference with a consistent format. This is a mostly unstructured forum where people simply chat about shmups in threads with titles like "Looking for more shmup." Nowhere is there a rule that states that all platforms must be listed in a thread's title, nor is there any need for there to be such a rule. If someone cares enough they can read the thread, or check the game's official website, or, you know, Wikipedia (which does list Windows).

Also I think you overestimate the influence of this forum on the fate of the genre. Many of the most successful shoot 'em ups receive little attention here or are outright derided. All the active members here combined are just a drop in the bucket even for fairly niche developers like CAVE.
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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PC, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:24 am 


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Thanks and respect to whoever changed the thread title.
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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PC, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:30 am 


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I think this game looks a lot like Alienation also by Housemarque? The colors, the attacks and the dashing looks the same but it seems the theme has changed from aliens to robots.

Or am I missing something?


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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PC, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
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As far as I understand it "Nex Machina: Death machine" is much faster paced as it doesn't involve Alienation's RPG elements (loot, upgradable/customizable equipment etc.) - so it basically moves more into the Super Stardust direction while having the "saving humans" element from Robotron 2084 (Defender, Resogun). Compare Alienation to Nex Machina.

Also I'm finding that "twin stick shooter" isn't all that descriptive - there is quite a difference in play style between those that shoot with the right stick vs. those that merely aim (on account of limited ammunition) with the right stick. Limiting the ammo makes it (e.g. Alienation) seem more closely related to an FPS/TPS game rather than an arcade game.


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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PC, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
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Inglorious_B wrote:
Thanks and respect to whoever changed the thread title.


It definitely wasn't me.
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 Post subject: Re: Nex Machina (Housemarque, PC, PS4, Twin Stick Shooter)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:11 pm 


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Will get this on both. The graphic style is a bit similar to Resogun, which is another good thing on top of how the gameplay looks.

The dash move looks cool, a bit like Nier Automata's (that JRPG does remind me of a twin-stick shooter at some moments, only with melee combat mixed in). I'd imagine dashing has a limited i-frame count, or might not protect against colliding with an enemy.

Housemarque is considering having Raw Thrills make an arcade cabinet release of NM.
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