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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Related Questions That Don't Deserve a Thread
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:09 pm 


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Shepardus wrote:
Looking for some recommendations!


- Raiden DX on Novice
- Salamander 2 (although there is heavy item RNG the game is quite static, you have to suicide YGW-style though)
- Sonic Wings series (3 and Limited are easy if you play the Japanese versions, 2 is a little harder, 1 is too bullshit for me to enjoy.)
- Storm Blade (pretty easy)
- Mahou Daisakusen series (Mahou and Shippu, international versions are easier)
- ESP Ra.De. (tough cookie)
- Rapid Hero
- Thunder Cross series
- Thunder Force AC
- Sengoku Ace + Sengoku Blade

I haven't cleared all of these but they seem like what you want.
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Related Questions That Don't Deserve a Thread
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:36 pm 


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KoopaTGR wrote:
Shepardus wrote:
Looking for some recommendations!


- Raiden DX on Novice
- Salamander 2 (although there is heavy item RNG the game is quite static, you have to suicide YGW-style though)
- Sonic Wings series (3 and Limited are easy if you play the Japanese versions, 2 is a little harder, 1 is too bullshit for me to enjoy.)
- Storm Blade (pretty easy)
- Mahou Daisakusen series (Mahou and Shippu, international versions are easier)
- ESP Ra.De. (tough cookie)
- Rapid Hero
- Thunder Cross series
- Thunder Force AC
- Sengoku Ace + Sengoku Blade

I haven't cleared all of these but they seem like what you want.

Shienryu Explosion on the PS2 fits the bill too. :P
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Related Questions That Don't Deserve a Thread
PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:17 am 


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Are you specifically looking for arcade games, Shepardus?

If so, I would agree with most of the choices offered already (with the possible exception of Mahou Daisakusen, the heavy RNG during boss fights is my biggest beef with the game) and add Air Buster, Dangerous Seed, Dragon Spirit, Exzisus, Fantasy Zone, Forgotten Worlds, Gun Hohki, Rabio Lepus and Side Arms (off the top of my head). Hyper Duel's bosses can be rather erratic, everything else fits perfectly, too. Dangerous Seed might look unwieldy but I'd imagine you appreciate the brevity and neat concepts in it. Forgotten Worlds has hectic bosses but you can much more easily plan around that due to the health bar than in something like, say, Mahou Daisakusen.

Gallop and Nostradamus are also fairly close to what you have in mind, those might be a trifle too hard for what you seek, though (that is, if we look at the "not particularly difficult", I smiled when you mentioned freaking Dragon Blaze as an example thereafter :mrgreen:).


Edit: I should definitely mention Game Tengoku which is like a hybrid between Psikyo (gameplay) and Parodius (visuals, theme, sort-of with the scoring). Not the biggest fan of it myself, you should most likely love it. Difficulty is probably somewhere on the lower end of the Psikyo 1-ALL spectrum.

If you like Caravan games you should also check out the second Macross game (the horizontal one), that is as short as short can be.
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I'd recommend Thunder Dragon 2, slightly harder than a Psikyo/Cave 1-All but not as difficult as a 2-All, smooth scoring too and I don't remember significant rng.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:10 pm 


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Thanks for all the recommendations! I hadn't thought of a good number of these!

KoopaTGR wrote:
- Raiden DX on Novice

How much easier is this than the expert course? And how does it compare to Raiden 1 (which I've also been considering putting some time into)?

Perikles wrote:
Are you specifically looking for arcade games, Shepardus?

Doesn't have to be, as long as it's something I can play.

Vludi wrote:
I'd recommend Thunder Dragon 2, slightly harder than a Psikyo/Cave 1-All but not as difficult as a 2-All, smooth scoring too and I don't remember significant rng.

I was actually just playing that last night! It's a bit harder than I was looking for but it is good fun.
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Related Questions That Don't Deserve a Thread
PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:33 pm 


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Shepardus wrote:

KoopaTGR wrote:
- Raiden DX on Novice

How much easier is this than the expert course? And how does it compare to Raiden 1 (which I've also been considering putting some time into)?


DX Novice is much easier than expert course; its mainly Raiden ii stages 1-5 with slower bullet speed, less enemies, and bullet patterns are easier. I also think it's a bit easier than Raiden I ( which i need to get the clear for already).

A survival clear won't take very long, but finding a good scoring route for getting the medals and pods will take longer.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:50 pm 


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Rapid Hero would definitely fit the bill. It feels fast paced as enemies dive in rapidly, your own shots feel intense and satisfying, but it's entirely memorizable shots (no dense, RNG dodge patterns) and is quite easy due to the number of bombs you get. It's a solid game and sounds like it's exactly what you're describing. Really, great gameplay, graphics, music. Only issue is it's fairly easy compared to other arcade shmups and only has one shot type to use, so if you just want a 1CC it may not hold your interest after you beat it.

