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 Post subject: Should I get a J360: 2012 edition
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:16 am 


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Currently I have the money for JPN 360, but is it worth it?

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 Post subject: Re: Dodonpachi Saidaioujou
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:21 am 



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There's less and less reason to own a J-360 practically every month, with so many games having been given localizations and region-free releases. Might not be worth it.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:42 am 


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If you already have a US 360 it's probably not worth it at this point. IIRC J360 exclusives are down to Ketsui and DOJBLEX at this point. Both fine games, but...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:43 am 


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J360 is the best gaming decision I ever made.
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 Post subject: Re: Dodonpachi Saidaioujou
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:45 am 


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It's very much worth it if you only play shmups. It's worth noting the leaderboards for the localized versions of DS and DFK are pretty bad compared to the Japenese ones.


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I think it's worth it for DDP-DFK BL Arrange alone.
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 Post subject: Re: Dodonpachi Saidaioujou
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It's very much worth it if you only play shmups. It's worth noting the leaderboards for the localized versions of DS and DFK are pretty bad compared to the Japenese ones.
Thats the main gripe i have about the pal versions. But personally i'd rather have a local console.
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 Post subject: Re: Dodonpachi Saidaioujou
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:10 am 


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Arrange modes are the only things truly exclusive to J360 anymore as far as Cave is concerned.
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 Post subject: Re: Dodonpachi Saidaioujou
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The thing i'm most interested in is daifukkatsu and all the arranges for it.
I could only get an european 360 (PAL for short?) here since I live in finland.
I mostly play shmups and sometimes other "hardcore" games (souls- games and cs). I'd say gaming is a hobby.
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 Post subject: Re: Dodonpachi Saidaioujou
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The only DFK arrange exclusive to Japan is Ketsuipachi, which people love to totally flip their shit over for whatever reason. It's definitely a really cool idea, but I just can't really take any arrange mode seriously enough to warrant that kind of a purchase.
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 Post subject: Re: Dodonpachi Saidaioujou
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:19 am 


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Cagar wrote:
The thing i'm most interested in is daifukkatsu and all the arranges for it.
I could only get an european 360 (PAL for short?) here since I live in finland.
I mostly play shmups and sometimes other "hardcore" games (souls- games and cs). I'd say gaming is a hobby.


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 Post subject: Re: Dodonpachi Saidaioujou
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Cagar wrote:
The thing i'm most interested in is daifukkatsu and all the arranges for it.
I could only get an european 360 (PAL for short?) here since I live in finland.
I mostly play shmups and sometimes other "hardcore" games (souls- games and cs). I'd say gaming is a hobby.

If your main focus is shmups you aren't going to lose much by getting a Japanese 360, because many mainstream games are either region-free or work on consoles from several regions (you can check it here).
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 Post subject: Re: Dodonpachi Saidaioujou
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:59 am 


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Alternatively, a far better compatability guide for JX360 owners can be found here :D

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29913

More and more domestic releases seem to be region locked now, which is annoying. I definitely wouldn't advise buying a JX360 now unless you really REALLY want to play Ketsupachi.
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 Post subject: Re: Dodonpachi Saidaioujou
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Alternatively, a far better compatability guide for JX360 owners can be found here :D

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29913

More and more domestic releases seem to be region locked now, which is annoying. I definitely wouldn't advise buying a JX360 now unless you really REALLY want to play Ketsupachi.

I'm not going to play any other games than shmups with the jbox anyway, ant I think there's enough of them to buy it. (consoles suck :--DDD etc.)
Also I guess you forgot to link the guide?
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There also the new port of Mushihimesama.
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If you already have a US 360 it's probably not worth it at this point. IIRC J360 exclusives are down to Ketsui and DOJBLEX at this point.

And DDP-DFK BL. And all the other non-Cave shmups that aren't region-free.


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There also the new port of Mushihimesama.


At this point I'll be more surprised if that DOESN'T get localized.
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 Post subject: Re: Should I get a J360: 2012 edition
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:32 pm 


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When I bought my PAL 360 for the PAL Deathsmiles release people were telling me I was doing it all wrong, but it has turned out pretty well. I have all three Japanese region free Cave titles and both RSG releases. Anticipating Akai Katana from RSG ^ ^


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 Post subject: Re: Should I get a J360: 2012 edition
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:04 pm 


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I'd say it's a waste of money unless you don't have a computer that can run Ketsui and DOJ in MAME correctly. Those are the only two games really worth getting a J-360 for, unless you REALLY wanna play Mamoru-kun or Shooting Love 20XX.

With Akai Katana getting localized and Mushihimesama HD MOST LIKELY getting localized or a region-free release, I just have a hard time recommending anyone getting a J-360 anymore.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:08 pm 


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The thing is if the previous localized games are any indication it's likely going to take around 2 years for Mushi HD to get localized and when it does you're gonna have to deal with a much worse in-game leaderboard. There isn't much reason to buy a PAL 360 if shmups are your main genre.


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The leaderboard argument is really worth considering. From what I've heard, the leaderboards of the localized versions are in a pretty depressing state, while the Japanese versions are filled with good replays to download.
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 Post subject: Re: Should I get a J360: 2012 edition
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Japanese 360s just aren't worth it anymore. The only above-average games you'd miss out on are DFKBL Arrange and Ketsui. Replays? Meh, most of the time the top replays end up on Youtube or nicovideo. Also, I find you're more likely to get randomly booted out of score attacks while playing Japanese versions, if GameFAQs users are to be believed.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:42 pm 


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If you live in NA or PAL land will make some difference as more shmups are localised in the NA, also I wonder if there is any difference in the number of NA / PAL games that are region free and playable on J360s / Asian 360s. Also if you want to play classic xbox games like Panzer Dragoon Orta on your 360 its worth knowing that many PAL versions dont emulate properly.
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 Post subject: Re: Should I get a J360: 2012 edition
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:06 pm 


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Those are the only two games really worth getting a J-360 for, unless you REALLY wanna play Senko no Ronde: DUO or Under Defeat HD


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The only above-average games you'd miss out on are DFKBL Arrange and Ketsui.


Only cave games are above average? :p Though admittedly, there isn't that much selection.
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 Post subject: Re: Should I get a J360: 2012 edition
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I have a j360 slim im thinking of selling. Its like new, boxed, and i have a UK power brick for it +extras. PM me for details if you or anyone is interested.


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The leaderboard argument is really worth considering. From what I've heard, the leaderboards of the localized versions are in a pretty depressing state, while the Japanese versions are filled with good replays to download.


The replay argument is sound, but really you can find plenty of good replays outside of the leaderboards for training purposes. I just don't think the cost is quite justified by it.
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 Post subject: Re: Should I get a J360: 2012 edition
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:31 pm 


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Clearing things a bit:
-I live in PAL-region
-Currently I've only got PS3 and a good computer
-If I would buy a J360, it would ONLY be for shmups. I wouldn't use it for anything else, teh mainstream games I play on my computer.
There's no reason to get a PAL360 for shmupping if I could get a japanese one with region-locked games.
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If you don't have a 360 and only want to play shooters, a J360 is an absolutely amazing investment. All that can be said, really.
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There's no reason to get a PAL360 for shmupping if I could get a japanese one with region-locked games.


Uh... How about cost?
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Did you miss the part where almost all shmups on the J360, and pretty much all CAVE releases, are either properly emulated or available in other, less expensive regions?

edit: despite some three or four people saying it in this very thread?
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