For non arcade stuff, the Aleste games are also great fun. GG Aleste 2 is satisfyingly frantic on its highest difficulty and extremely fast paced, but is entirely reasonable to play difficulty-wise.
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Related Questions That Don't Deserve a Thread
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If Raiden V had Japanese voice acting, who do you think would be the seiyuus? I could imagine someone like Toshiyuki Morikawa voicing Max.


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Anybody have information or insight on manipulating the popcorn enemies in ESPgaluda? The tanks, flying pods, and fast-moving planes all seem to aim very roughly, and it's difficult to manage them, or even stream them safely.


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I'd recommend Thunder Dragon 2 too


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Does Raiden V freeze up on any of you occasionally? It happened to me right now.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Related Questions That Don't Deserve a Thread
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Is there anyone that still has a copy of STELLAVANITY 0.22? A Japanese friend of mine is wondering if anyone does...


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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Related Questions That Don't Deserve a Thread
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:21 pm 



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Does anyone have recommendations on short length games? I sometimes like to play a few short runs rather than a longer run when I have a bit of free time. I've been using score attack / caravan modes, but what something a bit longer than the 5 minute ish lengths they are. Are there any decent games that have full clear times of maybe 10-15 minutes?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:37 pm 


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Most Psikyo games have a one-loop clear time around that long. Gradius 1 is also about 15 minutes per loop. Fairy Wars is about that long too, unless you're milking for score (which about doubles the length). Same with all Touhou extra stages. Armed Police Batrider's Normal Course is also pretty short but can be extended through milking. Battle Bakraid's Normal Course is about the same length as Batrider's but without the milking.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:47 pm 


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Are there any decent games that have full clear times of maybe 10-15 minutes?


A 1-ALL of Storm Blade will cost you about 11 to 11.5 minutes, so that might fit your requirement.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:51 pm 



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Thanks for the suggestions! I tried some Psikyo games when I was first getting into shooters, and couldn't really find one that I liked. I didn't hate them, just no love. Sounds like now is a good time to try some again, now that I have a little more experience.

Storm blade looks interesting as well, enough to give it a chance. Thanks!


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 2:14 pm 


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Do any of guys know how to disable MAME's ability to cancel conflicting inputs (i.e. make it so MAME doesn't cancel out inputs when both the left and right arrow keys are held down)? I'm asking because a certain legal DP trick is done by using both left and right inputs simultaneously.
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Asked in MAME IRC and someone found an option for it: -joystick_contradictoryenable
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Related Questions That Don't Deserve a Thread
PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:32 am 


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I changed the 0 in the line "joystick_contradictory 0" to a 1 and it works perfectly. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 10:24 am 


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I have 568 yen on my ntsc-j PSN. Anyone have any suggestions on something worth grabbing for around that price? PS4 or PS3 is all good.


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I have 568 yen on my ntsc-j PSN. Anyone have any suggestions on something worth grabbing for around that price? PS4 or PS3 is all good.

Was going to suggest Harmful Park or Einhander, but I checked and they're both 617 yen :/


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I`m trying to play Ikaruga on a modded PAL Wii via Nintendont. The console is connected to a PAL CRT TV via SCART RGB cable. Everything is fine apart from the fact that enemies and my ship move with certain regular stutter, as if missing a frame.

It`s a PAL version (NTSC results in "red tint" flaw which goes with the whole RGB - NTSC thing) and I tried different settings, like forcing PAL50 and PAL60 in Nintendont`s options - to no avail.

Was wondering if anybody encountered this problem before and/or can think of a possible solution.


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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 7:24 am 


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Why is the Stage 1 boss harder when selecting it in practice, than it is in a full run (or even a full stage run in practice)? Does this happen with every boss? Is there any way to fix this, or can I only practice bosses by playing through the stage first?


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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 9:26 am 


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guys

u played Nier Automata ? if yes..the begening was amazing Shmup level
is there any great shumps games similar?

and i hope u guys list me some awesome great shmups (cyborg/wierd/giant bosses)
but plz NOT jamestown or similar..hate that


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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 9:33 am 


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kaicooper wrote:
guys

u played Nier Automata ? if yes..the begening was amazing Shmup level
is there any great shumps games similar?

and i hope u guys list me some awesome great shmups (cyborg/wierd/giant bosses)
but plz NOT jamestown or similar..hate that


Sin & Punishment 2 is rail shooter, lots of giant bosses, feels much more shmuppy than Nier.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 2:41 pm 


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^^ no i mean just similar to first Nier Level..shmup level..not the whole game
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